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AV8ORJWC
Joined: 13 Jul 2006
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Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"
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 Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:12 am Post subject: Mogas / Avgas Trivia |
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Tips on pumping gas.
I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... but here in California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But my line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your money's worth for every gallon..
Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose, CA we deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons.
Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important role.
A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.
When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3)stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode you should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some other liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.
One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact amount.
Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom. Hope this will help you get the most value for your money.
DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!
WHERE TO BUY USA GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON
Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might even be good for us! The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should return the favor.
An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS.
Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis.
Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family, and my friends.
I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle Eastern oil.
These companies import Middle Eastern oil:
Shell........................... 205,742,000 barrels
Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels
Exxon/Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels
Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels
Amoco............................62,231,000 barrels
Citgo gas is from South America, from a Dictator who hates Americans. If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION! (oil is now $90 - $100 a barrel
Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:
Sunoco..................0 barrels
Conoco..................0 barrels
Sinclair..................0 barrels
BP/Phillips.............0 barrels
Hess......................0 barrels
ARC0.....................0 barrels
If you go to Sunoco.com , you will get a list of the station locations near you.
All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and each is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing.
But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of gas buyers. It's really simple to do.
Now, don't wimp out at this point.... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!
I'm sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)...and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) .. and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers !!!!!!! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted!
If it goes one level further, you guessed it ..... THREE HUND RED MILLION PEOPLE!!!
Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. How long would all that take?
I got my first hand experience with this gasoline distribution industry in the Spring/Summer of 1973. It was the result of OPEC retaliation for a US led Grain embargo action. We opened a series of Closed “Douglas” Service Stations throughout Oregon to gain access to a Department of Energy AVGAS restriction which for a short time became a total loss of Avgas at the end of the Olympic Pipeline Distribution Chain. In those days we had Red/Green/Blue and Yes - Purple Avgas. Our Oregon State Governor enacted what became known historically as “Odd/Even” refueling policy. Fortunately I had a friend who had a brother up the food change at Continental Oil Company who made a phone call.
This post brings back memories and potential for the months ahead. AOPA has just posted tips for conserving Avgas. Hope you find it of personal value.
John Cox
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windance(at)rockisland.co
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:46 am Post subject: Mogas / Avgas Trivia |
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why are you shouting at us. Font down for god's sake.
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AV8ORJWC
Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject: Mogas / Avgas Trivia |
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The post was cut from another form which would not allow a font reduction. Tried that! it is only one step better from years ago with the fax of a fax of a fax method. YMMV. One excellent counter to the post gave the urban legend version http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/gastips.asp
Because avgas fuel tanks are often “above ground level” and do not have the same temperature/volume calibration equipment at all locales you might refuel, I saw it only as thought provoking. Having to pump hundreds of thousands of gallons of Mogas just to get the Avgas we needed made for an interesting Summer and Fall of 1973. Whether you chose to reject the information is fine with me. Many hedge funds are driving the irrational spec market for $100+ per barrel crude prices. If the next government would open and flood the distribution system for a month at a time with strategic reserves. It could cut the legs out from under the speculators. The feds latest policy to loan the Hedge funds 3 billion just to speculate the price higher has me scratching my head.
Travel on Easter Sunday has always been a refueling crap shoot. Drive Safely.
John
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gerhardstein/Windance
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Subject: Re: Mogas / Avgas Trivia
why are you shouting at us. Font down for god's sake.
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deej(at)deej.net
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| Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:28 pm Post subject: Mogas / Avgas Trivia |
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<http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/gastips.asp>
<http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/saudigas.asp>
fyi,
-Dj
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ricksked(at)embarqmail.co
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| Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: Mogas / Avgas Trivia |
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So you think Venezuela? Yeah let's fund Chavez...that's another option...sorry...off topic, my bad, politics non gratus.
Rick S.
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