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apilot2(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject: NVFR avionics help

Substitute SL30 for the SL40. Gives you TSO VOR and ILS. Otherwise, for more space, but older technology, you could put used KX155 or Mk12D in panel. The SL30 should fit in same space, maybe same tray as SL40.



 On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Chris and Susie McGough <VHMUM(at)bigpond.com (VHMUM(at)bigpond.com)> wrote:

[quote]        Guys I have decided to change my 10 to NVFR and was  wondering if anyone had some ideas on an easy way to upgrade.

  

 My current setup is

  

 DYNON D180

 Garmin 327 Transponder

 SL40 Radio 

 Garmin 296 GPS   

 Vertical card compass

 Backup ALT and ASI

 Intercom

  

 So my question is what would be the simplest way to  upgrade to NVFR . The Australian regs say you must have a TSO GPS or VOR or  ADF.

  

 Should I just get a new GPS?

  

 regards Chris

  

  

  

  

  

  

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coop85(at)cableone.net
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:56 pm Post subject: NVFR avionics help

Chris,  

     I have a Garmin 480 and absolutely love it.  Since Garmin announced they would no longer produce it you might be able to find them for a better deal before the supply runs out.  I’m just speculating but I suspect a number of folks will shy away from them out of support concerns.  With the 480 (or 430 or 530) you’d have GPS and VOR available.  

   

Marcus  

       

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris and Susie McGough

 Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:21 PM

 To: RVs_in_Aus(at)yahoogroups.com.au

 Subject: NVFR avionics help  

  

  

     

Guys I have decided to change my 10 to NVFR and was wondering if anyone had some ideas on an easy way to upgrade.  

    

   

    

My current setup is  

    

   

    

DYNON D180  

    

Garmin 327 Transponder  

    

SL40 Radio   

    

Garmin 296 GPS     

    

Vertical card compass  

    

Backup ALT and ASI  

    

Intercom  

    

   

    

So my question is what would be the simplest way to upgrade to NVFR . The Australian regs say you must have a TSO GPS or VOR or ADF.  

    

   

    

Should I just get a new GPS?  

    

   

    

regards Chris  

    

   

    

   

    

   

    

   

    

   

    

   

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ron.mcgann(at)baesystems.
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject: NVFR avionics help

Does the inbuilt CDI capability on the 430 and/or SL-30  meet the VOR indication/OBS requirement, or do you need a separate CDI/OBS (eg  GI-106 or MD-200 etc)?

  

 cheers,

 Ron



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		           From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com    [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus    Cooper

Sent: Wednesday, 9 April 2008 9:24 AM

To:    rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: NVFR avionics    help

   

      

Chris,   

        I have a Garmin 480 and absolutely love it.  Since Garmin announced they    would no longer produce it you might be able to find them for a better deal    before the supply runs out.  I’m just speculating but I suspect a number    of folks will shy away from them out of support concerns.  With the 480    (or 430 or 530) you’d have GPS and VOR available.   

    

Marcus   

          

From:    owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com    [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris and    Susie McGough

Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:21 PM

To:    RVs_in_Aus(at)yahoogroups.com.au

Subject: NVFR avionics    help



   

       

Guys I have decided    to change my 10 to NVFR and was wondering if anyone had some ideas on an easy    way to upgrade.

      

 

      

My current setup    is

      

 

      

DYNON    D180

      

Garmin 327    Transponder

      

SL40 Radio    

      

Garmin 296    GPS   

      

Vertical card    compass

      

Backup ALT and    ASI

      

Intercom

      

 

      

So my question is    what would be the simplest way to upgrade to NVFR . The Australian regs say    you must have a TSO GPS or VOR or ADF.

      

 

      

Should I just get a    new GPS?

      

 

      

regards    Chris

      

 

      

 

      

 

      

 

      

 

      

 

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n212pj(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: NVFR avionics help

Might want to think about upgrading your SL40 to an SL30  and adding a CDI, such as the GI-102A.  Upgrade your 294 to a 496 for  terrain, weather.  Of course you'll have nav lights, landing light,  strobes, plus panel lights and overhead map reading lights.  Basically,  night VFR should be capable of "light" or "rudimentary" IFR.  The problem  with NVFR is that you can easily get into an IFR environment (unseen clouds that  you enter, loss of a horizon due to pitch black seas or landscape).  I love  flying at night, but have found that since going from the well lit Northeastern  US to the relative darkness of the Northwest US, night flying has a whole new  meaning.  I wouldn't do it where I am located now without being IFR rated  and having an IFR panel.  Not unless it was clear skies and city  lights.  

  

 John



 [quote]         From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com    [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris and    Susie McGough

Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 4:21 PM

To:    RVs_in_Aus(at)yahoogroups.com.au

Subject: NVFR avionics    help

   

   Guys I have decided to change my 10 to NVFR and    was wondering if anyone had some ideas on an easy way to upgrade.

    

   My current setup is

    

   DYNON D180

   Garmin 327 Transponder

   SL40 Radio 

   Garmin 296 GPS   

   Vertical card compass

   Backup ALT and ASI

   Intercom

    

   So my question is what would be the simplest way    to upgrade to NVFR . The Australian regs say you must have a TSO GPS or VOR or    ADF.

    

   Should I just get a new GPS?

    

   regards Chris

    

    

    

    

    

    

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VHMUM(at)bigpond.com
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: NVFR avionics help

Thanks John I am in Australia  and are only  doing the NVfR as I am studying commercial Pilot licence and NVFR is helpful.  

 I was thinking I could just swap the radio to SL 30  and plug into Dynon?

 The 296 has terrain and the weather feature is not  available in Australia

  

 I have all lights etc it just the avionics   

  

 Chris

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n212pj(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject: NVFR avionics help

You might want the SL30 hooked to both the Dynon and a CDI,  incase the Dynon goes away you could switch over.  Or, get a battery backup  for the Dynon.  



 [quote]         From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com    [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris and    Susie McGough

Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 5:27 PM

To:    rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: NVFR avionics    help

   

   Thanks John I am in Australia  and are only    doing the NVfR as I am studying commercial Pilot licence and NVFR is helpful.    

   I was thinking I could just swap the radio to SL    30 and plug into Dynon?

   The 296 has terrain and the weather feature is    not available in Australia

    

   I have all lights etc it just the avionics     

    

   Chris

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dlm46007(at)cox.net
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: NVFR avionics help

swap the sl40 for an sl30 you then have a tsoed vor/loc/gs.  the utput can be shownon the Dynon

   From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris and  Susie McGough

Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 4:21 PM

To:  RVs_in_Aus(at)yahoogroups.com.au

Subject: NVFR avionics  help

 Guys I have decided to change my 10 to NVFR and was  wondering if anyone had some ideas on an easy way to upgrade.

 My current setup is

 DYNON D180

 Garmin 327 Transponder

 SL40 Radio 

 Garmin 296 GPS   

 Vertical card compass

 Backup ALT and ASI

 Intercom

 So my question is what would be the simplest way to  upgrade to NVFR . The Australian regs say you must have a TSO GPS or VOR or  ADF.

 Should I just get a new GPS?

 regards Chris

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dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 454
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:58 pm Post subject: NVFR avionics help

Garmin GNC 300 XL (?) comes to mind as a swap for the SL40. It is a great little IFR GPS/Comm with moving map. They are pretty inexpensive as well.



David Maib

40559

 

On Tuesday, April 08, 2008, at 06:31PM, "Chris and Susie McGough" <VHMUM(at)bigpond.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  Guys I have decided to change my 10 to NVFR and was wondering if anyone had some ideas on an easy way to upgrade.



My current setup is



DYNON D180

Garmin 327 Transponder

SL40 Radio 

Garmin 296 GPS   

Vertical card compass

Backup ALT and ASI

Intercom



So my question is what would be the simplest way to upgrade to NVFR . The Australian regs say you must have a TSO GPS or VOR or ADF.



Should I just get a new GPS?



regards Chris

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RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL

AirMike

Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Posts: 514
Location: Nevada

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:39 pm Post subject: NVFR avionics help

Obviously you are going through the time consuming process of panel planning. After beating around the bush for 2 months, I went with the SL30 as most of the threads here also indicate. I tried for a long time to save the extra two thousand plus dollars on the SL40 (radio only). I finally realized that it was false economy. Yes(Ron) you do need the additional CDI and Glide slope lights. The AFS3500 has (built in) the CDI indicators for guidance but you also need an audio panel for the Marker Beacon lights. Yes that is another $1000. My panel is being finished by the very nice folks at Aerotronics in Billings, MT. While I have not yet received the panel, I am very impressed with the excellent customer interaction and pro-active approach that Aerotronic takes. I got three bids on my panel, but went with them on my intuition and the advice of a member of the EAA advisory panel. I will give another report after I P/U the panel later this month. This is my thinking that this a a serous NVFR panel and will get me out of trouble if caught in IFR conditions. It seem to be a very cost effective setup. Probably could save more with Dynon



AFS3500  (1x)

Garmin SL30 Nav/Com

Garmin 327  Mode "C" Transponder

Garmin 340 Audio

Garmin 496

Digiflight II VS

Trutrak B/U ADI  Backup  2.25"

UMA Altimeter     Backup   2.25"

UMA A/S             Backup    2.25"

Xaon XRX           TCAS  Beta (talks to 496)

PAI Vertical Card compass

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VHMUM(at)bigpond.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:17 pm Post subject: NVFR avionics help

Mike ....my 10 is just about ready to fly and as per email you can see my 

current setup and wanted to go from there.



thanks anyway  regards Chris

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rj_todd(at)yahoo.co.uk
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:52 am Post subject: NVFR avionics help

Hi Chris,



You'll need to replace (or add to) the SL-40 with an SL-30 which will give you a TSO'd VOR/LOC/GS. To this you will have to add an MD200 series CDI to maintain the TSO.



Why don't you contact Jake (can't find his e-mail address at the moment) to confirm that you don't need anything else avionics wise?  Also why noit try the Oz RV Yahoo group site?



Looking forward to hearing about the first flight - Spring is in the air!



Rodger

--- On Wed, 9/4/08, Chris and Susie McGough <VHMUM(at)bigpond.com> wrote:



[quote] From: Chris and Susie McGough <VHMUM(at)bigpond.com>

 Subject: Re: Re: NVFR avionics help

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Date: Wednesday, 9 April, 2008, 8:13 AM

 

 McGough" <VHMUM(at)bigpond.com>

 

 Mike ....my 10 is just about ready to fly and as per email

 you can see my 

 current setup and wanted to go from there.

 

 thanks anyway  regards Chris

 

 

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GRANSCOTT(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:42 am Post subject: NVFR avionics help

KX 155 with a CDI would be pretty inexpensive compared to a TSO'd GPS and  may give you good  situational and back  up...



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