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lik_2_fly(at)hotmail.com
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject: Inflight cameras

Hi,

 

Wondering if anyone has any experiance with in flight video camera's. Having trouble finding reasonably high quality camera's as well as recorders that can take mutliple camera's without the quality degrading.

 

Or do people just run individual video camera's for each remote head?

 

 Does anyone know what type of camera's are used in redbull air races?

 

cheers

Chris



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BUCSDDS(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:29 pm Post subject: Inflight cameras

If you should receive any response would you mind sharing?

  

 Marwin Goff

DSM

Varieze  O-200

515-360-0778

bucsdds(at)aol.com   

  In a message dated 2/26/2008 6:24:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,  lik_2_fly(at)hotmail.com writes:

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		  Hi,

 

Wondering if anyone has any experiance with in flight    video camera's. Having trouble finding reasonably high quality    camera's as well as recorders that can take mutliple camera's    without the quality degrading.

 

Or do people just run individual    video camera's for each remote head?

 

Does anyone know what type    of camera's are used in redbull air  races?



cheers

Chris

	






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trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:17 am Post subject: Inflight cameras

I am also interested in what you find  

   

Carlos Trigo  

RV-9A  

Portugal  

           

  

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If you should receive any response would you mind sharing?  

    

   

    

Marwin Goff

 DSM

 Varieze O-200

 515-360-0778

 bucsdds(at)aol.com     

   

      

In a message dated 2/26/2008 6:24:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, lik_2_fly(at)hotmail.com writes:  

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Hi,

  

 Wondering if anyone has any experiance with in flight video camera's. Having trouble finding reasonably high quality camera's as well as recorders that can take mutliple camera's without the quality degrading.

  

 Or do people just run individual video camera's for each remote head?

  

 Does anyone know what type of camera's are used in redbull air races?

 

 cheers

 Chris  	
  

  

  



 

         

  

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n395v

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 450

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:46 am Post subject: Re: Inflight cameras

Good discussion about them here.



http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=25181&highlight=camera+easy



Several other threads on VAF if you search cameras or videos,

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Milt

Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:14 am Post subject: Inflight cameras

I think most of the guys just use one small video camera in the plane or mounted outside.  With multiple cameras you can edit the pieces together on you r computer.  Bringing a whole switching suite aloft in a two seat plane isn’t really an option.  

   

I would recommend using a 1A skylight filter for video aloft to kill some of the excess blue you usually get.  It will also make the ground look a lot sharper..  White light balancing can do a lot to correct colour but to do the job right you still have to go back to either a 1A or a UV lens filter.  

   

When placed on a sheet of white paper the 1A will appear to have a very slight yellow tint..  The UV will look slightly salmon colour.  Neither filter will affect your exposure.    

   

I also advise you to go to a camera specialty shop to buy your equipment.  They probably won’t look at you as if you had two heads when you ask about filters to fit the camera you are about to purchase.  They will also be able to advise you on the care and operation of your camera and generally if warranty is required they will help there too.  BTW most camera stores are very competitive with big box outfits like Wallyco.  

   

Noel  

       

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I am also interested in what you find  

   

Carlos Trigo  

RV-9A  

Portugal  

           

  

From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of BUCSDDS(at)aol.com

 Sent: quarta-feira, 27 de Fevereiro de 2008 1:26

 To: avionics-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Inflight cameras  

  

     

If you should receive any response would you mind sharing?  

    

   

    

Marwin Goff

 DSM

 Varieze O-200

 515-360-0778

 bucsdds(at)aol.com     

   

      

In a message dated 2/26/2008 6:24:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, lik_2_fly(at)hotmail.com writes:  

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Hi,

  

 Wondering if anyone has any experiance with in flight video camera's. Having trouble finding reasonably high quality camera's as well as recorders that can take mutliple camera's without the quality degrading.

  

 Or do people just run individual video camera's for each remote head?

  

 Does anyone know what type of camera's are used in redbull air races?

 

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Noel Loveys
Kitfox III-A
Aerocet 1100 Floats

gary(at)liming.org
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:19 am Post subject: Inflight cameras

I have four permanent mounts on my airplane - a camera looking 

straight aft (which comes in handy as a "rear view mirror") and makes 

very dramatic departure footage in the STOL plane, and one on each 

wing on a ground adjustable swivel.  I usually have the right wingcam 

pointed straight ahead (or sometimes, straight down) and the other 

one I have pointed at the cabin.  I also have a rear cabin camera 

pointed at the panel, also looking out the windshield, and another 

one (lower res) that is wireless that can be duct taped anywhere 

outside on the airframe for recording tufts, etc.  All of the these 

go into a shielded 5 position switch box that has two outputs, one to 

a monitor built into the door of my mapbox, and the other to jacks to 

the video camera.  The audio portion of the video camera is fed by 

the intercom's output of the pilot's headphones, so anything I hear 

in my headphones is recorded.  All devices are 12 volts.



The cameras are 480 line Sony super HAD 1/3 inch sensor cams that 

allow for different focal length lenses.   They look pretty good for 

standard res tv, and make for some clear images.  Anything less looks 

pretty bad - I am waiting for some 720 or even 1080 cams to be 

cheaply available - then I might upgrade the cameras.



I usually just hook up the camera to the system and turn it on as 

part of preflight - select which camera I want to record, and then 

forget about it until landing.  One exception is if I want to see who 

is behind me on the taxi way if its a busy day. I have learned to 

always have the recorder on, though, because you simply don't know 

what might come up - the one time you don't use it is the time you 

wish you had.  If the flight is unremarkable, I just rewind the DV 

for the next flight.



Gary Liming

steve(at)huttmail.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:20 am Post subject: Inflight Cameras

I’ve no experience of using these, but they are built specifically for this sort of task…..  

   

See here:          http://www.sport-cam.co.uk/activities.asp  

   

These folks are in the UK but I’d be very surprised if there’s no equivalent available in the US.  

   

Take a look at the Quad Splitter and the 30GB Digital Recorder in the Recording Devices section.  

   

Steve   

   

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hdwysong(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:39 am Post subject: Inflight cameras

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		    Hi, Wondering if anyone has any experiance with in flight video camera's. H

  aving trouble finding reasonably high quality camera's as well as recorders

   that can take mutliple camera's without the quality degrading.


	


See info on cameras, recorder selection, and some great flying videos here:



http://www.thedukes.org/rv/tailcam.html



As you noted, pulling multiple feeds into one recorder will degrade

the quality since you're "sharing" a fixed amount of recorder

resolution between the cameras.  We dedicate one recorder per camera

or use a video switcher between multiple cameras and a single

recorder.



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GrummanDude

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 926
Location: Auburn, CA

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject: Inflight cameras

Would it be possible to provide a list of the parts, where they can be purchased, and how much. Â I am about to do some flight testing and was wondering about cameras.

 

 

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Gary
AuCountry Aviation
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GrummanDude

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 926
Location: Auburn, CA

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject: Inflight Cameras

The setup page says I need a camcorder. Â Doesn't the DVR do the same thing?

 

 

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AuCountry Aviation
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steve(at)huttmail.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:46 am Post subject: Inflight Cameras

Yes, that’s my understanding too.  

   

Just use one camera (with mount) plus cable and DVR. Add Splitter and extra cameras/cables if required.  

   

Steve  

   

   

   

           

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Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:15 am Post subject: Inflight Cameras

Yes it does...Â  Â but... be careful of DVRs that may be out there with HDDs.Â  Those drives are designed to work on the ground and you may have problems with them at altitude.Â  There is no known problems with either tape, DVD or memory sticks.Â    

Same thing goes for I-Pods with the HDD.  

   

Noel  

   

   

     

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The setup page says I need a camcorder.  Doesn't the DVR do the same thing?

 

 

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Noel Loveys
Kitfox III-A
Aerocet 1100 Floats

jetboy

Joined: 22 Jul 2006
Posts: 233

Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: Re: Inflight cameras

There's good information on ways to do it here



http://www.reflight.com/pdrs.html

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