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JC

Joined: 17 Jan 2008
Posts: 3
Location: Wappingers Falls, NY

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:49 am Post subject: How much money have you spent?

I was wondering how much your project is costing you in comparison to what the Kitfox website says.



Were there certain upgrades you felt you needed?



Did instruments or a quality prop blow your budget?



Just trying to get an idea what I might be in for if I take the plunge.

darinh

Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 327
Location: Utah

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: How much money have you spent?

What does the site say you can build one for?  I couldn't find anywhere it gives a estimate...just actual kit and option costs.

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Darin Hawkes
Series 7
914 Turbo
Kaysville, Utah

JC

Joined: 17 Jan 2008
Posts: 3
Location: Wappingers Falls, NY

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: How much money have you spent?

 	  darinh wrote: 	
		  What does the site say you can build one for?  I couldn't find anywhere it gives a estimate...just actual kit and option costs. 	




Price with Firewall Back Kit, Engine Component Kit and Engine $37,683



Firewall Back Kit  $17,985



Firewall Forward Kit - Rotax 912 / 912S  $4,195



Rotax 912S (100 hp) Engine  $15,503

I'm trying to figure how much above this price will it possibly cost others.

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Tom Jones

Joined: 12 Mar 2006
Posts: 752
Location: Ellensburg, WA

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: How much money have you spent?

 	  Quote: 	
		  I was wondering how much your project is costing you in comparison to what the Kitfox website says. 	




JC, one just needs to spec out the items they want to complete the plane to know what the total is, then you can stick close to that price by not adding goodies as you go.  You will ruin parts occasionally and need to buy some incidentals you didn't think of or decide you must have.



The price I paid for add ons in 1994 was about $3500 above the advertised price of $14995 for a complete kit including engine, instruments and polyfiber materials through the polyspray coat, but that probably doesn't mean much today.

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Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA

jdmcbean(at)kitfoxaircraf
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:44 pm Post subject: How much money have you spent?

JC.. unfortunately the price on the Rotax engine has increased.. The current

912ULS pricing is $19373.00



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www.kitfoxaircraft.com

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darinh

Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 327
Location: Utah

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: How much money have you spent?

I don't think John has updated his 912s price yet.  Rotax has increased the price on all their engines...the 912s is now $19,373.

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Darin Hawkes
Series 7
914 Turbo
Kaysville, Utah

kitfox(at)itsys3.com
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:54 pm Post subject: How much money have you spent?

I purchased a Series 6 kit in 2001 for the all inclusive price of 

$39,856.  This kit included the Rotax 912S, fuselage, instruments, and 

interior.  Not included were radios, paint, tools, fees, etc.  My final 

out-of-pocket expense when the aircraft first flew in 2003 was $49,061.



A detailed expense log is available on my web site 

(www.itsys3.com/kitfox) at the following link



ftp://ftp.itsys3.com/expenselog.pdf



Bill Hammond

Parker Colorado

Guy Buchanan

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1204
Location: Ramona, CA

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:40 pm Post subject: How much money have you spent?

At 11:49 AM 1/18/2008, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  Just trying to get an idea what I might be in for if I take the plunge.


	


Hah! That one's easy too! It costs twice as much as you think it's 

going to cost. (Just call me the resident cynic.)



Actually, when I used to estimate engineering jobs I did exactly 

that. I took my best guess then doubled it and was usually pretty close.

Guy Buchanan

San Diego, CA

K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.



Do not archive

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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:24 pm Post subject: How much money have you spent?

I'll have high 50's into my Model 7/912S that's nearly finished.  Some  of the "extras" for me were as follows (rough numbers):

  

 IVO in-flight adjustible prop - $1000

 Muffler - $950

 External Alternator - $850

 Air Intake Plenum - $500

 Langing/Taxi Lights - $350

 Dash Lights w/Dimmer - $200

 Dynon D100 - $2500

 Flight Cheetah 210 GPS w/in-flight weather - $3500

 EIS Engine Analyzer - $500

 EXP DC Load Center - $450

 Nav. Radio - $800

 Intercom - $300

 Transponder - $1300

 ELT and various antenna - $400

 Paint - $1500

 Upolstery - $1000

 Full Lexan Turtle Deck - $250

 Electric Rudder Trim/Wire Harness - $350

 Avionics Wire Harness Prep at shop - $300

 Various speed fairings, elevator gap seals - $200 

 Misc. tools, paint equipment, paint booth construction, paint  fixtures, etc. - $1500 

  



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avidfox

Joined: 03 Apr 2007
Posts: 87

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:52 pm Post subject: How much money have you spent?

Cost is a relative issue

 If you feel you need to "buy" everything you need, "new", then cost will be high.

 If you can borrow things, such as covering tools, (pinking shears, paint gun, compressor, filters etc) there is less cost. You will probably only need certain speciality tools for this project.....scrounge and borrow. 

  

  Many a\c owners have used, but serviceable instruments, misc. hoses, filters, ...all sorts of parts just laying around hanger and home, and not all of these guys want to try to make a profit ....they're happy to see the stuff go into good project. It's not always about money. 

  

 Get to know a local independent GA A&P... most have a garage full of parts that are serviceable, hardware left over from jobs, all kinds of good stuff, just waiting for a home. You'd be surprised at what they collect, knowing that it will be good for something someday.(A good A&P NEVER throws ANYTHING out.) 

  

 There is a lot of "stuff" just waiting out there.... make it known what your plans are, and what you might need.

 Beg, borrow, barter.

  

 And just to put the $ where my mouth is ... I have a "small", almost brand new "Earls Performance Products" oil cooler ...free to a honest, needy home. I don't see a P\N , but the dimensions 7" long, 3" high, and 2" deep, w\ 2 brass barbed 90'  1\2" hose fittings ,. I believe it was used on 84KF by the original owner, but swapped it out for a larger on after a few flights.  

 I'll never use it, and it didn't cost me any thing...so it gets passed along to someone in need.

 That's how it work around this neck of the woods.

  

 Steve Benesh  84KF

 A&P IA

 "5" 912UL

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dave

Joined: 22 Sep 2006
Posts: 1382

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:53 am Post subject: Re: How much money have you spent?

All these figures show you why  Kitfox on the used market are such a great deal and investment. A used Kitfox is likely proven already of it's airworthiness and a turn key purchase.  Some like to  fly and some like to build . Some will never finish building and some will never fly and other will buy and fly.  They all will fly eventually --one better than the other ? doubt it.   Some will build quick and fly alot .  

To each their own but we have seen the bottom of the price range in the Kitfox market I think.  If you serious about a Kitfox better step up to the plate and get going .

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vetdrem

Joined: 20 Nov 2007
Posts: 62

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: How much money have you spent?

Steve,  I have been looking for an oil cooler, and sure could use yours.  I have a model 3 with a 912, but the builder didn't install one, and I have been concerned about it.  My oil temps haven't gone over max, but have come close.



Please give me a call at (989)387-4662



Louie

n85ae

Joined: 14 Mar 2007
Posts: 403

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:44 am Post subject: Re: How much money have you spent?

I put everything I wanted in my series 5 and spent $65K on it.



Jeff

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