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jmaynard

Joined: 27 Feb 2008
Posts: 394
Location: Fairmont, MN (FRM)

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:31 pm Post subject: It's official

I sent in the deposit on my Zodiac XLi this morning. Now, I get to finish

the paint and interior designs, and wait impatiently for delivery.



The base paint design is on my LiveJournal, at

http://jmaynard.livejournal.com/328864.html . There's still more to be added

to it, in the form of vinyl graphics. Anyone know why green isn't a common

color for aircraft? Also, how much can I do on the wings? I assume that

full-span vinyl strips just behind the leading edge are a Bad Idea for

airflow, but I've seen some on aircraft before. I'm not looking to go hog

wild here, but I do want something.



It'll be one of the best-equipped Zodiacs AMD has built, and that's just the

way I want it. The aircraft will be more capable than me, so I can grow into

it.

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Jay Maynard, K5ZC                   http://www.conmicro.com

http://jmaynard.livejournal.com      http://www.tronguy.net

Fairmont, MN (FRM)                        (Yes, that's me!)

AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (ordered 17 March, delivery 2 June)

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AMD Zodiac XLi N55ZC

haven

Joined: 11 Apr 2007
Posts: 19
Location: Kansas City MO

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: It's official

because it blends in with the trees if you have a off field landing in the forest.  That would be my guess.  And a white one would blend into the snow in the winter,  That pretty much leaves PINK.

lwinger

Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Posts: 229
Location: Tustin, CA

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject: It's official

Jay,

  

 Congratulations on you choice of the 601XL from AMD.  From your recent posts on this list, it is clear that you have done your research.  Reading your LiveJournal entries it sounds like you've been getting some good stick time in the plane as well.  

   

 Please be sure to post photos and performance data as you have it.  It would be really interesting to learn what a top-of-the-line 601XL comes with from the factory, if you'd be willing to share.

  

 Larry Winger

 601XL/Corvair

 Tustin, CA

 Working on the rear fuselage



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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:39 am Post subject: It's official

actually, small spanwise bumps can have a beneficial effect - at the speeds this plane plies I would not worry at all. Just make certain that the surfaces are spotlessly clean and it is down well along the leading edge so that you do not have lifting/peeling. Also, the transfer adhesive commonly used on vinyl graphics is time sensitive as to attachment integrity; it flows to wet the surface over a little while. It would be better if you did not apply and fly.



Jay Maynard <jmaynard(at)conmicro.com> wrote:[quote] --> Zenith-List message posted by: Jay Maynard 



I sent in the deposit on my Zodiac XLi this morning. Now, I get to finish

the paint and interior designs, and wait impatiently for delivery.



The base paint design is on my LiveJournal, at

http://jmaynard.livejournal.com/328864.html . There's still  [quote][b]

jmaynard

Joined: 27 Feb 2008
Posts: 394
Location: Fairmont, MN (FRM)

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:51 am Post subject: Re: It's official

 	  lwinger wrote: 	
		   Please be sure to post photos and performance data as you have it.  It would be really interesting to learn what a top-of-the-line 601XL comes with from the factory, if you'd be willing to share. 	




You'd have to twist my arm to get me to not post pictures!  I do plan to have a web page with all of the pictures I can think of taking.



My XLi will have all of the airframe options AMD offers except the BRS parachute, the airbag seat belts, and the wing lockers (not because of structural concerns, but because I just couldn't see any use for them). The stack will have a GNS430W with CDI, an SL40, a GMA340, and a GTX330, and there'll also be a mount and wiring for my GPS496. I'll also have a TruTrak Digiflight IIVSG autopilot, and fuel flow sensors for the Dynon EMS. All of that is on top of the comprehensive equipment package that's standard on the XLi. It's a very complete package, and one that I'll enjoy flying.

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Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:25 am Post subject: Re: It's official

If it's not to late think about this as a reason for the wing lockers. Weight in that position moves the CG a lot less than weight in the rear baggage area.





 	  jmaynard wrote: 	
		   	  lwinger wrote: 	
		   Please be sure to post photos and performance data as you have it.  It would be really interesting to learn what a top-of-the-line 601XL comes with from the factory, if you'd be willing to share. 	




You'd have to twist my arm to get me to not post pictures!  I do plan to have a web page with all of the pictures I can think of taking.



My XLi will have all of the airframe options AMD offers except the BRS parachute, the airbag seat belts, and the wing lockers (not because of structural concerns, but because I just couldn't see any use for them). The stack will have a GNS430W with CDI, an SL40, a GMA340, and a GTX330, and there'll also be a mount and wiring for my GPS496. I'll also have a TruTrak Digiflight IIVSG autopilot, and fuel flow sensors for the Dynon EMS. All of that is on top of the comprehensive equipment package that's standard on the XLi. It's a very complete package, and one that I'll enjoy flying.

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jmaynard

Joined: 27 Feb 2008
Posts: 394
Location: Fairmont, MN (FRM)

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:11 am Post subject: Re: It's official

 	  Gig Giacona wrote: 	
		  If it's not to late think about this as a reason for the wing lockers. Weight in that position moves the CG a lot less than weight in the rear baggage area. 	




I don't doubt that...but the problem I have is that they're small enough that I can't think of what I'd put in them. I'm also not completely sure they're weather-tight, although it'd be kinda dumb for them not to be.

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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:36 am Post subject: It's official

And with all those Dzus fasteners, not really very handy.



Jay in Dallas

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"jmaynard" <jmaynard(at)conmicro.com> wrote:



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Gig Giacona wrote:

> If it's not to late think about this as a reason for the wing lockers. Weight in that position moves the CG a lot less than weight in the rear baggage area.

I don't doubt that...but the problem I have is that they're small enough that I can't think of what I'd put in them. I'm also not completely sure they're weather-tight, although it'd be kinda dumb for them not to be.



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Jay Maynard, K5ZC

AMD Zodiac XLi N55ZC

(ordered 17 March, delivery 2 June)





Read this topic online here:



http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=170615#170615

Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:11 am Post subject: Re: It's official

True but better than duct-taping a couple of changes of clothes  to the wing. 



And I will figure out a better fastener sooner or later.



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 	  Jaybannist(at)cs.com wrote: 	
		  And with all those Dzus fasteners, not really very handy.

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601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:20 am Post subject: It's official

Jay,

  

 I have an HDS with the wing lockers in and would not be without them.  The wing is a lot thicker than the XL wing, but I would still think about adding them to your plane.  I have flown from Oshkosh (Home) to SnF and out West a couple of times with the lockers packed full of stuff as well as the rest of the  plane. They will leak a little if there is rain.  I have small plastic storage buckets that keeps stuff dry.  They are good for tools, oil, parts, tie-downs, canopy cover, cleaning stuff for the plane, tent,etc.  It takes only a few seconds to open the Dzus fasteners.  They are very handy.  

  

 AL from Oshkosh

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jmaynard

Joined: 27 Feb 2008
Posts: 394
Location: Fairmont, MN (FRM)

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:42 am Post subject: Re: It's official

 	  Gig Giacona wrote: 	
		  Weight in that position moves the CG a lot less than weight in the rear baggage area. 	




This brings up a related question: I have not yet seen a complete set of weight and balance numbers for any Zodiac at all. Can someone pass along data on their plane? I know mine will be different, but right now, I have no feel for it at all.

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Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:48 am Post subject: Re: It's official

I'm no where close to doing weight and balence but if I just sent a deposit to AMD I think I'd give them call and see if you could get a copy of the POH now.



 	  jmaynard wrote: 	
		   	  Gig Giacona wrote: 	
		  Weight in that position moves the CG a lot less than weight in the rear baggage area. 	




This brings up a related question: I have not yet seen a complete set of weight and balance numbers for any Zodiac at all. Can someone pass along data on their plane? I know mine will be different, but right now, I have no feel for it at all.

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601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

jmaynard

Joined: 27 Feb 2008
Posts: 394
Location: Fairmont, MN (FRM)

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:55 am Post subject: Re: It's official

 	  Gig Giacona wrote: 	
		  I'm no where close to doing weight and balence but if I just sent a deposit to AMD I think I'd give them call and see if you could get a copy of the POH now. 	




I've seen the POH...and the W&B numbers aren't filled in until they produce the specific book for the aircraft. That's a good idea, though, as I can do other things like make laminated checklists.

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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:06 am Post subject: It's official

Gary Ray's very complete W&B spreadsheet contains the numbers for his

Corvair-powered XL. It is under "Builder's resources" on www.ch601.org here:



http://www.ch601.org/resources/W&B/ZodiacXLWBFinal.xls



-- Craig



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jmaynard

Joined: 27 Feb 2008
Posts: 394
Location: Fairmont, MN (FRM)

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:36 am Post subject: Re: It's official

 	  craig(at)craigandjean.com wrote: 	
		  Gary Ray's very complete W&B spreadsheet contains the numbers for his

Corvair-powered XL. It is under "Builder's resources" on www.ch601.org here:



http://www.ch601.org/resources/W&B/ZodiacXLWBFinal.xls 	




Just what I was looking for. Thanks!

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Larry Hursh

Joined: 16 Feb 2008
Posts: 125
Location: Edwardsburg, MI (near Elkhart, IN)

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:56 am Post subject: It's official

Well I plan on putting my 4 ton hydraulic jack, tie downs, tie down stakes, extra quarts of oil, a set of chains if I need them, a couple of bungee cords, extra grease (in case my wheels stop going around and around), a couple of cases of Diet Coke, some ice for our "in-flight" lunch to keep the pop cold and lunch meat cold, probably a couple of bags of groceries, our luggage (I'd hate to overload the baggage area behind the seat yah know) and our pillows.  That should about round out everything we'll need for our over night trips.  I just wished I would have put on the extra fuel tanks so I can fly further without having to stop and refueling too.......

   

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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:21 pm Post subject: It's official

You ARE kidding, yes.???

 A four ton jack ?   I dont think so,  Larry...

 Maybe a one half ton  but shirley not a four  ton...

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swater6

Joined: 16 Dec 2006
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Location: Minnesota-KMIC/KANE

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:38 pm Post subject: Re: It's official

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Don't call me Shirley........

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ch701builder

Joined: 07 Feb 2006
Posts: 119
Location: N38.9947,W105.1305,ALT. 9,100'

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject: It's official

Also, a case of Diet Coke weighs less than a case of Coke (less calories) and if you fly high enough, you don't need ice!!! Only need chains over high mountain passes in the Winter. (not really needed in the Summer) so plan your trips accordingly.

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hansriet

Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Posts: 93

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:23 pm Post subject: Re: It's official

Everybody knows the 601 is front wheel drive. So you only need one chain.



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