Matronics Email Lists :: View topic

Matronics Email Lists
Web Forum Interface to the Matronics Email Lists

Get Email Distribution Too! FAQ Search Memberlist Usergroups Register

Profile Log in to check your private messages Log in

Fly the plane!!

Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> Kolb-List

View previous topic :: View next topic

Author Message

mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co
Guest

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:52 am Post subject: Fly the plane!!

John, and group of Kolb Guys,



  I just watched all 3 videos, in their entirety, and must say that this latest discussion about "Kolb quit" (as Pat prefers to call it) has been the most useless thread I've read in years!!



  Watching these gentlemen fly and land their Firestars reminded me of why I wanted a Kolb in the first place...namely because they are incredibly docile machines.  Conversions about stalling and bending landing gear and Kolb drop and other inane subjects have only lead to fears to those of us that have yet to fly our planes.



  I have several hundred hours of flight time on my Cessna 172.  I have never come even close to bending the landing gear.  I've never dropped it in from 10' feet up.  I've never stalled it as I was landing.  (Although I watched someone do this on a 152 rental plane).  Now I say to myself "why would I fear landing a Kolb, providing I FLY THE PLANE!!!"



  Now, I'm NOT coming down on anyone who has ever bent landing gear.  I know crap happens.  Even the best among us can have a lapse of concentration and make a misjudgement.  This may very well happen to me, someday.  But having just watched an excellent example of potential Kolb performance, long drawn-out discussions on falling out the sky seem useless.  Learn to fly the plane, simple as that.



  I found these videos refreshing, from the standpoint of knowing I am building an enjoyable flying,and gentle, well balanced aircraft.



Mike Welch

Kolb MkIII 



  



_________________________________________________________________

Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser!

http://biggestloser.msn.com/

- The Matronics Kolb-List Email Forum -

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List

John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:38 am Post subject: Fly the plane!!

Now I say to myself "why would I fear landing a Kolb, providing I FLY THE 

PLANE!!!"

 	  Quote: 	
		  

 >
	


 	  Quote: 	
		    I found these videos refreshing, from the standpoint of knowing I am 

 building an enjoyable flying,and gentle, well balanced aircraft.



 Mike Welch


	




Mike W:



Exactly what I have been saying.



I still bend a gear leg now and then, I think twice in the last couple 

thousand hours.  Most of the time is like the last gear leg bender, doing 

something that is not quite ordinary.  Landed with a passenger in a terraced 

hay field.  Got a little behind and off my intended tract, jumped a terrace 

at less than flying speed landing on one gear leg.  Result, bent gear leg.



Usually, it takes me a few times being asleep at the controls to land hard 

enough to bend one.  Again, that is what hydraulic presses are for.



I bent the 1" gear legs on my original FS during taxi preparing for its 

maiden flight.  Fixed that by going to what was then Twinstar 1 1/8" legs.



If I had VG's I'd probably still bend gear legs.  I like to fly a little out 

of the ordinary.



john h

mkIII

- The Matronics Kolb-List Email Forum -

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List

_________________
John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler
Titus, Alabama

lucien

Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Posts: 721
Location: santa fe, NM

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:59 am Post subject: Re: Fly the plane!!

 	  mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co wrote: 	
		  John, and group of Kolb Guys,



  I found these videos refreshing, from the standpoint of knowing I am building an enjoyable flying,and gentle, well balanced aircraft.



Mike Welch

Kolb MkIII 

	




Yep, these videos are pretty accurate renditions of how the firestar flies. My old FSII was stately like this in calm weather and still landed pretty slow even at my current 6300' MSL altitude.



You'll find the plane to be a pretty ordinary handler with no surprises and no tendency to "quit" more or less than any other light a/c of similar type. 



Miss my old one bad......



LS

  



_________________________________________________________________

Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser!

http://biggestloser.msn.com/[/quote]

- The Matronics Kolb-List Email Forum -

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List

_________________
LS
Titan II SS

captainron1(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:30 am Post subject: Fly the plane!!

Yes Mike I agree. Kolb quit sounds like some kind of epithet, maybe it was about Homer going into retirement.



Ron (TxAz)



===================================================

---- Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> wrote: 



=============




John, and group of Kolb Guys,



  I just watched all 3 videos, in their entirety, and must say that this latest discussion about "Kolb quit" (as Pat prefers to call it) has been the most useless thread I've read in years!!



  Watching these gentlemen fly and land their Firestars reminded me of why I wanted a Kolb in the first place...namely because they are incredibly docile machines.  Conversions about stalling and bending landing gear and Kolb drop and other inane subjects have only lead to fears to those of us that have yet to fly our planes.



  I have several hundred hours of flight time on my Cessna 172.  I have never come even close to bending the landing gear.  I've never dropped it in from 10' feet up.  I've never stalled it as I was landing.  (Although I watched someone do this on a 152 rental plane).  Now I say to myself "why would I fear landing a Kolb, providing I FLY THE PLANE!!!"



  Now, I'm NOT coming down on anyone who has ever bent landing gear.  I know crap happens.  Even the best among us can have a lapse of concentration and make a misjudgement.  This may very well happen to me, someday.  But having just watched an excellent example of potential Kolb performance, long drawn-out discussions on falling out the sky seem useless.  Learn to fly the plane, simple as that.



  I found these videos refreshing, from the standpoint of knowing I am building an enjoyable flying,and gentle, well balanced aircraft.



Mike Welch

Kolb MkIII 



  



_________________________________________________________________

Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser!

http://biggestloser.msn.com/



--

kugelair.com

- The Matronics Kolb-List Email Forum -

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List

Display posts from previous:

	Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> Kolb-List	All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

Jump to:

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum