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jsflyrv(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:14 am Post subject: Garmin 296

Hi all,

Been a while since I have been here, but I see things are still going 

along pretty much the same 



I have been looking through the archives seeing if anyone has had the 

same problem

and come up with a solutions to Garmins not locking onto Sats.  I have 

read all the threads about

dead internal batteries and selecting the options etc. I cannot believe 

that the internal

memory battery is dead as this unit is not that old. It is very 

frustrating to go fly and

not get a GPS lock on.



My 296 use to lock on almost immediately but now takes a long time to 

find the satellites,

Some flight it well not lock on at all if it sits more than a few days

Has anyone that I read about having this problem come up with a real 

solution?

It seems like everyone's problem started around the same time, could 

this have been the result

of a version of upgrade? I always upgrade when Garmin notifies me one is 

available.



My old Flybuddy GPS memory battery went dead after about 10 years, I 

took it apart and

replaced it with one I found online. has anyone took a Garmin 296 apart?



Thanks

Jerry

darnpilot(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:50 am Post subject: Garmin 296

I have the same issues with my 496.  I concur in that it seems to have started suddenly for quite a few of us.  Mine started this past July.  Has anyone contacted Garmin and gotten a reasonable answer?  I plan to visit with them when I attend SNF next month.

 

    

   Jeff

 

 

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gyoung

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 211
Location: Republic of Texas

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:03 am Post subject: Garmin 296

I just got my 396 back from Garmin after they confirmed my real time clock battery was the problem. They wound up giving me an exchange unit. One of the hoops I had to jump thru was a master reset. In reading about that procedure it appears there are cases of memory corruption that mimic the battery problem and are fixed by th reset. 



The master reset procedure is complex and will flush all your user waypoints and routes so you should do a backup using Mapsource or other. I Googled for the proc b ut someone may have it handy. It may differ slightly for the 296 vs 396. Garmin complained that these lists make it sound like the batt is a huge problem when it is really rare. They'll take care of it if it is but can walk you thru other steps to fix or confirm it. 



Regards,

Greg

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Jerry Cochran

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 111
Location: Wilsonville, OR

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:29 am Post subject: Garmin 296

Hi Jerry,

 

 I had similar symptoms with my 296, but mine turned out to be the antenna. Bad shield splice by builder, Me. Took same apart, went to  Knuckolls site for how to do it right, and now working better than ever.

 

 Jerry Cochran

 

 

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darnpilot(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:27 pm Post subject: Garmin 296

Jerry:

    

   That's not the case here.  Those of us experiencing this problem, it is the unit losing the time/date, not a signal problem.  When the unit does not properly store the date, it does not know where to look for the satellites when its next turned on, therefor it is "lost" for a long time until it figures out where it is and updates the clock.  Then the unit works fine until the next time its shut off for any length of time.

 

 Its definitely an internal clock issue and not an antenna issue.  The problem is this: is it a software issue, or a battery issue?  Most of the problems are being experienced by relatively new units, and all within the last year.  Seems like there must be a Garmin common problem, and thus a Garmin "fix"?

 

 Jeff

 

 

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sportav8r(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: Garmin 296

I was the first to comment on this, and mine's not a new unit.  Perhaps 5 years old now.  I last flew on 3/3, then went again yesterday and the unit thought the date was 3/11, so the thing seems to wander off into the weeds after a week of inactivity.  Fixes itself rather promptly if the new location, automatic detect menu features are stepped through, otherwise it gives up trying to find a fix after a few m inutes and asks if I want to start simulator mode.

 

-Bill B



On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 4:23 PM,  <darnpilot(at)aol.com (darnpilot(at)aol.com)> wrote:

[quote]  Jerry:

    

   That's not the case here.  Those of us experiencing this problem, it is the unit losing the time/date, not a signal problem.  When the unit does not properly store the date, it does not know where to look for the satellites when its next turned on, therefor it is "lost" for a long time until it figures out where it is and updates the clock.  Then the unit works fine until the next time its shut off for any length of time.

  

 Its definitely an internal clock issue and not an antenna issue.  The problem is this: is it a software issue, or a battery issue?  Most of the problems are being experienced by relatively new units, and all within the last year.  Seems like there must be a Garmin common problem, and thus a Garmin "fix"?

  

 Jeff



 

 

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Leland Collins

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 21

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:12 am Post subject: Re: Garmin 296

I've had the same problem with my 4-year old Garmin 296 being unable to lock onto satellites after loosing its internal date. I think its a dead battery problem because the battery looses about 20% of its charge overnight. I just ordered a new battery from www.batteriesamerica.com for $59 plus $11 shipping. Garmin supposedly now has the part number 010-10517-01 as a replacement for the original 011-00955-00 unit. The replacement part has a larger capacity rating. The replacement unit is the same for the 396 and 496. 

Leland

sportav8r(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:30 am Post subject: Garmin 296

Leland- please let us know if this solves the problem.  If it does, alot of us will be ordering replacement batteries!



-Bill



On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Leland Collins <federigo(at)pacbell.net (federigo(at)pacbell.net)> wrote:

 [quote]--> RV-List message posted by: "Leland Collins" <federigo(at)pacbell.net (federigo(at)pacbell.net)>

  

 I've had the same problem with my 4-year old Garmin 296 being unable to lock onto satellites after loosing its internal date. I think its a dead battery problem because the battery looses about 20% of its charge overnight. I just ordered a new battery from www.batteriesamerica.com for $59 plus $11 shipping. Garmin supposedly now has the part number 010-10517-01 as a replacement for the original 011-00955-00 unit. The replacement part has a larger capacity rating. The replacement unit is the same for the 396 and 496.

  Leland

 

 

 

 

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Steve Glasgow

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 674

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:19 am Post subject: Garmin 296

Do you guys make all the software updates from Garmin?  Mine is almost 56 

years old and no problems yet.



Steve Glasgow-Cappy

N123SG  RV-8

Cappy's Toy

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tracy(at)rotaryaviation.c
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:53 am Post subject: Garmin 296

Wow, that was foresite on Garmin's part. Building it even before the first GPS satelite went up!

  

 Tracy Crook (I make typos too <G>)

 On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Steve Glasgow <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com (willfly(at)carolina.rr.com)> wrote:

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wdleonard(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:55 am Post subject: Garmin 296

Problem is, that you never know there is a problem until it is too late.



Early in my flying career I was doing a cross country and borrowed my friends new-fangled GPS, - a garmin 95.  The database was a little over a year old and I figured that not much could have changed.

 

The problem is that they had moved the Denver airport, and it never occured to me that the database was using the old airport and class B.  I remenber cruising on into Boulder at night thinking "Boy, look at all those airliners lined up.  Sure seems like I am flying right through the middle of the final approach.  GPS says I am outside class B though, so I'm OK."  ....

 

Name withheld to protect the guilty.  



On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Steve Glasgow <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com (willfly(at)carolina.rr.com)> wrote:

[quote] --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com (willfly(at)carolina.rr.com)>

 

 Do you guys make all the software updates from Garmin?  Mine is almost 56

 years old and no problems yet.

 

 Steve Glasgow-Cappy

 N123SG  RV-8

 Cappy's Toy

 

 

 

 

 

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jsflyrv(at)verizon.net
Guest

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:49 am Post subject: Garmin 296

Does not the 296 have an internal memory battery? Are you talking about 

the battery that powers the GPS, I understand it is the internal memory 

battery that

is causing the problems?



Jerry

Leland Collins wrote:



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I've had the same problem with my 4-year old Garmin 296 being unable to lock onto satellites after loosing its internal date. I think its a dead battery problem because the battery looses about 20% of its charge overnight. I just ordered a new battery from www.batteriesamerica.com for $59 plus $11 shipping. Garmin supposedly now has the part number 010-10517-01 as a replacement for the original 011-00955-00 unit. The replacement part has a larger capacity rating. The replacement unit is the same for the 396 and 496. 

Leland





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Steve Glasgow

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 674

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:57 am Post subject: Garmin 296

<Do you guys make all the software updates from  Garmin?  Mine is almost 56 years old and no problems yet.>

  

 Should read almost 5 years old.  

  

 Steve Glasgow-Cappy

N123SG  RV-8

Cappy's  Toy



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Leland Collins

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 21

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject: Re: Garmin 296

[quote="Leland Collins"]I've had the same problem with my 4-year old Garmin 296 being unable to lock onto satellites after loosing its internal date. I think its a dead battery problem because the battery looses about 20% of its charge overnight. I just ordered a new battery from www.batteriesamerica.com for $59 plus $11 shipping. Garmin supposedly now has the part number 010-10517-01 as a replacement for the original 011-00955-00 unit. The replacement part has a larger capacity rating. The replacement unit is the same for the 396 and 496. 

Leland[/quote]

I changed the main battery and the problem is still there. If I do not fly the plane for several days, the unit stops tracking the date/time. Now the question is: Is it possible to change the "time" battery without sending it to Garmin?

gyoung

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 211
Location: Republic of Texas

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:04 pm Post subject: Garmin 296

Call Garmin first and let them take you through the troubleshooting steps.

There is a memory corruption  issue that causes the same symptoms. If they

can confirm the real time clock battery really is bad, they might replace

it.



Regards,

Greg Young

 



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