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Mark Sletten
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Location: St. Jacob, IL (Near St. Louis, MO)
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 Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:29 am Post subject: LOG BOOKS |
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bert murillo said:
"GETTING IN TO THEIR PLANES, ONE WAS A CHEROKEE 140. most recent... with no
shoes, no shirt... what a sight...."
Did he have long hair too -- perhaps parted down the middle? Did he drink
orange soda and smoke Cool cigarettes (a sure sign of a druggie when I was
in the military)? He probably lies, cheats, steals, his feet stink and he
doesn't love Jesus...
C'mon Bert; if you feel qualified to pass judgment on someone else's
professionalism, how about you at least use criterion that applies to the
subject...
Regards,
Mark Sletten
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acepilot(at)bloomer.net
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:37 am Post subject: LOG BOOKS |
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I always keep a silk tie in the baggage compartment just in case 
Scott
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Mark Sletten wrote:
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bert murillo said:
"GETTING IN TO THEIR PLANES, ONE WAS A CHEROKEE 140. most recent... with no
shoes, no shirt... what a sight...."
Did he have long hair too -- perhaps parted down the middle? Did he drink
orange soda and smoke Cool cigarettes (a sure sign of a druggie when I was
in the military)? He probably lies, cheats, steals, his feet stink and he
doesn't love Jesus...
C'mon Bert; if you feel qualified to pass judgment on someone else's
professionalism, how about you at least use criterion that applies to the
subject...
Regards,
Mark Sletten
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Scott
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Flying Corben Junior Ace - Building RV-4
Gotta Fly or Gonna Die
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jsflyrv(at)verizon.net
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:10 am Post subject: LOG BOOKS |
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hehe, cannot resist Mark,
"Did he drink orange soda and smoke Cool cigarettes (a sure sign of a druggie when I was
in the military)?"
I love Orange soda and drank it in Vietnam I also was known to smoke KOOL
cigarettes there, BUT was never a "druggie" so seems you might be passing
judgment the same way you say Bert is???? I could be wrong, I know I was wrong one
time when I thought I was wrong but wasn't. 
All in fun
Jerry
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Mark Sletten wrote:
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bert murillo said:
"GETTING IN TO THEIR PLANES, ONE WAS A CHEROKEE 140. most recent... with no
shoes, no shirt... what a sight...."
Did he have long hair too -- perhaps parted down the middle? Did he drink
orange soda and smoke Cool cigarettes (a sure sign of a druggie when I was
in the military)? He probably lies, cheats, steals, his feet stink and he
doesn't love Jesus...
C'mon Bert; if you feel qualified to pass judgment on someone else's
professionalism, how about you at least use criterion that applies to the
subject...
Regards,
Mark Sletten
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n616tb(at)btsapps.com
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:03 am Post subject: LOG BOOKS |
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Bert,
It is a little frustrating when one also assumes just because some believe
an AD can't apply to an experimental they would sooner be dangerous,
reckless, and stupid causing all of general aviation to be the most
dangerous.
I personally have only suggested that if I don't want to use an aviation
product in my "Experimental" airplane I am free to use something non
aviation. This would obviously mean while one product is scrutinized and
the other isn't it makes no sense to apply them at all as anything other
than advisory.
What it doesn't mean is if one chooses to install an aviation product and an
AD is issued they would just ignore it. My Experimental was built by me and
is inspected by me for my safety. I did use aviation products wherever I
could and if I become aware of an AD on a product it would be my own
foolishness to not look at it with a critical eye and make my own choice as
to how to deal with it. Maybe even determine it isn't a concern for me.
However, suggesting the AD is applicable only means if I don't think it is a
problem I could just remove that part and fly with something non aviation;
problem solved as it will never be an issue again. The bottom line is it is
my choice just like it was my choice to put it in the airplane in the first
place.
Painting all our opinions with a broad brush and saying we are the cause for
low safety records of GA is simply a bit too much. Nobody on this list
built an airplane because they wanted to be stupid and reckless. This is
just my opinion of course and I respect yours except for the part where you
condemn some of us.
Tim
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ronlee(at)pcisys.net
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:35 am Post subject: LOG BOOKS |
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| Quote: | Painting all our opinions with a broad brush and saying we are the cause
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low safety records of GA is simply a bit too much. Nobody on this list
built an airplane because they wanted to be stupid and reckless. This is
just my opinion of course and I respect yours except for the part where
you
condemn some of us.
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Tim, we ARE the cause of our poor safety record. From using questionable
"non-aviation" items, to ignoring problems during the flight test period, to
poor judgment when flying.
Frankly it is time for the RV community to develop a safety program that
highlights the problem areas with the goal of reducing our accident rate
by as much as 25-50% in the next five years.
Ron Lee
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n616tb(at)btsapps.com
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:30 am Post subject: LOG BOOKS |
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I agree Ron, but what was said was not "Our safety record" but "General
Aviation" Plus my concern is suggesting we are non-safety oriented just
because we have a different opinion about how AD's should be applied when
applying them obviously opens a huge can of worms on how to apply them.
Plus we really don't have to comply as we could just remove it. It also
isn't about safety because AD's do not really create safety. Saying so is
likened to saying I don't need to ever deal with anything on my airplane
unless an AD comes out. That would be rubbish. We have to create our own
safety regardless of any AD's. We are all responsible for that differently
in our different creations. Certified a/c are a completely different animal
because they are all built off an assembly line and built the same with the
same components. Also just because a component in one application proves to
be a problem doesn't mean it would be a problem when installed in completely
different type aircraft; ie: experimental. We have to look at all the data
ourselves and decide what is relevant and what is not.
This is just my opinion, so I respect yours and agree with what you said. I
just didn't agree with Ron's broad statements.
Tim
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AV8ORJWC
Joined: 13 Jul 2006
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Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:02 am Post subject: LOG BOOKS |
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Open and meaningful discussion can do that.
John Cox
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