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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:51 pm    Post subject: Europa Mandatory Mod 73 - re -use of original Pip-Pins throu Reply with quote

Fellow builders

My study of Mod 73 tells me that we are to put a 10mm piece of masking tape
on the underneath face of the TP6's to cover the hole and then two layers of
bid (1" squares) perhaps added to some dregs of dry flox used to fill the
corners of the hole in the skin, and then another two layers of bid from the
8" squares of bid that keep the TP 6 in place.

When I put a pip-pin throught the dry TP6 there appeared to be about 1.5mm
of clearance to the protruding balls.

As I am ready to lay glass, My question is please ---------

Has anyone done the Mod 73 Job and been able to still use their original pip
pins?

In other words - is it worth striving to keep cover over the TP6 as thin as
possible?
Or is it just impossible to retain use of the original pip pins?

Sincerely
JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit No 327 in Oz as I try to complete tailplanes before
filling them.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:52 am    Post subject: Europa Mandatory Mod 73 - re -use of original Pip-Pins throu Reply with quote

Hi Bob,

Going by the survey that was done when the mod first came out, most people
used longer pins.

Regards

Brian Davies Kit 454

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:14 am    Post subject: Europa Mandatory Mod 73 - re -use of original Pip-Pins throu Reply with quote

Hi! Bob G
I managed to use the original pip pins.(especially difficult in my case
since I originally put them in at an angle ) They work as proscribed but
I have screw caps which act as a secondary "keeper" also.
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Bob Harrison. G-PTAG

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:18 pm    Post subject: Europa Mandatory Mod 73 - re -use of original Pip-Pins throu Reply with quote

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> I have a 50 % success rate with 4 done now. The more glass, the longer the pin. Both XS aircraft built prototypically worked with the old pins. The Classic and a custom built moded tail plane (had a PVC threaded cover) needed longer pins. I cheat, as I have extra Classic and XS pitch tubes to allow me to glass the whole thing up on the bench.

Carr Lane supplies 2 inch long pins that work great. About $16 each.
Bud Yerly
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:32 pm    Post subject: Europa Mandatory Mod 73 - re -use of original Pip-Pins throu Reply with quote

Dear Alfred Buess

Thank you for your reply too!
I found my original job on the wing pins to be good; but as you say it was
reassuring to have another look at previous work.

Best Wishes
JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Europa Mandatory Mod 73 - re -use of original Pip-Pins throu Reply with quote

Thank you Bob Harrison

You are about the 3rd reply and they are all positive - at which I am
surprised!

- isn't this Matronics facility a marvel? I feel that I already know you
from your postings, and from Kingsley Hurst who visited you in the UK.

Best Wishes and thanks again
JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject: Europa Mandatory Mod 73 - re -use of original Pip-Pins throu Reply with quote

Dear Brian Davies

I had thought that longer pins were almost surely needed and wanted to cut
the cover to the minimum as I understand that the long pins are expensive
for something that we should not have had to do.

However it looks as if they probably will not be needed......

Thank you for your reply.

JR (Bob ) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 6:03 pm    Post subject: Europa Mandatory Mod 73 - re -use of original Pip-Pins throu Reply with quote

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

In other words - is it worth striving to keep cover over the TP6 as thin as
possible?
Or is it just impossible to retain use of the original pip pins?
Quote:
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Bob,

I was able to reuse the original pins with no problem. I followed the
directions and got lucky I guess. There's a couple pix on the Forum gallery,
but there were taken before the holes were drilled out again. They're under
the section "flying surfaces".
Troy Maynor
N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic
Left to finish:
Paint,(some) interior,engine install, (some) wiring.
Weaverville, NC USA


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