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isaligman(at)saligman.com
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 Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:10 am Post subject: Spades |
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Is anyone familiar with putting spades on a Yak 50?
Ira Saligman
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jan.mevis(at)informavia.b
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:52 am Post subject: Spades |
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If you mean the original Russian spades on the outer end of the ailerons, yes. The difference when doing aerobatics is quite apparent. Although I still need both hands for rolling. It won’ make you roll faster, of course, only easier....
But most of my collegue Yakista’s consider it a very ugly modification.
Jan Mevis
Yak 50 RA2005K
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ira Saligman
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Subject: Spades
Is anyone familiar with putting spades on a Yak 50?
Ira Saligman
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isaligman(at)Saligman.com (isaligman(at)Saligman.com)
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viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:30 am Post subject: Spades |
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Ira,
If I am not mistaken, does the 85 50 that you have not have Shovels on the wing tips?
If so, why change to spads?
I’m flying my 78 without either quit comfortablely.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ira Saligman
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Is anyone familiar with putting spades on a Yak 50?
Ira Saligman
o 610 940 0420
c 610 324 5500
f 215 243 7699
isaligman(at)Saligman.com (isaligman(at)Saligman.com)
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richard.goode(at)russiana
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:59 am Post subject: Spades |
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The Yak 50 "spades" are the devices on the wing tips,which came out in 83.
Not very attractive but do lighten the aileron loads.
Richard Goode
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viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:36 am Post subject: Spades |
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Sorry, I got it backwards.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
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The Yak 50 "spades" are the devices on the wing tips,which came out in 83.
Not very attractive but do lighten the aileron loads.
Richard Goode
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Ira,
If I am not mistaken, does the 85 50 that you have not have Shovels on the wing tips?
If so, why change to spads?
I’m flying my 78 without either quit comfortablely.
Doc
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Subject: Spades
Is anyone familiar with putting spades on a Yak 50?
Ira Saligman
o 610 940 0420
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f 215 243 7699
isaligman(at)Saligman.com (isaligman(at)Saligman.com)
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:27 pm Post subject: Spades |
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Actually I have seen both installed.... Not at the same time mind
you.... But some guys have indeed put spades on the 50's ailerons. Mine
has shovels... An 84 model.
Mark Bitterlich
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:26 pm Post subject: Re: Spades |
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Doc
You need them!
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:35 pm Post subject: Spades |
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That is what I thought the wing tip aileron load lighteners were called!
Shovels! I do not have them on my 78 but don't feel I need them either.
Besides, I have wingtips anyway. Not dumping them for shovels. She rolls
just fine with my current arrangement and have not been overwhelmed by the
forces on the controls at 380 kmph either yet.
Doc
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:15 am Post subject: Spades |
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We have the wingtip version. They seemed to need some adjustment so we removed them. We may or may not ever put them back on but if we do I am looking for some sort of alignment procedure.
If not aligned properly, they can put some real stressed on the outer section and trailing edge of the aileron.
Ira Saligman
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