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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: MK3 parts Reply with quote

I'm looking for some parts to put together a MK3. Here are a few questions
if anyone can guide me.

1. Is there any place other (cheaper) than Kolb to get a fuselage tube?
2.Has anyone done a major repair on a cage and have any info or sugestions.
Or should I build one from scratch? Anyone have any info on tubing diameters
and thicknesses
3. I believe there have been some gear leg options other than the 7075 stock
ones. Tell me if you can.
4.Are there some places better than others for obtaining Polyfiber products
ie. fabric, paint etc.

I built a FS2 in 95 and put 440 hours on it. Last June I flew my scratch
built Zenith 601 but I miss being able to look straight down so gotta build!

I appreciate any help you can give me 'on list' or private
agustafson(at)chartermi.net

Aaron Gustafson Iron Mountain Michigan


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:04 pm    Post subject: MK3 parts Reply with quote

Aaron, I've looked for the 6" diameter tube used on the Mk.3 without success. I had to buy a 5" tube for another pod and boom airplane in 2006. Got it from Wick's, it was $400(!!!), and I stopped and picked it up as I was coming back from a trip so there was no packing or shipping. 5" was also the biggest size Wick's carried. Just checked their 2008 catalog and 5" is still $32.84 a foot and it's still the largest they carry.

Rick

On Feb 4, 2008 7:40 PM, Aaron Gustafson <agustafson(at)chartermi.net (agustafson(at)chartermi.net)> wrote:
[quote] --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Gustafson" <agustafson(at)chartermi.net (agustafson(at)chartermi.net)>

I'm looking for some parts to put together a MK3. Here are a few questions
if anyone can guide me.

1. Is there any place other (cheaper) than Kolb to get a fuselage tube?
2.Has anyone done a major repair on a cage and have any info or sugestions.
Or should I build one from scratch? Anyone have any info on tubing diameters
and thicknesses
3. I believe there have been some gear leg options other than the 7075 stock
ones. Tell me if you can.
4.Are there some places better than others for obtaining Polyfiber products
ie. fabric, paint etc.

I built a FS2 in 95 and put 440 hours on it. Last June I flew my scratch
built Zenith 601 but I miss being able to look straight down so gotta build!

I appreciate any help you can give me 'on list' or private
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:24 pm    Post subject: MK3 parts Reply with quote

Hey Guys:

Check with Travis at Kolb.

5 and 6 inch tubes in prime condition are very difficult to obtain by TNK. Most of it get dinged during rough handling and shipping. Once they were close to shutting down because the quality of the tubing was not good enough for building airplanes. The tubing is used primarily for irrigation pipe. It is tough and last a long time for the farmer.

Some of their 5 and 6 inch tubing is not of cosmetic and commercial quality for kitting, but satisfactory quality for Kolb aircraft. My mkIII has three 6" blem tubes for tail boom and main spars. Seem to be working well, despite some minor dings and dimples here and there.

Maybe you can get Travis to give you a reduced price on some of this tubing. Worth a phone call.

john h
mkIII
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Aaron, I've looked for the 6" diameter tube used on the Mk.3 without success.
Rick
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:41 pm    Post subject: MK3 parts Reply with quote

try this site.

http://www.metalsdepot.com/products/alum2.phtml?page=rndtube&LimAcc=%20&aident=

Now I am not sure that its any cheaper than Kolb or that it is the right wall thinkness, it may be thicker. If you are going to weld your own H brace then it doesn't matter and you will get a stronger and a bit heavier Tube.

Ron (Arizona)

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---- Richard Girard <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> wrote:

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Aaron, I've looked for the 6" diameter tube used on the Mk.3 without
success. I had to buy a 5" tube for another pod and boom airplane in 2006.
Got it from Wick's, it was $400(!!!), and I stopped and picked it up as I
was coming back from a trip so there was no packing or shipping. 5" was also
the biggest size Wick's carried. Just checked their 2008 catalog and 5" is
still $32.84 a foot and it's still the largest they carry.

Rick

On Feb 4, 2008 7:40 PM, Aaron Gustafson <agustafson(at)chartermi.net> wrote:

Quote:

agustafson(at)chartermi.net>

I'm looking for some parts to put together a MK3. Here are a few questions
if anyone can guide me.

1. Is there any place other (cheaper) than Kolb to get a fuselage tube?
2.Has anyone done a major repair on a cage and have any info or
sugestions.
Or should I build one from scratch? Anyone have any info on tubing
diameters
and thicknesses
3. I believe there have been some gear leg options other than the 7075
stock
ones. Tell me if you can.
4.Are there some places better than others for obtaining Polyfiber
products
ie. fabric, paint etc.

I built a FS2 in 95 and put 440 hours on it. Last June I flew my scratch
built Zenith 601 but I miss being able to look straight down so gotta
build!

I appreciate any help you can give me 'on list' or private
agustafson(at)chartermi.net

Aaron Gustafson Iron Mountain Michigan

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:47 am    Post subject: MK3 parts Reply with quote

Ron wrote:
Quote:
try this site.

http://www.metalsdepot.com/products/alum2.phtml?page=rndtube&LimAcc=%20&aident=

Now I am not sure that its any cheaper than Kolb or that it is the right
wall thinkness, it may be thicker. If you are going to weld your own H
brace then it doesn't matter and you will get a stronger and a bit heavier
Tube.

Ron (Arizona)

Ron others,
The 6 inch tubing on that web sight has a wall thickness twice as thick as
the tubing on my Mk-3, (1/8 ") not only would the H sections not fit inside,
but the weight differance would be pretty substantial.
I have to think using that as a tail tube would move your CG pretty far aft.
I would stick with what Homer came up with.

Denny Rowe


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:17 am    Post subject: MK3 parts Reply with quote

> Now I am not sure that its any cheaper than Kolb or that it is the right
wall thinkness, it may be thicker.
Quote:

Ron (Arizona)

Ron:

Can do much better with Travis, plus receive the correct size.

Looks like the thinnest wall is .125 which is twice the that of the Kolb
tail boom.

john h
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:04 am    Post subject: MK3 parts Reply with quote

Thanks to all who replied. I found that indeed the best deal and the proper
stuff is directly from Travis at Kolb. I will go there.

Thanks again!

Still looking for a cage , Damaged etc. Or a complete aircraft, wrecked or
what ever and cheap. Maybe one that's in someone's way!

Aaron G.


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