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Catz631(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:50 am Post subject: King Fox Tires

Good comeback Leonard ! Laughed my butt off ! Please excuse me guys. I am new to this list and to the airplane.I don't know alot of things about this aircraft,but I will. I have the original wheels(chrome) which I assume are Douglas one piece wheels.The shaved tires I have on them are ATV 20x7x8 and I would like to replace them as they are rather "long in the tooth" .I liked the look of the KingFox tires and now that I know that the Nanking tires are the same,I will order them.My only other questions are:

                              1. Will they fit the stock wheels with no problem?

                              2. Do I need tubes and will the stems shear off do to low pressure and

                                  tire/tube movement or is this a minor problem. Would a bead  adhesive as used in jeeps help. 

  

 I don't fly off rough ground.My airstrip is grass so I won't be in the bush.( except when the people at the airpark get in a pissing contest over who is going to mow the grass which happens often) Occasionally I fly off of pavement. And besides, these tires look cool!

  I am sending my elevator off to a small company to have an elevator trim installed. They will skin the elevator,reweld the tubing and install the trim servo/tab and then cover & paint back to silver. I am tired of the continuous back pressure required on approach. (lazy butt I guess)  Also my oil pressure gauge is 12 lbs off so it will go back to Westburg and finally I can install the Nanking tires.

  

                                           Dick Maddux

                                           Fox4-1200

                                           Pensacola,Fl                  



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Lynn Matteson

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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:38 am Post subject: King Fox Tires

Hi Dick-

I think you'll find that the Douglas wheels are not really chromed,  

but polished aluminum...I might be wrong, but my two pairs are both  

polished aluminum, and both one-piece.

By the way, Dick, I got my TruTrak ADI, and have it  

installed...thanks for your input several weeks ago.



Lynn Matteson

Grass Lake, Michigan

Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200

flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual

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On Mar 24, 2008, at 8:43 AM, Catz631(at)aol.com wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Good comeback Leonard ! Laughed my butt off ! Please excuse me  

 guys. I am new to this list and to the airplane.I don't know alot  

 of things about this aircraft,but I will. I have the original wheels 

 (chrome) which I assume are Douglas one piece wheels.The shaved  

 tires I have on them are ATV 20x7x8 and I would like to replace  

 them as they are rather "long in the tooth" .I liked the look of  

 the KingFox tires and now that I know that the Nanking tires are  

 the same,I will order them.My only other questions are:

                              1. Will they fit the stock wheels with  

 no problem?

                              2. Do I need tubes and will the stems  

 shear off do to low pressure and

                                  tire/tube movement or is this a  

 minor problem. Would a bead  adhesive as used in jeeps help.



 I don't fly off rough ground.My airstrip is grass so I won't be in  

 the bush.( except when the people at the airpark get in a pissing  

 contest over who is going to mow the grass which happens often)  

 Occasionally I fly off of pavement. And besides, these tires look  

 cool!

  I am sending my elevator off to a small company to have an  

 elevator trim installed. They will skin the elevator,reweld the  

 tubing and install the trim servo/tab and then cover & paint back  

 to silver. I am tired of the continuous back pressure required on  

 approach. (lazy butt I guess)  Also my oil pressure gauge is 12 lbs  

 off so it will go back to Westburg and finally I can install the  

 Nanking tires.



                                           Dick Maddux

                                           Fox4-1200

                                           Pensacola,Fl



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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:01 am Post subject: King Fox Tires

I have the Kingfox tires on my MK IV and they fit on the Douglas wheels just fine.  I don't have tubes in them, but I do have slow leaks that I can't get rid of if I run at rather low pressure.  Tubes might be a good idea, but there is the extra weight and $.   Jim Chuk  Avids,   Mn

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		    From: Catz631(at)aol.com

Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 08:43:43 -0400

Subject: Re: King Fox Tires

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

  Good comeback Leonard ! Laughed my butt off ! Please excuse me guys. I am new to this list and to the airplane.I don't know alot of things about this aircraft,but I will. I have the original wheels(chrome) which I assume are Douglas one piece wheels.The shaved tires I have on them are ATV 20x7x8 and I would like to replace them as they are rather "long in the tooth" .I liked the look of the KingFox tires and now that I know that the Nanking tires are the same,I will order them.My only other questions are:

                              1. Will they fit the stock wheels with no problem?

                              2. Do I need tubes and will the stems shear off do to low pressure and

                                  tire/tube movement or is this a minor problem. Would a bead  adhesive as used in jeeps help. 

 I don't fly off rough ground.My airstrip is grass so I won't be in the bush.( except when the people at the airpark get in a pissing contest over who is going to mow the grass which happens often) Occasionally I fly off of pavement. And besides, these tires look cool!

  I am sending my elevator off to a small company to have an elevator trim installed. They will skin the elevator,reweld the tubing and install the trim servo/tab and then cover & paint back to silver. I am tired of the continuous back pressure required on approach. (lazy butt I guess)  Also my oil pressure gauge is 12 lbs off so it will go back to Westburg and finally I can install the Nanking tires.

                                           Dick Maddux

                                           Fox4-1200

                                           Pensacola,Fl                  

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akflyer

Joined: 07 May 2007
Posts: 574
Location: Soldotna AK

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:44 am Post subject: Re: King Fox Tires

Grumpy Guss has a slow leak in one of his tires also when run at anything under 8 PSI.  I would think that using a bead sealant would take care of it.  If you are just landing on grass strips, with the occasional runway landing, you may want to stick with the higher pressure.  If you are running low pressure, you better be on your toes when you touch down on pavement or asphalt as they will grab and roll on you making for an interesting ride.  



  My first flight was in a PA-12 with 31" air streaks at 2 PSI.  My first landing was on asphalt.  I had to buy the instructor a new pair of jeans when that ride was over.  After that I stuck to grass strips and off airport landings with that plane.  Now it is not a big deal unless you have a cross wind to deal with.

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eskflyer

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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:52 am Post subject: Re: King Fox Tires

Grumpy Guss's  brothers kids dont play fair. lol .  



Douglas wheels are not chrome just aluminum. King fox tires are great on sand rocks grass and work great on the runway also. Yes mine have a small leak but i cannot find from where I used a bead sealant and still did not help. Just run around 6-8 pounds and you have a great off airport tire.

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dave

Joined: 22 Sep 2006
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: King Fox Tires

Wheels are spun aluminum. 

not one piece but 2 halves welded in centre .



Mine do not leak but i use high quality bead sealer. I did use dish soap and found that one would leak after a week or two. Go to ATV shop and get it done. I have my own tools for bead breaking and taking them off but if you don't you will take a while to change your tires. I can change two tires in under 30 mins including R & R from plane and de - mount and re mount.

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Catz631(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:09 am Post subject: King Fox Tires

Thanks for all the input on the KingFox tires ! I will get a set and try them out. I wanted the Alaska Bush 26 inch tires which I first saw at Sebring but they are beyond my budget.

                                                         Dick Maddux

                                                         Fox 4-1200

                                                          Pensacola,Fl



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kitfoxpilot(at)msn.com
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:42 am Post subject: King Fox Tires

Hi Dick,

  

    I think the company that made the King Fox tire went out of business! or just stopped making them because of lack of demand.

  

 Ray

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:06:03 -0400

Subject: Re: King Fox Tires

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  Thanks for all the input on the KingFox tires ! I will get a set and try them out. I wanted the Alaska Bush 26 inch tires which I first saw at Sebring but they are beyond my budget.

                                                         Dick Maddux

                                                         Fox 4-1200

                                                          Pensacola,Fl



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dave

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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: King Fox Tires

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		  Hi Dick, 



I think the company that made the King Fox tire went out of business! or just stopped making them because of lack of demand. 



Ray 

	




Not true at all, The cost to make the next order had increased dramatically and would raise the cost to 60 to 80$  per tire. 

So far Kevin has not ordered more. I bought alot of his remaining inventory and have shipped them all over the world in the last year.  Tire sold great for 40$ each. I have sold out not expect for my ones I saved for my self . 



So no lack of demand , just another tale of gosssip  -  like Rotax engines are junk as some of the public seem to think      <snicker>:

akflyer

Joined: 07 May 2007
Posts: 574
Location: Soldotna AK

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: King Fox Tires

uhh dave... last year Kevin (MIPPI) came on here and said he was closing the doors and selling out.  when they were gone they were gone.  I talked to him several times and he told me the very same thing on the phone.  he may have since had a change of heart but what Ray posted was a VERY TRUE statement.



http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=28275&highlight=mippi

dave

Joined: 22 Sep 2006
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: King Fox Tires

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		  We were considering the selling the large or the new 6" the retail cost have jumped to $85.00/tire, plus the increased shipping cost (fed Ex and USPS).  At this time with sales down 80% it is not worth the investment. to procecced.

I sincerely thankyou for your videos and your support.

 

Kevin Ridsdale

MiPPi Ultralights

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That is one of the  reasons why he was  not ordering again more tires.  Cost for 8 " wheel was the same .  I could sell 500 more tires this year easy. If I got them .  Internet business is booming !!

akflyer

Joined: 07 May 2007
Posts: 574
Location: Soldotna AK

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: King Fox Tires

I was reading the supplier going out of buss. part and you were reading the lack of demand part... we are all right in our own way lol.



At ANY rate, if the demand is so great then get them straight from the manufacture that we posted and keep re-selling them.

dave

Joined: 22 Sep 2006
Posts: 1382

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: King Fox Tires

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		  At ANY rate, if the demand is so great then get them straight from the manufacture that we posted and keep re-selling them.

	




never tried them and I asked for comparison,  never got any conclusive proof on the others. 



I got mine and don;t need any others right now. If you know them have them contact me .



thanks

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