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sean(at)hangerg.com
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:41 am Post subject: Lurking about

Ok, so here goes. I have been lurking about and I am getting ready to pull

the trigger and purchase my RV10 kit from vans but I was wondering if any

bigger induviduals can chime in. I am a fairly large guy 6 foot 1 and 235

pounds, how comfortable is the RV10 on longer trips. I currently have a

cherokee 180 and the cabin room just isnt enough for my wife. So

subsequently my wife doesnt like to fly longer trips becuase of comfort. So

I am looking for input prior to calling vans and placing the order. I like

the performance and the cabin seems like its much larger than the 180 I'm

flying. 



Thanks for the help.



Sean Garrison



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ricksked(at)embarqmail.co
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:08 am Post subject: Lurking about

Sean,



I'm 6', 260 heading towards 220. Mt time in the -10 was when I was almost 320...and I fit OK. You should not have any issues it is very roomy. The back even more so. 



Rick Sked

40185



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msausen

Joined: 25 Oct 2007
Posts: 559
Location: Appleton, WI USA

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:16 am Post subject: Lurking about

I think you will find it rather comfortable for a 4 place.  There are a lot of us corn fed boys on the list and I have yet to hear anyone complain about long trips.  I'm sure Tim will chime in here and he is another guy that is fairly big.  The few times I have been up for flights I never noticed a comfort problem and I'm 6'2" and 260.  I do have a lot of hanger time making airplane noises though.  



Michael



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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2879

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:28 am Post subject: Lurking about

Sean,



I'm currently pretty much identically sized as you....(wish I wasn't,

'cuz it ain't all muscle, but hey...I do what I can do)



I can tell you that the RV-10 has considerably more capacity than

what I take up.  I am not at all large for that plane.  You could

be taller, wider or both, and probably be just fine.  When my

seats are cold, my head hits the top....until I warm it up

and the foam conforms better.  I could fix that with baked beans

though.



I've flown > 10hr days and found it more comfortable than 2 hours

in the car.  The standard Van's seats from oregon aero are

exceedingly comfortable.



You just won't be disappointed.  Might want to go for a demo

flight just to prove it to yourself. 



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying



sean(at)hangerg.com wrote:

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 Ok, so here goes. I have been lurking about and I am getting ready to pull

 the trigger and purchase my RV10 kit from vans but I was wondering if any

 bigger induviduals can chime in. I am a fairly large guy 6 foot 1 and 235

 pounds, how comfortable is the RV10 on longer trips. I currently have a

 cherokee 180 and the cabin room just isnt enough for my wife. So

 subsequently my wife doesnt like to fly longer trips becuase of comfort. So

 I am looking for input prior to calling vans and placing the order. I like

 the performance and the cabin seems like its much larger than the 180 I'm

 flying. 

 

 Thanks for the help.

 

 Sean Garrison

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2879

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:31 am Post subject: Lurking about

Gee, thanks Michael... (LMAO!)



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:

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		   I'm sure Tim will chime in here and he is

 another guy that is fairly big.  

 Michael

drfred(at)suddenlinkmail.
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:36 am Post subject: Lurking about

Go for it. You will love this airplane. I've ridden in the demonstrator 

and in my friends RV 10. Plenty of room. Enough for a center console if 

you want it. Take the plunge.



Fred Williams

40515

sean(at)hangerg.com wrote:

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 Ok, so here goes. I have been lurking about and I am getting ready to pull

 the trigger and purchase my RV10 kit from vans but I was wondering if any

 bigger induviduals can chime in. I am a fairly large guy 6 foot 1 and 235

 pounds, how comfortable is the RV10 on longer trips. I currently have a

 cherokee 180 and the cabin room just isnt enough for my wife. So

 subsequently my wife doesnt like to fly longer trips becuase of comfort. So

 I am looking for input prior to calling vans and placing the order. I like

 the performance and the cabin seems like its much larger than the 180 I'm

 flying. 



 Thanks for the help.



 Sean Garrison



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flywrights(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:37 am Post subject: Lurking about

You'll fit.  However, you may need to convince yourself of that and find a -10 to sit in.  In fact, I'd be willing to say that you could fit two of you and two 180-lb guys in the plane and not be cramped.

  

 Rob Wright

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AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:16 am Post subject: Lurking about

Sean - 



This exact issue was addressed before the first prototype flew from VANS

N410RV.  As I tell the story, Van, Ken Krueger, Gus and Tom Green all

have narrow hips of engineers.



Scott Risen offered me to sit in the prototype cockpit to which I then

immediately offered a friend, Bill McDonald, to get in with me.  Bill

moved for the Pilots seat (without hesitation), I slid into the Flight

Instructor seat.  Bill is 6'4 and 285#, at the time I was over 6'2" and

235#.  I am north of that now.



Back to the story... I asked how Scott intended to get the clamshell

doors closed.  Our outboard shoulders were both out of the canopy

curvature.  The 10" wide tunnel was reduced in width (to its current

width) and as I suggested they moved the two seats closer to the

centerline.  The result is that two BIG GUYS can move around, obtain

objects from the rear seat, stretch their legs and still have room to

spare.  I even have pictures available as to what the legroom looks like

from the rear when Tim Olson is flying.  The sight lines over the engine

cowl are quite good as well.  The only negative is the solar gain from

so much visibility.



The solution, get a short ride with a flying RV-10 in your area.  If you

mention offline where you are located, I will check my database and give

you three of the closest flying RV-10s to try on the fit.  The water is

great "Come on In".



John Cox 

#40600

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rv(at)thelefflers.com
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: Lurking about

Sean,



I have a Cherokee 180 and my wife's #1 concern was legroom in the back seat.

Here's a pic from the back of Dave Saylor's RV-10.   I'm 6'2", 230lbs and as

you can see there is plenty of room in the back seat.   I can't remember if

it was Dave Ward or John Goodman in the back seat with me, but it was a very

comfortable ride.  Nothing like a Cherokee.  There was a good 6" between my

knees and the back of the front seat.



http://www.kitlog.com/photos/project_260/full/FP31012008A0002T.jpg



bob



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Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1705
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject: Lurking about

So how did you get taller John?  

Is that airline work that elevating?

John W. Cox wrote:

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   Bill is 6'4 and 285#, at the time I was over 6'2" and

 235#.  I am north of that now.

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Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1705
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:54 pm Post subject: Lurking about

Folks don't believe it because of the low seating position, but even the 

oldest Mooneys are wider than both the Cherokee and the Bonanza. RV-10 

has plenty of room.



Bob Leffler wrote:

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 Sean,



 I have a Cherokee 180 and my wife's #1 concern was legroom in the back seat.

 Here's a pic from the back of Dave Saylor's RV-10.   I'm 6'2", 230lbs and as

 you can see there is plenty of room in the back seat.   I can't remember if

 it was Dave Ward or John Goodman in the back seat with me, but it was a very

 comfortable ride.  Nothing like a Cherokee.  There was a good 6" between my

 knees and the back of the front seat.



 http://www.kitlog.com/photos/project_260/full/FP31012008A0002T.jpg



 bob

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AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: Lurking about

Shrinking in height from ole age and the weight increase while trying to

match Michael Sausen... at the same time eating Tim's Chili.



I want an RV-10 figure like Rick Sked and Deems who are becoming only a

wisp of there former selves last year.



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bob.kaufmann(at)cox.net
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:02 pm Post subject: Lurking about

I'm 6 2 and give or take 210 lbs. and I fit very well in Russ's 10.  I think you will find that if I or my partner Rick can fit then you and your wife can fit.  For a funny ,mental thought, think of me and Rick Sked in the front of my old Cessna 172, circa 1958.   If we can fit there then you and your wife could easily fit in the 10.  FWIW, both Rick and I have slimmed down, but he has done much better at weight loss than I have.  I just went for more horsepower.



Bob K

Working slowly, estimate someday.



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dav1111(at)erfwireless.ne
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:30 am Post subject: Lurking about

Sean,

      

       I'm 6', 260 heading towards 220. Mt time in the -10 was when I was almost  320...and

      I fit OK. You should not have any  issues it is very roomy. The back even

      more  so. 

      

      Rick  Sked

      40185



 I have read all the posts and guess I better put my two cents  worth in as well.  Since Rick Sked owned up to being a little heavy  when he flew my -10 (I was in the left seat and Rick in the right) I will  confess to being fat and happy as well  At the time I was about 265 and am  5'10" tall.  With Rick at 320 and me at 265 the front seats were a little  crowded but I was not touching either the door or Rick's shoulder.   

  

 Admittedly Rick and I were only doing a local flight but size  wise it was a really good test.  By the way on  one local flight Rick  was in the back seat and with me and a 180 lb guy up front the -10 at Las Vegas  still performed like a winner.

  

 Bob K. (6'2" and 210), his wife and mine flew back from Las  Vegas to El Paso along with full baggage and everybody was really happy with the  room in the -10.  Guys in front, girls in back.  No, I wouldn't be  dumb enough to post the weights of the wives!!!  If I did my wife would see  to it I lost all my excess weight running away.

  

 To give you a comparison, I owned three different C-182's, and  the -10 is lots bigger inside than the C-182.

  

 Russ Daves

 N710RV - 190+ hours 

  

  

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Sean(at)hangerg.com
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: Lurking about

Thank you so much for all of the feedback it is very much appreciated. I guess I will have to get my backside into a 10 and take a flight either at Sun&Fun or with some fine individual that has a  Florida. From the sounds of it I will have plenty of room. I do have one question though How much room loss will occur with interior work?  

   

Thanks All  



 Sean Garrison   

       

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Sean,

       

       I'm 6', 260 heading towards 220. Mt time in the -10 was when I was almost 320...and

       I fit OK. You should not have any issues it is very roomy. The back even

       more so. 

       

       Rick Sked

       40185  

    

I have read all the posts and guess I better put my two cents worth in as well.  Since Rick Sked owned up to being a little heavy when he flew my -10 (I was in the left seat and Rick in the right) I will confess to being fat and happy as well  At the time I was about 265 and am 5'10" tall.  With Rick at 320 and me at 265 the front seats were a little crowded but I was not touching either the door or Rick's shoulder.    

    

   

    

Admittedly Rick and I were only doing a local flight but size wise it was a really good test.  By the way on  one local flight Rick was in the back seat and with me and a 180 lb guy up front the -10 at Las Vegas still performed like a winner.  

    

   

    

Bob K. (6'2" and 210), his wife and mine flew back from Las Vegas to El Paso along with full baggage and everybody was really happy with the room in the -10.  Guys in front, girls in back.  No, I wouldn't be dumb enough to post the weights of the wives!!!  If I did my wife would see to it I lost all my excess weight running away.  

    

   

    

To give you a comparison, I owned three different C-182's, and the -10 is lots bigger inside than the C-182.  

    

   

    

Russ Daves  

    

N710RV - 190+ hours   

    

   

    

   

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dav1111(at)erfwireless.ne
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:20 am Post subject: Lurking about

How much room loss will occur with interior  work?

      

 My previous posting was based on the finished interior work, not stripped  down.   If you climb into the back seat of an unfinished -10 without  seats, carpet, or side panels installed you could fit two 6"10" 375 lb sumu  wrestlers.

  

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