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andrew(at)oc384.net
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:21 am Post subject: Used RV buying best practices?

I think a set of Best Practices for used RV pre-buy/purchasing would be helpful.  Has anything like this been compiled before? I’m thinking about:  

   

                Indicators of good construction (with photos)  

                Indicators of poor construction (with photos)  

                What to look for in the logs (good and bad)  

                What tests to do?  (avionics, engine, etc)  

Should an Oil Analysis be done?  

What quirks to be aware of between models…  

   

I think something like this would be very helpful to any non-A&P shopping for a used RV.  

   

-Andrew  

   

                  

   

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mrobert569(at)hotmail.com
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:15 pm Post subject: Used RV buying best practices?

Best advice I can think of.....Have someone who built one ( and still has it so you can see it) go with you to inspect it.

 Mike Robertson

 Das Fed

 Repeat offender



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To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Used RV buying best practices?

Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 10:17:18 -0500



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I think a set of Best Practices for used RV pre-buy/purchasing would be helpful.  Has anything like this been compiled before? I’m thinking about: 

  

                Indicators of good construction (with photos) 

                Indicators of poor construction (with photos) 

                What to look for in the logs (good and bad) 

                What tests to do?  (avionics, engine, etc) 

Should an Oil Analysis be done? 

What quirks to be aware of between models… 

  

I think something like this would be very helpful to any non-A&P shopping for a used RV. 

  

-Andrew 

  

                 

 

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dreel(at)cox.net
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:20 am Post subject: Used RV buying best practices?

I think your approach is useful Andrew when you  look to buy a used RV.  Though some may have been flown little, they may  have been built with used engines and components and made primarily to  sell.  In other cases, such as my RV-8A, the aircraft was made from all new  components, flown only 50 hours, and not made to sell but being sold because my  health has deteriorated.  So you're concerns are guaranteed to be  satisfied & you just need to look and take a flight.  So, there's a big  swing between possibilities depending on how the plane got to the sale  market.  Good luck.

  

 Dave Reel

  

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deanpichon(at)msn.com
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:51 am Post subject: Used RV buying best practices?

This is an excellent endeavor and would likely be useful to many potential buyers.  I have a -4 and can speak better about this model than the others so I will offer a few things.  (There are obviously many things to look for, but these are some of the common weak points/issues in -4's and probably other models as well.)

  

  Condition of the cowl attachment features (hinges with broken eyelets, fasteners in elongated holes, etc.) 
Are there wrinkles in the firewall? (Suggesting hard landing(s)) 
Are the weldments behind the firewall the later (thicker) versions (Photos and dimensions of both versions would be useful) 
Asymmeterical main gear suggesting one may have been bent 
Cracks around rivets in elevators and rudder (Was the rudder constructed with 0.016 or 0.20 skin?) 
Does the aircraft have the long or short gear?  Longer is newer I'm sure others can add many more.

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To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Used RV buying best practices?

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I think a set of Best Practices for used RV pre-buy/purchasing would be helpful.  Has anything like this been compiled before? I’m thinking about: 

  

                Indicators of good construction (with photos) 

                Indicators of poor construction (with photos) 

                What to look for in the logs (good and bad) 

                What tests to do?  (avionics, engine, etc) 

Should an Oil Analysis be done? 

What quirks to be aware of between models… 

  

I think something like this would be very helpful to any non-A&P shopping for a used RV. 

  

-Andrew 

  

                 

 

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panamared5(at)brier.net
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:36 am Post subject: Used RV buying best practices?

At 09:17 AM 4/2/08, you wrote:

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		  I think a set of Best Practices for used RV pre-buy/purchasing would 

be helpful.  Has anything like this been compiled before? I'm thinking about:


	


It would seem to me that the RV world is in a transisition where a 

lot of RV owners are now or will be non builders.  As we see more non 

builders as RV owners, this issue of how well is an RV built will 

increasingly become more and more important.

In my opinion the best way(s) to learn how to inspect an RV:

1.  Build an RV or metal airplane, or

2.  Build a non metal airplane, or

3.  Read the archives, or



4.  Read the Bible that I used to build my RV, "AC 

43.13-1B  Acceptable Methods, Techniques, and Practices,   Aircraft 

Inspection and Repair."



The AC covers all aspects of building, inspection and aircraft 

repair.  It even has pictures, drawings, diagrams, tables etc.



There is nothing special about how an RV is built.  It uses standard 

techniques and practices that would be the same for a Mustang II or 

any of the RV series aircraft.



Bob

RV6 "Wicked Witch of the West"

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tedd(at)vansairforce.org
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:04 am Post subject: Used RV buying best practices?

On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, Andrew M wrote:



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		   I think a set of Best Practices for used RV pre-buy/purchasing would be

 helpful.


	


That's a great idea for the Matronics wiki.  I've started a page with the

suggestions from this thread.



<http://wiki.matronics.com/wiki/index.php/Buying_a_Used_RV>



I've also added a link to that page from the main RV page.



<http://wiki.matronics.com/wiki/index.php/RV>



Tedd McHenry

Surrey, BC

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panhandler1956

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Location: Columbus, OH

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: Used RV buying best practices?

Good idea Tedd.

I added a couple of points to the wiki:

vans service bulletins and sloshed fuel tanks

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