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ebonsell(at)earthlink.net
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:22 am Post subject: Cable thimbles

Hi All,



I'm making a new set of rudder cables. To those of you that made cables did 

you leave the ears on the thimbles, or did you cut or grind them off?



Thanks,



Ed

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Richard Pike

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:53 am Post subject: Cable thimbles

Cut them off, dress them smooth with a small round file where the cable 

passes over the cut.



Richard Pike

MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)



Edward Bonsell wrote:

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 Hi All,



 I'm making a new set of rudder cables. To those of you that made 

 cables did you leave the ears on the thimbles, or did you cut or grind 

 them off?



 Thanks,



 Ed

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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:45 am Post subject: Cable thimbles

Ed, I use my Felco F-9 cable cutters to trim the ears. I cut from the inside of the thimble out and there is no burr left to dress where the cable touches. 

If you haven't made cables before, go to AC 43.13-1B "Aircraft Inspection, Repair and Alteration Acceptable Methods, Techniques, and Practices" pages 7-32 and 7-33 for instruction on how to use Nicopress ovals. Use the proper tool and inspect each swage with the proper gauge.

 

Rick Girard



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Cut them off, dress them smooth with a small round file where the cable

passes over the cut.

 

Richard Pike

MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)



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[quote] Hi All,



 I'm making a new set of rudder cables. To those of you that made

 cables did you leave the ears on the thimbles, or did you cut or grind

 them off?



 Thanks,

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:09 pm Post subject: Cable thimbles

Richard Girard wrote:  	  Quote: 	
		  Ed, I use my Felco F-9 cable cutters to trim the ears. I cut from the inside of the thimble out and there is no burr left to dress where the cable touches. 

 If you haven't made cables before, go to AC 43.13-1B "Aircraft Inspection, Repair and Alteration Acceptable Methods, Techniques, and Practices" pages 7-32 and 7-33 for instruction on how to use Nicopress ovals. Use the proper tool and inspect each swage with the proper gauge.

 Rick Girard

   On Jan 28, 2008 7:51 AM, Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org (richard(at)bcchapel.org)> wrote:

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 Cut them off, dress them smooth with a small round file where the cable

 passes over the cut.

 Richard Pike

 MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)

 Edward Bonsell wrote:

 > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Bonsell"

 > <ebonsell(at)earthlink.net (ebonsell(at)earthlink.net)>

 >

 > Hi All,

 >

 > I'm making a new set of rudder cables. To those of you that made

 > cables did you leave the ears on the thimbles, or did you cut or grind

 > them off?

 >

 > Thanks,

 Guy's,

 Why are you cutting off the ears on your thimbles when making cables?  Am I missing something here?  I didn't have any problem making up my cables with the ears of the thimbles intact.  Is there some mechanical advantage to removing them and if so, why do they make them with the ears in the first place?  I found that they keep the nicopress sleeve at the proper distance from the loop to prevent pinching.  Willing to learn!!

 Terry -  Firefly #95  785 hr.'s

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lucien

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: Cable thimbles

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 Why are you cutting off the ears on your thimbles when making cables?  Am I missing something here?  I didn't have any problem making up my cables with the ears of the thimbles intact.  Is there some mechanical advantage to removing them and if so, why do they make them with the ears in the first place?  I found that they keep the nicopress sleeve at the proper distance from the loop to prevent pinching.  Willing to learn!!

 

 Terry -  Firefly #95  785 hr.'s

	




AC 43.13 says you can trim the ears if needed and I always do - I've found the thimble can be held in place more firmly this way and the cable is in firmer contact with the thimble ends where they go into the swage.



I made some fairly ok loops with untrimmed ends, but they always were a little loosey-goosey compared to trimmed ones...... and I'm ultra-paranoid about thimbles popping out of cable ends especially on control cables... had it happen, so.....



LS

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject: Cable thimbles

The ears on a cable thimble are a vestige of the days of the five tuck splice. I find that leaving the ears on always makes the loop about the thimble loose. Cutting off the ears pulls the thimble ends together when the Nico sleeve is swaged. Try both methods and use the one that you like. Either is acceptable.

Rick

On Jan 31, 2008 6:02 PM, TK <tkrolfe(at)toast.net (tkrolfe(at)toast.net)> wrote:

[quote]            Richard Girard wrote:  	  Quote: 	
		  Ed, I use my Felco F-9 cable cutters to trim the ears. I cut from the inside of the thimble out and there is no burr left to dress where the cable touches. 

 If you haven't made cables before, go to AC 43.13-1B "Aircraft Inspection, Repair and Alteration Acceptable Methods, Techniques, and Practices" pages 7-32 and 7-33 for instruction on how to use Nicopress ovals. Use the proper tool and inspect each swage with the proper gauge.

 Rick Girard

   On Jan 28, 2008 7:51 AM, Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org (richard(at)bcchapel.org)> wrote:

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 Cut them off, dress them smooth with a small round file where the cable

 passes over the cut.

 Richard Pike

 MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)

 Edward Bonsell wrote:

 > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Bonsell"

 > <ebonsell(at)earthlink.net (ebonsell(at)earthlink.net)>

 >

 > Hi All,

 >

 > I'm making a new set of rudder cables. To those of you that made

 > cables did you leave the ears on the thimbles, or did you cut or grind

 > them off?

 >

 > Thanks,

 Guy's,

 Why are you cutting off the ears on your thimbles when making cables?  Am I missing something here?  I didn't have any problem making up my cables with the ears of the thimbles intact.  Is there some mechanical advantage to removing them and if so, why do they make them with the ears in the first place?  I found that they keep the nicopress sleeve at the proper distance from the loop to prevent pinching.  Willing to learn!!

 Terry -  Firefly #95  785 hr.'s

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Dana

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject: Cable thimbles

At 07:58 PM 1/31/2008, Richard Girard wrote:

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		  The ears on a cable thimble are a vestige of the days of the five tuck 

splice. I find that leaving the ears on always makes the loop about the 

thimble loose...


	


Or you could just do five tuck splices instead of nico's on all your 

cables... 



-Dana



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jindoguy(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject: Cable thimbles

That would be the blood donor method, thanks, but no. 



Rick



On Jan 31, 2008 7:19 PM, Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net (d-m-hague(at)comcast.net)> wrote:

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At 07:58 PM 1/31/2008, Richard Girard wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  The ears on a cable thimble are a vestige of the days of the five tuck

 >splice. I find that leaving the ears on always makes the loop about the
	




 	  Quote: 	
		  thimble loose...


	


Or you could just do five tuck splices instead of nico's on all your

cables... 



-Dana



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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:38 am Post subject: Cable thimbles

Rick Dip the strand ends on solder before you start to splice. Less colorful but more comfortable.

On Jan 31, 2008, at 10:05 PM, Richard Girard wrote:

[quote]That would be the blood donor method, thanks, but no. 



Rick



On Jan 31, 2008 7:19 PM, Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net (d-m-hague(at)comcast.net)> wrote:

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At 07:58 PM 1/31/2008, Richard Girard wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  The ears on a cable thimble are a vestige of the days of the five tuck

 >splice. I find that leaving the ears on always makes the loop about the
	




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		  thimble loose...


	


Or you could just do five tuck splices instead of nico's on all your

cables... 



-Dana



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