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indyaviator(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 5:08 pm Post subject: bent gear

Hello all,

 I remember seeing a picture of a jig someone made for straightening bent aluminum gear legs.   Unfortunately, I have found myself in need of such a device.  Anyone know where to find pics or plans??  



 Thanks,

Bryan Dever



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henry.voris

Joined: 02 Mar 2007
Posts: 116
Location: Pueo Field, Kula, Maui

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: bent gear

Bryan,



I can't remember who posted these... It was not me... but I had to straighten my gear too, so I picked up these photos from the list.



Good Luck!

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planecrazzzy
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: bent gear

Hey, That's my "Quick" press...



 I stopped over somebody's house on my way home with my gear leg...



I was going to use his "press".....He wasn't home.



So I Slapped this thing together....it Worked great...



and I haven't needed it again !



           Gotta Fly...

                           Mike & "Jaz" in MN



PS  It was a 12 ton jack

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indyaviator(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:19 pm Post subject: bent gear

Thanks guys!!  That's the pic I remember.



Bryan Dever



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On Dec 26, 2007 10:07 PM, planecrazzzy <planecrazzzy(at)yahoo.com  (planecrazzzy(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

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Hey, That's my "Quick" press...



 I stopped over somebody's house on my way home with my gear leg...



I was going to use his "press".....He wasn't home. 



So I Slapped this thing together....it Worked great...



and I haven't needed it again !



           Gotta Fly...

                           Mike & "Jaz" in MN



PS  It was a 12 ton jack 



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slyck(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:13 pm Post subject: bent gear

If I had two of those legs bent the same I would turn them upside  

down (rotate 180)

and use them that way.



I bent one leg on my second flight when the poorly tuned carb starved  

the engine

at 50' on short final and I had to dive it to save what I could.   

Used my neighbor's press.

-Then I saw Harbor Freight had a sale on a hydraulic pipe bender and  

bought one.

Haven't had to use it yet.

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 Bryan,



 I can't remember who posted these... It was not me... but I had to  

 straighten my gear too, so I picked up these photos from the list.



 Good Luck!



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apilot(at)surewest.net
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:56 pm Post subject: bent gear

For all of you gear leg benders (myself included), remember that 7075-T6 aluminum will not take too many bends.  They will take one or two if the bends are not severe.  Past that and who knows?  I care an extra one which is predrilled for the left gear, just in case I hit a chuck hole.  As for full stall landings, the VGs solved that problem.  Now, I do not have to learn to do it right.  Vic (Sacramento) N4201G

MKIIIX040

Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 123
Location: Millinocket, Maine

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:57 am Post subject: bent gear

Hey  Vic  (Sacramento) N4201G

 Vic ( Maine) N740VP

 How do VG's  effect your landings?

 Getting my inspection by the FAA  within 2 weeks.  eeeeeeHa!

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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:51 am Post subject: Re: bent gear

The effects of VG's make for much more forgiving landings.  The plane does not tend to quit flying and drop suddenly like before.   That combined with much more controllable slow approaches, and reduced stall makes them a huge safety advantage for Kolbs.    If I ever have an engine out on my MK-III,  approaching 10 MPH slower, and landing in a field at 30 MPH instead of 40 is a HUGE advantage.  It could make the difference between stopping or not, and not dropping hard could make the difference between flipping over on my back or not.  



With the overwhelming evidence of the benefits and large number of very positive reports about VG's on Kolbs, its hard to understand why anyone would not have them.  They are only 100 bucks, and a couple hours to install from:



www.landshorter.com

Mike Bigelow

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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:42 am Post subject: bent gear

> With the overwhelming evidence of the benefits and large number of very 

positive reports about VG's on Kolbs, its hard to understand why anyone 

would not have them.  They are only 100 bucks, and a couple hours to install 

from:

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 www.landshorter.com

 Mike Bigelow


	


Mike:



How much time did you put on your Kolb before you started flying it with 

VGs?



What kind of results did you get without and with VGs?



With all those pros, there must be a few cons.



Learn how to land your Kolb without VGs.



Get rid of the porcupine look.



Streamline maintenance by making it much easier to wash the wings.



I don't have the porcupine look and still don't like washing wings.



john h

mkIII

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apilot(at)surewest.net
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:18 am Post subject: bent gear

My VGs cost about $8.00 for alum roof flashing.  About day to fab and a day to install.  Should have spent several days locating them.  THey are easy to locate to reduce stalll speed and difficult to locate to keep from losing cruise speed.  My Classic now lands very much like the early Citabria with the 115 hp engine.  Also, similar to a  Kitfox in the grass.

slyck(at)frontiernet.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:32 am Post subject: bent gear

Gents,  regardless of the little differences we might have in our Kolbs,

let us be grateful for the choice we made to own one at all.

Any time you may be tempted by one of those $80,000 airplanes, remember

the advantages of the Kolb:

1.  no payments

2. $65000 (in my case) saved

-which (at) 4% = $2600 year free money

                          = 790 gallons of gas

                          =316 hours of fun flying

           (or XXXX gallons of beer)

3. make your own parts from old lawn chairs, duct tape

4. free annual

5. no physical

6. add your own point here

BB

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On 31, Dec 2007, at 12:39 PM, John Hauck wrote:

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 > With the overwhelming evidence of the benefits and large number  

 of very positive reports about VG's on Kolbs, its hard to  

 understand why anyone would not have them.  They are only 100  

 bucks, and a couple hours to install from:

>

> www.landshorter.com

> Mike Bigelow

 Mike:

 How much time did you put on your Kolb before you started flying it  

 with VGs?

 What kind of results did you get without and with VGs?

 With all those pros, there must be a few cons.

 Learn how to land your Kolb without VGs.

 Get rid of the porcupine look.

 Streamline maintenance by making it much easier to wash the wings.

 I don't have the porcupine look and still don't like washing wings.

 john h

 mkIII

smlplanet(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:51 pm Post subject: bent gear

I seen your comments about the VG's, could you give me some more information on them, ( how they are made and locations).

 I have a Classic 111 /912UL also which I got N numbered 2 weeks ago. I don't have that much time in it plus had done several changes and modifications to it. I had a commercial pilot and who also flies a tow plane for hand glider ( 50-100 per week end ) test fly it.  He said it handled fine and then we took it up (duel ) it see how it handled, flew GREAT and everything seemed to be in adjusted properly.

 He called a friend of mine that night and commented on how well the plane flew and handled. He has flown a lot of different types of planes but not a Kolb Mark 111 and was really surprised. Now I am looking at the VG's to help with the 900' airstrip I have at home.  



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 My VGs cost about $8.00 for alum roof flashing. About day to fab and a day to install. Should have spent several days locating them. THey are easy to locate to reduce stalll speed and difficult to locate to keep from losing cruise speed. My Classic now lands very much like the early Citabria with the 115 hp engine. Also, similar to a Kitfox in the grass.> 

 

 


	


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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:05 pm Post subject: bent gear

Ross:

  

 What kind of changes and modifications did you do  to your mkIII?

  

 john h

 MKIII

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Richard Pike

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 1671
Location: Blountville, Tennessee

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:02 pm Post subject: bent gear

Well there is one drawback - the curmudgeon factor.

For which there is apparently no solution...



Richard Pike

MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)



John Hauck wrote:

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 Mike:



 How much time did you put on your Kolb before you started flying it 

 with VGs?



 What kind of results did you get without and with VGs?



 With all those pros, there must be a few cons.

 <snip>



 john h

 mkIII

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planecrazzzy
Guest

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:58 am Post subject: Re: bent gear

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I had to "look that up"



It gave me a chuckle...



Gotta Fly...

Mike & "Jaz" in MN

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[quote="Richard Pike"]Well there is one drawback - the curmudgeon factor.

For which there is apparently no solution...



Richard Pike

MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)

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