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pequeajim
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 Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 5:55 am Post subject: Silly Question |
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Here’s a silly question that is probably very simple to answer for all you Lightning owners who are flying your aircraft. I however have never owned and flown an airplane, let alone a composite one.
So, the question may seem silly to you, but informative to me…
Before departing for a flight, and after coming home, to get your Lightning out of, and back in to your hangar, you most likely manually move it out in the open taxiway. When flying a Cessna, I always used a tow bar and was told to NEVER pull the aircraft around by the prop, or the tail. This was to reduce stress and wear on those areas.
With the Lightning, how do you safely move your airplane around? I’ve seen people sie on the tail, and back up. Is there any concern of introducing long term stress in this area?
I know… More than one silly question….
Jim!
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pequeajim
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:08 am Post subject: Silly Question |
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Let me clarify the first part of my statement…. I have never owned “my own” airplane, let alone a composite one.
See, I told you this was silly…
(grin)
From: owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Langley
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 8:51 AM
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Silly Question
Here’s a silly question that is probably very simple to answer for all you Lightning owners who are flying your aircraft. I however have never owned and flown an airplane, let alone a composite one.
So, the question may seem silly to you, but informative to me…
Before departing for a flight, and after coming home, to get your Lightning out of, and back in to your hangar, you most likely manually move it out in the open taxiway. When flying a Cessna, I always used a tow bar and was told to NEVER pull the aircraft around by the prop, or the tail. This was to reduce stress and wear on those areas.
With the Lightning, how do you safely move your airplane around? I’ve seen people sie on the tail, and back up. Is there any concern of introducing long term stress in this area?
I know… More than one silly question….
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lbmathias(at)verizon.net
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:35 am Post subject: Silly Question |
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[quote] Jim,
As you know, there is no way to attach a tow bar to the Lightning nose gear; pulling it out of the hangar is done by pulling on the prop as close to the hub as possible. It doesn't take much force as it rolls easily on flat surfaces.
Moving it backwards is a bit more challenging because of the swiveling nose wheel. The proper way is to push down on the tail just enough to get the nose wheel off the ground and then pull it backwards. The structure is very strong and if you put your hands close to the fuselage you will be exerting the force where it is strongest. Being rather lightweight myself, I use a canvas bag of shot which weighs 16 lbs and place it across the top of the fuselage just forward of the vertical stab to help me get the tail down.
People who don't have tow bars handy when moving a Cessna backwards have been using the tail push method for years with no adverse effects if they push at the right spots.
Linda
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pequeajim
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:49 am Post subject: Silly Question |
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Thanks Linda. I’ve seen the tail push, and the modified “butt on tail” methods. They both seem to work well. I’m tall enough to use either.
Jim!
From: owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of JOSEPH MATHIAS LINDA MATHIAS
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 10:30 AM
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Subject: Re: Silly Question
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Jim,
As you know, there is no way to attach a tow bar to the Lightning nose gear; pulling it out of the hangar is done by pulling on the prop as close to the hub as possible. It doesn't take much force as it rolls easily on flat surfaces.
Moving it backwards is a bit more challenging because of the swiveling nose wheel. The proper way is to push down on the tail just enough to get the nose wheel off the ground and then pull it backwards. The structure is very strong and if you put your hands close to the fuselage you will be exerting the force where it is strongest. Being rather lightweight myself, I use a canvas bag of shot which weighs 16 lbs and place it across the top of the fuselage just forward of the vertical stab to help me get the tail down.
People who don't have tow bars handy when moving a Cessna backwards have been using the tail push method for years with no adverse effects if they push at the right spots.
Linda
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Kayberg(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:50 am Post subject: Silly Question |
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Actually it would not be hard to make a tow bar attach in the same way as the nose wheel of an RV 6,7 A
Just tap the aluminum sides of the nosegear for a bolt that has an extended head. The tow bar for an Cessna 150 can be modified to fit it. through holes in the wheel pant.
but I dont think anyone has bothered. It is just not that hard to move.
Doug Koenigsberg
In a message dated 2/3/2008 10:37:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, lbmathias(at)verizon.net writes:
| Quote: | Jim,
As you know, there is no way to attach a tow bar to the Lightning nose gear; pulling it out of the hangar is done by pulling on the prop as close to the hub as possible. It doesn't take much force as it rolls easily on flat surfaces.
Moving it backwards is a bit more challenging because of the swiveling nose wheel. The proper way is to push down on the tail just enough to get the nose wheel off the ground and then pull it backwards. The structure is very strong and if you put your hands close to the fuselage you will be exerting the force where it is strongest. Being rather lightweight myself, I use a canvas bag of shot which weighs 16 lbs and place it across the top of the fuselage just forward of the vertical stab to help me get the tail down.
People who don't have tow bars handy when moving a Cessna backwards have been using the tail push method for years with no adverse effects if they push at the right spots.
Linda
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