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 Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:06 am Post subject: Light sport expo and Rotax school |
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I just returned from the Light sport expo (at) Sebring ,Fl.Wx was lousy but there must have been about 100 examples of new Light Sports. The field is growing ! Saw the Euro and Apollo Foxes. They have really done some nice improvements on the Kitfox (at a price of course ! )
I highly recommend Lockwoods Rotax courses. I spent 4 days tearing down a 912 and learning the function of each item and how to do the carb sync, parts replacement etc.Dean Vogel is one of the best instructors I have ever had( including my 20 years as a military pilot and 20 airline) A first class operation. As a "newbie" I now feel comfortable with this "strange" engine (vs Cont/Lyc)
Dick Maddux
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Tom Jones
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:21 am Post subject: Re: Light sport expo and Rotax school |
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| Quote: | | Saw the Euro and Apollo Foxes. They have really done some nice improvements on the Kitfox (at a price of course ! ) |
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Guy Buchanan
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:05 am Post subject: Light sport expo and Rotax school |
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At 06:02 AM 1/25/2008, you wrote:
| Quote: | Saw the Euro and Apollo Foxes. They have really done some nice
improvements on the Kitfox (at a price of course ! )
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Dick,
Can you elucidate any of these? It would be great
information for the builders.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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delta42
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:58 am Post subject: Re: Light sport expo and Rotax school |
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| Guy Buchanan wrote: | At 06:02 AM 1/25/2008, you wrote:
| Quote: | Saw the Euro and Apollo Foxes. They have really done some nice
improvements on the Kitfox (at a price of course ! )
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Dick,
Can you elucidate any of these? It would be great
information for the builders.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. |
As a Eurofox owner, here are a few things my plane has that a kitfox (may not)…I’ m not that familiar with the kitfox so please correct me I mis-speak
EF has composite gear
EF uses a composite leading edge;
EF uses a composite flaperons (well balanced)
EF has changed the wing a little (lots of research)
EF has acrylic windscreen
EF 2 piece turtle back
EF has flat gas caps
James
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dave
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:31 am Post subject: Re: Light sport expo and Rotax school |
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| Quote: | | As a Eurofox owner, here are a few things my plane has that a kitfox (may not)…I’ m not that familiar with the kitfox so please |
James what kind of performance numbers do you get in the EF ?
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:51 am Post subject: Light sport expo and Rotax school |
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http://www.tampabayaerosport.com/ApolloFox.html
On Jan 25, 2008 12:31 PM, dave <dave(at)cfisher.com (dave(at)cfisher.com)> wrote:
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James what kind of performance numbers do you get in the EF ?
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delta42
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:20 am Post subject: Re: Light sport expo and Rotax school |
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I have found that AeroPro and Rob (the distributor) are very conservative with their numbers.
The Eurofox is the 1st plane I have ever flow that performed better then book value. For me, I constantly see 1350 fpm solo (75lbs fuel) and 1000fpm duel on climb out.
Actually, I have a problem right now because when I fly solo with temps in the 40-50’s (DA=1500’), I have a hard time keeping the plane out of the yellow arc and my engine (rotax912uls) above the recommended 5000 rpm. I constantly fly around at 125 mph at 5000 rpm. If I encounter turbulence, I have to pull the rpms to 4750 or below.
Mine stalls around 38mph indicated (really a mush more then anything). There web site says t/o is 260’----if solo, hold full aft stick, apply full power, calm wind, make sure you nose over asap when airborne, ------that number is VERY conservative.
I think the 1232 gross weight thing is more a product of the European micro light then anything else.
If anybody has a specific question about the EF, let me know. I consider us cousins I guess.
James
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delta42
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: Light sport expo and Rotax school |
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Update---I went flying today and I was getting only 1000fpm solo. Outside temp was 33 and 2/3 tank fuel.
James
| delta42 wrote: | I have found that AeroPro and Rob (the distributor) are very conservative with their numbers.
The Eurofox is the 1st plane I have ever flow that performed better then book value. For me, I constantly see 1350 fpm solo (75lbs fuel) and 1000fpm duel on climb out.
Actually, I have a problem right now because when I fly solo with temps in the 40-50’s (DA=1500’), I have a hard time keeping the plane out of the yellow arc and my engine (rotax912uls) above the recommended 5000 rpm. I constantly fly around at 125 mph at 5000 rpm. If I encounter turbulence, I have to pull the rpms to 4750 or below.
Mine stalls around 38mph indicated (really a mush more then anything). There web site says t/o is 260’----if solo, hold full aft stick, apply full power, calm wind, make sure you nose over asap when airborne, ------that number is VERY conservative.
I think the 1232 gross weight thing is more a product of the European micro light then anything else.
If anybody has a specific question about the EF, let me know. I consider us cousins I guess.
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