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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:36 am Post subject: P-Mag!

I stopped by the E-Mag guys today and they now have a 6-cylinder version on display.  They said they have production units and will be doing testing.  They hope to be shipping by Oshkosh time and are taking no-deposit waiting list orders via e-mail.  I told them they can expect to sell a lot of them.  I think they said it will be about $1,275 for the mag without the harness.



 Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)

Cell: 352-427-0285

Fax: 815-377-3694



 

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msausen

Joined: 25 Oct 2007
Posts: 559
Location: Appleton, WI USA

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:02 am Post subject: P-Mag!

Anybody know if they have worked out the bugs in their 4cyl models yet.  History has been very hit and miss on those.  

   

Michael  

       

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint

 Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 12:31 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: P-Mag!  

  

  

   

I stopped by the E-Mag guys today and they now have a 6-cylinder version on display.  They said they have production units and will be doing testing.  They hope to be shipping by Oshkosh time and are taking no-deposit waiting list orders via e-mail.  I told them they can expect to sell a lot of them.  I think they said it will be about $1,275 for the mag without the harness.    

   

          

Jesse Saint  

    

Saint Aviation, Inc.  

    

jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)  

    

Cell: 352-427-0285  

    

Fax: 815-377-3694  

  

  

  

   

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Nick Leonard

Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Posts: 35
Location: Sacramento, CA

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: P-Mag!

Jesse,



Can you share any experiences you have had with the PMags?  Put any in your planes?  Any recent problems that you are aware of?



Thanks,



Nick

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msausen

Joined: 25 Oct 2007
Posts: 559
Location: Appleton, WI USA

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: P-Mag!

I think Jesse only builds RV-10's so I doubt it.  They are just now releasing their 6cyl models so I don't think there have been any significant hours built up to give a good idea on their MTBF.  If you search various archives of the 4cyl homebuilts you will find a lot's of references from one extreme to the other.  Overall they seem to have an excellent idea but have been plagued with lots of gremlins in their design.  Many people have had no problems but it seems an equal number of people have had consistent problems.



  I for one really hope they get all their problems licked and end up with a solid product.  Lots of potential there and they seem to e steadily improving.



Michael



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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
Guest

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:46 pm Post subject: P-Mag!

The only thing I know about them is that Barrett told me it is the  

only electronic ignition that he would recommend.  Beyond that, I have  

no research or first hand experience of any kind.  I have been very  

eagerly awaiting the release of the 6-cyl version to see how they do,  

especially since the lightspeed is a much more complicated installation.



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Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com

Cell: 352-427-0285

Fax: 815-377-3694



On Apr 8, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Nick Leonard wrote:

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 Jesse,



 Can you share any experiences you have had with the PMags?  Put any  

 in your planes?  Any recent problems that you are aware of?



 Thanks,



 Nick



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marcausman

Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Posts: 70

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:41 am Post subject: Re: P-Mag!

I've had them for about 320 hours on my RV-7. Early on I had two failures and a third (which was my fault, you have to be very careful making the ignition wires).  So I replaced one with a slick mag.  The difference between the slick mag and the p-mag are very obvious when running the engine on only one mag (for testing, run-up etc.). Along the way, Brad and Tom were very helpful. 



More importantly, though, the last 160 hours or so have been flawless. So I can only deduce that they've worked out the bugs, at least based on my experience. If and when I build an RV-10 I'll put them on for sure.

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LarryRosen

Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 415
Location: Medford, NJ

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:43 am Post subject: P-Mag!

Have they released a Lyc 6 cylinder model?  I know they have been 

developing one.  Maybe one of you at Sun-N-Fun could fill us in.  Thye 

are in building D space #93.

Larry



RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:

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   I think Jesse only builds RV-10's so I doubt it.  They are just now releasing their 6cyl models so I don't think there have been any significant hours built up to give a good idea on their MTBF.  If you search various archives of the 4cyl homebuilts you will find a lot's of references from one extreme to the other.  Overall they seem to have an excellent idea but have been plagued with lots of gremlins in their design.  Many people have had no problems but it seems an equal number of people have had consistent problems.



   I for one really hope they get all their problems licked and end up with a solid product.  Lots of potential there and they seem to e steadily improving.



 Michael



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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
Guest

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: P-Mag!

In my first report I mentioned that they have a 6-cyl version in their  

booth.  They said they should be shipping by Oshkosh.  Take that for  

what it's worth in time frame promises.



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Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com

Cell: 352-427-0285

Fax: 815-377-3694



On Apr 9, 2008, at 1:40 PM, Larry Rosen wrote:

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 Have they released a Lyc 6 cylinder model?  I know they have been  

 developing one.  Maybe one of you at Sun-N-Fun could fill us in.   

 Thye are in building D space #93.

 Larry



 RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:

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>  I think Jesse only builds RV-10's so I doubt it.  They are just  

> now releasing their 6cyl models so I don't think there have been  

> any significant hours built up to give a good idea on their MTBF.   

> If you search various archives of the 4cyl homebuilts you will find  

> a lot's of references from one extreme to the other.  Overall they  

> seem to have an excellent idea but have been plagued with lots of  

> gremlins in their design.  Many people have had no problems but it  

> seems an equal number of people have had consistent problems.

>

>  I for one really hope they get all their problems licked and end  

> up with a solid product.  Lots of potential there and they seem to  

> e steadily improving.

>

> Michael

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thane

Joined: 27 Nov 2006
Posts: 56

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:22 pm Post subject: P-Mag!

I have first hand knowledge that they have  not.  My friend has them in his RV-9.  And on the way down to SNF, one  would not stay timed, causing high CHT.  No one knows exactly why they have  issues; software? heat? who knows.

  

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msausen

Joined: 25 Oct 2007
Posts: 559
Location: Appleton, WI USA

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:52 pm Post subject: P-Mag!

One of the things I had heard in the past was that they were having issues because the electronics in the mags did not like the heat.  Makes sense I guess as most don’t.  I could see this leading to the very random failures they were seeing.  No idea if this still would be the case or if they finally licked it.  

   

Michael  

       

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Thane States

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I have first hand knowledge that they have not.  My friend has them in his RV-9.  And on the way down to SNF, one would not stay timed, causing high CHT.  No one knows exactly why they have issues; software? heat? who knows.  

    

   

    

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From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen) (rvbuilder(at)sausen.net)   

    

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)   

    

Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:59 PM  

    

Subject: RE: RV10-List: P-Mag!  

    

   

  

Anybody know if they have worked out the bugs in their 4cyl models yet.  History has been very hit and miss on those.  

   

Michael  

       

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint

 Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 12:31 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)

 Subject: P-Mag!  

  

  

   

I stopped by the E-Mag guys today and they now have a 6-cylinder version on display.  They said they have production units and will be doing testing.  They hope to be shipping by Oshkosh time and are taking no-deposit waiting list orders via e-mail.  I told them they can expect to sell a lot of them.  I think they said it will be about $1,275 for the mag without the harness.    

   

          

Jesse Saint  

    

Saint Aviation, Inc.  

    

jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)  

    

Cell: 352-427-0285  

    

Fax: 815-377-3694  

  

  

  

   

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