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cookwithgas

Joined: 06 Nov 2007
Posts: 159

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:42 pm Post subject: N5SL - another flight video

Guys:



I posted this to the Corvair list already so apologies for those that have to see it twice.  



It is toe-freezing cold up here in Nebraska today.  This morning my test pilot brought along his youngest son to the airport for our Saturday-fly-off session for N5SL.  I shot some video of Ron taking off and landing.  His son was pretty excited about seeing it all. 



Enjoy:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bJ34SSATJ8



or



http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/February_2nd_Flight.wmv



Scott (It's cold up here) Laughlin

www.cooknwithgas.com

amyvega2005(at)earthlink.
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject: N5SL - another flight video

cool video. nice landings.  all the hard work really paid off.



Juan



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DaveG601XL

Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 351
Location: Cincinnati, Oh

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:03 am Post subject: Re: N5SL - another flight video

Any comments on how effective the cabin heat is working?



Thanks for sharing,

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Cincinnati, OH area

cookwithgas

Joined: 06 Nov 2007
Posts: 159

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:40 am Post subject: Re: N5SL - another flight video

Dave:



The cabin heat is working 100% as designed.  Since I didn't install any cabin heat, Ron is has freezing toes while flying.  I did my best to seal up the firewall but I still have the slits for nose-wheel steering contributing to the cold.  Ron bundles up pretty good and he loves to fly so the toe-freezing is just part of it.  



I'm working on an idea or two to add cabin-heat and will post results when I try them out.  



One big change I'm making is the pitch of the horiz. Stabilizer. It was difficult to determine level since there is not a flat surface on the horizontal stabilizer so mine must have been installed a little front high.  I have lowered the front bracket attach points and that helped.  Now I have the rear attach brackets re-made with some lift in the back so the stabilizer will be tilted a bit further than it is now.  This should allow hands-off approach with full flaps and also little to no trim in level flight.  That is the goal anyway.  



Thanks,



Scott Laughlin

Omaha, Nebraska

601XL/Corvair

Finished & Flying

www.cooknwithgas.com

japhillipsga(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:08 am Post subject: N5SL - another flight video

Scott, why aren't you flying? Hope to see you at SnF, Bill

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cookwithgas

Joined: 06 Nov 2007
Posts: 159

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:41 am Post subject: Re: N5SL - another flight video

Bill:



I have a few more hours of flight training before getting my sport pilot ticket.  Four to be exact.  I passed the written test and built an airplane, now I just need to be legal in the airplane for a CFI to finish my lessons.  23 hours more to go for phase I - The plan is to finish them off in February, then finish lessons and do my check ride in March. 



Guess how hard it will be to schedule my airplane for a lesson compared to one of those $#%!(at)#$$ rentals.  Oh, and did I mention I get to pick my CFI instead of getting whatever loser commercial pilot wannabe that is in line for the next lesson to build his hours at my expense?  I had two of those start training me only to let me know they would be leaving me to work on their "twin-engine" hours toward the demise some other poor guys checking account balance.  After the second one I decided to wait for my airplane.    



The above paragraph is my experience only and may not reflect the character of all commercial pilot wannabe losers.  

Scott Laughlin

www.cooknwithgas.com

rsteele(at)rjsit.com
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:07 pm Post subject: N5SL - another flight video

Scot, this is really sad.  I'm also working on my SP certificate, at a

school that specializes in SP.  At the school I go to, most of the

instructors and most of the students have gray hair, or none, and the

instructors are mostly folks that have retired from one form or another

of professional flying.  It's a nice group of experienced instructors

who do it for a little extra money, but mainly so they can keep flying. 

The bad bit is that it's a two hour drive each way to get there, but

worth the trouble in my opinion. If anyone is interested I'll recommend

the place:  Chesapeake Sport Pilot at Bay Bridge Airport, Stevensville,

MD.  They currently have 4 planes, and are adding 2 more, all used

almost exclusively for SP.



I sure hope you have better luck with your next instructor,

Ron

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Ron Lendon

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 685
Location: Clinton Twp., MI

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: N5SL - another flight video

Now that makes sense Scott.  I was gonna ask that same question.



I had one of those as my first instructor, I was getting ready to fire him when he told me he had a job out of state.  The next two or three instructors had gray hair. Having several different instructors has made me a better pilot.



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John75142

Joined: 05 Dec 2007
Posts: 56
Location: Kaufman, TX

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:05 pm Post subject: N5SL - another flight video

While you guys are on the subject of instruction.



I'm currently scratch building a 701 and do not have a ticket of any 

kind(had a glider cert a long time ago). My question is after completion is 

there a way to train in my own plane. How can I work off the 25-40 hrs 

flight time without a cert. My 1st thought was a loose interpretation of the 

regs that stated no one else unless essential to the flight. Since I would 

have to have a CFI to do the training he would be essential. But have since 

learned this is not possible. It seems the only way around it is to have 

some one fly off the 40 then start training.



Are there any other suggestions and is there anyone in the DFW area that 

would consider working with me in this venture i.e. flying the hours.

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John Short

victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:40 pm Post subject: N5SL - another flight video

I'd be glad to fly off the hours for you but I'm not near there. I know 

a guy in San Antonio who might do it for you but you would have to bring 

the airplane there for a couple of weekends. If this would be acceptable 

to you I'll contact the guy and see if he's interested. e-mail me 

offline if you want.



Bill



John Short wrote:

[quote] 

 <creativesigns(at)embarqmail.com>



 While you guys are on the subject of instruction.



 I'm currently scratch building a 701 and do not have a ticket of any 

 kind(had a glider cert a long time ago). My question is after 

 completion is there a way to train in my own plane. How can I work off 

 the 25-40 hrs flight time without a cert. My 1st thought was a loose 

 interpretation of the regs that stated no one else unless essential to 

 the flight. Since I would have to have a CFI to do the training he 

 would be essential. But have since learned this is not possible. It 

 seems the only way around it is to have some one fly off the 40 then 

 start training.



 Are there any other suggestions and is there anyone in the DFW area 

 that would consider working with me in this venture i.e. flying the 

 hours.

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skyguynca

Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 128

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:52 pm Post subject: N5SL - another flight video

As I was told by the local Faa office is that you can train in your own 

experimental and LSA.



David Mikesell

230 Theresa Drive, #6

Cloverdale, CA 95425

209-224-4485

skyguynca(at)skyguynca.com

www.skyguynca.com

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cookwithgas

Joined: 06 Nov 2007
Posts: 159

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: N5SL - another flight video

John:



Are you an EAA member?  If so, make sure you attend your local EAA chapter meetings.  I'm willing to bet there are several guys who would love to fly your 40 hours for you.  I am very fortunate to have a great EAA chapter (EAA Chapter 80) where there are plenty of guys willing to fly off my hours.  I'm even luckier to have Ron Gawer put so much effort into the testing process.  



I don't know how far you are in the building process but the closer you get to the finish line, the interest level will grow.  A lot of people start building airplanes and don't get very far.  Most of the EAA members know this and many have projects they started years ago and didn't get very far.  Stick with it and earn some credibility and you will have more help than you can use.  The FAA inspection process was the most difficult for me since I didn't know what to expect.  The EAA chapter guys were a god-send when it came time to get everything together and dot my i's and cross my t's.  



Make sure you follow the rules and don't allow two people in the airplane until you have completed your phase I testing and completed the documentation. You can train in your own aircraft.  It will be a great experience.  



Keep building,



Scott Laughlin

airplane builder loser

finished & flying

www.cooknwithgas.com

Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:55 pm Post subject: Re: N5SL - another flight video

John we just had this thread. No you can't get away with that loose interpretation unless your instructor is a moron and doesn't mind having his certificates pulled.



As Scott said join your local EAA chapter. I'm sure you can find someone or many someones that would be willing to help you fly off the hours.

 	  John75142 wrote: 	
		  While you guys are on the subject of instruction.



I'm currently scratch building a 701 and do not have a ticket of any 

kind(had a glider cert a long time ago). My question is after completion is 

there a way to train in my own plane. How can I work off the 25-40 hrs 

flight time without a cert. My 1st thought was a loose interpretation of the 

regs that stated no one else unless essential to the flight. Since I would 

have to have a CFI to do the training he would be essential. But have since 

learned this is not possible. It seems the only way around it is to have 

some one fly off the 40 then start training.



Are there any other suggestions and is there anyone in the DFW area that 

would consider working with me in this venture i.e. flying the hours.

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bryanmmartin

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1018

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:04 pm Post subject: N5SL - another flight video

As I understand it, when flying an experimental aircraft, you don't  

actually need to be rated for that category of aircraft unless you are  

carrying passengers. For instance, a pilot with an airplane rating can  

fly his experimental gyroplane legally without a gyroplane rating on  

his certificate. The FAA will only require the gyroplane rating if you  

are carrying passengers. So if you had a private pilot glider rating  

in the past, that certificate never expires. You just need to get  

current in gliders again and get a BFR and then you might be legal to  

fly off the phase I time on your airplane. I may be completely wrong  

on this point, so don't take my word on it, and I certainly wouldn't  

recommend that a very low time pilot perform the first test flights on  

a newly built airplane.



Realistically, you should hire someone to fly at least the first few  

hours on your airplane to make sure that there are no critical  

problems with it. At that point, you may be able to get enough  

training hours to get signed off to solo in a similar aircraft on your  

light sport student certificate. Then you should definitely be legal  

to fly off the rest of your phase I hours as long as you keep the solo  

endorsement current. As I recall from my private pilot training, a  

solo endorsement is good for 90 days then you need a new endorsement.

On Feb 4, 2008, at 4:01 PM, John Short wrote:



[quote] 

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 While you guys are on the subject of instruction.



 I'm currently scratch building a 701 and do not have a ticket of any  

 kind(had a glider cert a long time ago). My question is after  

 completion is there a way to train in my own plane. How can I work  

 off the 25-40 hrs flight time without a cert. My 1st thought was a  

 loose interpretation of the regs that stated no one else unless  

 essential to the flight. Since I would have to have a CFI to do the  

 training he would be essential. But have since learned this is not  

 possible. It seems the only way around it is to have some one fly  

 off the 40 then start training.



 Are there any other suggestions and is there anyone in the DFW area  

 that would consider working with me in this venture i.e. flying the  

 hours.

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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject: N5SL - another flight video

Scott, 

 How does it work with your insurance company? Are you listed as a pilot?  Was it hard to secure insurance?

  

 Bob Spudis

  

  

  

  

  

 In a message dated 2/4/2008 5:18:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  cookwithgas(at)HOTMAIL.COM writes:

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		  -->    Zenith-List message posted by: "cookwithgas"    <cookwithgas(at)hotmail.com>



John:



Are you an EAA    member?  If so, make sure you attend your local EAA chapter    meetings.  I'm willing to bet there are several guys who would love to    fly your 40 hours for you.  I am very fortunate to have a great EAA    chapter (EAA Chapter 80) where there are plenty of guys willing to fly off my    hours.  I'm even luckier to have Ron Gawer put so much effort into the    testing process.  



I don't know how far you are in the building    process but the closer you get to the finish line, the interest level will    grow.  A lot of people start building airplanes and don't get very    far.  Most of the EAA members know this and many have projects they    started years ago and didn't get very far.  Stick with it and earn some    credibility and you will have more help than you can use.  The FAA    inspection process was the most difficult for me since I didn't know what to    expect.  The EAA chapter guys were a god-send when it came time to get    everything together and dot my i's and cross my t's.  



Make sure    you follow the rules and don't allow two people in the airplane until you have    completed your phase I testing and completed the documentation. You can train    in your own aircraft.  It will be a great experience.  



Keep    building,



Scott Laughlin

airplane builder loser

finished &    flying

www.cooknwithgas.com





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cookwithgas

Joined: 06 Nov 2007
Posts: 159

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:58 pm Post subject: Re: N5SL - another flight video

Bob if you need a contact or phone numbers let me know off line and I'll give you some information on insurance agents I contacted.

japhillipsga(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:00 am Post subject: N5SL - another flight video

Scott, well you know you can get some hours with me in my XL until you have worked the 40 off yours. Just let me know. Bill 

 

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