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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:04 am    Post subject: 701/801 List Reply with quote

Matt Dralle the creator.......if you can here me......PLEASE create a 701/801 list....one where we can exchange building tips and experience. We promise not to bicker (except about vg's.)
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:26 am    Post subject: Re: 701/801 List Reply with quote

Yes, please do

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:41 am    Post subject: Re: 701/801 List Reply with quote

I second that!

Although there has been lots of great help here, for the last few months there really has not been much on building. Important issues none the less, but not really about the 701 or 801.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:11 am    Post subject: 701/801 List Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:42 am    Post subject: 701/801 List Reply with quote

I'll vote for that! Based on the amount of 'watermelon conversation' appearing on this list for the last few months, I think a separate 701/801 list is in order.

Larry Wood

(N701LW still aborning )

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:44 am    Post subject: 701/801 List Reply with quote

I also am a little overwhelmed at times by the 601
talk on this list. A combination of it being the most
popular Zenith model and it's builders being the most
vocal. I don't fault anyone for this but that is the
way it is.

As for a STOL only list, that sort of already exists.
There is the 701/801 Yahoo group. While it would be
nice to have a Matronics list specifically for the
STOL series, I'm not sure it would be practical.

Anyone interested can get there at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/701builders/

Doug MacDonald
CH-701 Scratch Builder
NW Ontario, Canada

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I second that!

Although there has been lots of great help here, for
the last few months there really has not been much
on building. Important issues none the less, but not
really about the 701 or 801.
My 2.5 cents.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:51 am    Post subject: Re: 701/801 List Reply with quote

I think a 701/801 list is a great idea.

How about it----Matt

Rick


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:52 am    Post subject: 701/801 List Reply with quote

True enough, been a member there for yrs, no name calling ,cursing, lots
of info passed back and forth without a lot of drama. If all the 701 /801
builders-fliers moved over there in mass we can build airplanes instead of
................... you fill in the blanks.
While I DO get a nugget from this list every so often (and hope I contribute
one every now and then) they are starting to get lost in the clutter of the
MANY folks that shoot only to hear the gun go off.
John

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:55 am    Post subject: 701/801 List Reply with quote

Zenith Listers,

Okay, "uncle"... Smile I'll create a new 601 specific and a new 701/801 specific Zenith list. Give me a few days to get it done. Its a fair amount of work and takes about a day to get everything updated and working. I'll post a follow up when they're ready to go.

Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin

At 08:09 AM 4/11/2008 Friday, you wrote:
Quote:
This was put up for a vote a few years ago and voted down. I voted against it, I have since changed my mind. About the only thing a 601 and 701/801 have in common is the name Zenith. They are totally two different type airplanes built for absolute different purposes. It makes no logic to lump them together in the same list. A separate 701/801 list would be best. In fact I would not be opposed to inviting (like) STOL aircraft builders to join in, such as the Savannah. Why not? After all this is supposed to be for sharing and learning things of common interest. In my opinion the 601 does fit this communally and I have very little interest in it.

Take care, LRM <http://www.skyhawg.com>www.skyhawg.com

[quote]From: <mailto:Elwood140(at)aol.com>Elwood140(at)aol.com
To: <mailto:zenith-list(at)matronics.com>zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: Re: 701/801 List

I'll vote for that! Based on the amount of 'watermelon conversation' appearing on this list for the last few months, I think a separate 701/801 list is in order.

Larry Wood

(N701LW still aborning )

In a message dated 4/11/2008 8:12:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time, <mailto:jnbolding1(at)teleshare.net>jnbolding1(at)teleshare.net writes:


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:03 am    Post subject: 701/801 List Reply with quote

Thanks Matt!

Larry Wood

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In a message dated 4/11/2008 10:57:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time, dralle(at)matronics.com writes:
[quote]--> Zenith-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Zenith Listers,

Okay, "uncle"... Smile I'll create a new 601 specific and a new 701/801 specific Zenith list. Give me a few days to get it done. Its a fair amount of work and takes about a day to get everything updated and working. I'll post a follow up when they're ready to go.

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At 08:09 AM 4/11/2008 Friday, you wrote:
Quote:
This was put up for a vote a few years ago and voted down. I voted against it, I have since changed my mind. About the only thing a 601 and 701/801 have in common is the name Zenith. They are totally two different type airplanes built for absolute different purposes. It makes no logic to lump them together in the same list. A separate 701/801 list would be best. In fact I would not be opposed to inviting (like) STOL aircraft builders to join in, such as the Savannah. Why not? After all this is supposed to be for sharing and learning things of common interest. In my opinion the 601 does fit this communally and I have very little interest in it.

Take care, LRM <http://www.skyhawg.com>www.skyhawg.com

[quote]From: <mailto:Elwood140(at)aol.com>Elwood140(at)aol.com
To: <mailto:zenith-list(at)matronics.com>zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 701/801 List

I'll vote for that! Based on the amount of 'watermelon conversation' appearing on this list for the last few months, I think a separate 701/801 list is in order.

Larry Wood

(N701LW still aborning )

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:14 am    Post subject: 701/801 List Reply with quote

THANK YOU MATT !!!!!



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:38 am    Post subject: 701/801 List Reply with quote

Thank you Matt... it's about time

Ron Leclerc
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:-{
:-{ Zenith Listers,
:-{
:-{ Okay, "uncle"... Smile I'll create a new 601 specific and a new
:-{ 701/801 specific Zenith list. Give me a few days to get it done.
:-{ Its a fair amount of work and takes about a day to get
:-{ everything updated and working. I'll post a follow up when
:-{ they're ready to go.
:-{
:-{ Matt Dralle
:-{ Matronics Email List Admin
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:-{ At 08:09 AM 4/11/2008 Friday, you wrote:
:-{:-{ This was put up for a vote a few years ago and voted down. I
:-{:-{ voted against it, I have since changed my mind. About the
:-{:-{ only thing a 601 and 701/801 have in common is the name
:-{:-{ Zenith. They are totally two different type airplanes built
:-{:-{ for absolute different purposes. It makes no logic to lump
:-{:-{ them together in the same list. A separate 701/801 list
:-{:-{ would be best. In fact I would not be opposed to inviting
:-{:-{ (like) STOL aircraft builders to join in, such as the
:-{:-{ Savannah. Why not? After all this is supposed to be for
:-{:-{ sharing and learning things of common interest. In my opinion
:-{:-{ the 601 does fit this communally and I have very little
:-{:-{ interest in it.
:-{:-{
:-{:-{ Take care, LRM www.skyhawg.com
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:-{:-{ From: Elwood140(at)aol.com To:
:-{:-{ zenith-list(at)matronics.com
:-{:-{ Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:38 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-
:-{:-{ List: Re: 701/801 List
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:-{:-{ I'll vote for that! Based on the amount of 'watermelon
:-{:-{ conversation' appearing on this list for the last few months,
:-{:-{ I think a separate 701/801 list is in order.
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:-{:-{ Larry Wood
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:-{:-{ (N701LW still aborning )
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:-{:-{ In a message dated 4/11/2008 8:12:52 A.M. Central Daylight
:-{:-{ Time,
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:12 am    Post subject: 701/801 List Reply with quote

Hello Listers & Matt:

I am against splitting the list, even at the height of controversy there really isn't enough traffic to overwhem my delete key.

I am an on again off again 701 plans builder.

What the two models have in common on this list is the wonderful advise from the various builders.

Everyone with any substance on this list who subscribes to a new list will continue on the 601 just to benefit from, for example, Larry MacFarland's (601 builder) and other extert builder's advice.

I know I will.

I have gladly lent my tooling (701) to several 601 builders who have all taken great care in use and shipping. these are the people who count.

If one really thinks this through there is a great amount of "overlap" between the models.

I would never leave a forum I enjoy just because malcontents are being dumb about something. I can just delete the messages without reading as fast as I can press the delete key.

I've had people who disagree with me try to run me off airports and skeet ranges, hasn't happened yet, but you'd be surprised how gingerly they approach you on the skeet range when you have a loaded shotgun!

If the list splits, I'll just subscribe to both, but I still think it's unnecessary.

Best Regards,

Randy, Las Vegas






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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:18 am    Post subject: 701/801 List Reply with quote

Great news for the 701 and 801 people! Glad Matt could see the need for it. The 601 and the 701/801 ARE two different aircraft, I agree. Will be glad to go over on your List when you get it. I for one, learn a lot from BOTH groups of airplanes. You'll see me there I'm sure.

Now all we have to do is get the "other people" to stay on task and NOT interject any foul or nasty attitudes on this forum. Just please do us all a favor? If your planning on coming on here to cause trouble, find someplace else to create it. Check your ATTITUDE before you click the button to access this forum. Anybody out here agree with that statement?

I personally have voiced my complaint directly to Matt D. about certain things being said yesterday. It was uncalled for and I for one was NOT amused by those statements. The facts be known, there was SEVERAL great guys that have threatened OR followed through it, to leave this forum. To those guys, I for one, will miss your input.....as to the other guys creating problems on here.......I could go for many, many MONTHS without words of anger or misuse of this forum. I have given Matt the archive number to read from yesterday and I HOPE he does something about it. Why should the rest of us have to suffer when certain people decide to have a really bad day and take it out on the rest of us to have to put up with? I will be the first to admit I myself have had a few "meltdowns" on here but I don't believe I was using foul language or creating a person attack on someone either.......I hope I have more class than that. If I'm wrong about this statement, then I want to fully apologize if I ever offended anyone.

Go ahead - your turn - flame away.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:21 am    Post subject: 701/801 List Reply with quote

Thanks Matt.

John Read

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In a message dated 4/11/2008 9:57:01 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, dralle(at)matronics.com writes:
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Zenith Listers,

Okay, "uncle"... Smile I'll create a new 601 specific and a new 701/801 specific Zenith list. Give me a few days to get it done. Its a fair amount of work and takes about a day to get everything updated and working. I'll post a follow up when they're ready to go.

Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin

At 08:09 AM 4/11/2008 Friday, you wrote:
Quote:
This was put up for a vote a few years ago and voted down. I voted against it, I have since changed my mind. About the only thing a 601 and 701/801 have in common is the name Zenith. They are totally two different type airplanes built for absolute different purposes. It makes no logic to lump them together in the same list. A separate 701/801 list would be best. In fact I would not be opposed to inviting (like) STOL aircraft builders to join in, such as the Savannah. Why not? After all this is supposed to be for sharing and learning things of common interest. In my opinion the 601 does fit this communally and I have very little interest in it.

Take care, LRM <http://www.skyhawg.com>www.skyhawg.com

[quote]From: <mailto:Elwood140(at)aol.com>Elwood140(at)aol.com
To: <mailto:zenith-list(at)matronics.com>zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 701/801 List

I'll vote for that! Based on the amount of 'watermelon conversation' appearing on this list for the last few months, I think a separate 701/801 list is in order.

Larry Wood

(N701LW still aborning )

In a message dated 4/11/2008 8:12:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time, <mailto:jnbolding1(at)teleshare.net>jnbolding1(at)teleshare.net writes:
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:55 am    Post subject: Re: 701/801 List Reply with quote

Thanks Matt,

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:24 am    Post subject: 701/801 List Reply with quote

The last Yahoo list I was on resulted in my email spam doubling. Is
this still the case?

Dan Wilde
701 Complete and ready to move to the airport.

MacDonald Doug wrote:
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I also am a little overwhelmed at times by the 601
talk on this list. A combination of it being the most
popular Zenith model and it's builders being the most
vocal. I don't fault anyone for this but that is the
way it is.

As for a STOL only list, that sort of already exists.
There is the 701/801 Yahoo group. While it would be
nice to have a Matronics list specifically for the
STOL series, I'm not sure it would be practical.

Anyone interested can get there at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/701builders/

Doug MacDonald
CH-701 Scratch Builder
NW Ontario, Canada

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:48 pm    Post subject: Re: 701/801 List Reply with quote

THANK YOU Matt.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject: 701/801 List Reply with quote

Well, the way I get around the SPAM is to use a Yahoo
e-mail account. It has a great spam filter. I use
this account for all of my newsgroups etc. This
limits the exposure of my "real" e-mail address.
Honestly, the Yahoo address has kind of become my real
e-mail address.

Doug MacDonald
CH-701 Scratch Builder
NW Ontario, Canada

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<dwilde(at)clearwire.net>

The last Yahoo list I was on resulted in my email
spam doubling. Is
this still the case?

Dan Wilde
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:21 am    Post subject: 701/801 List Reply with quote

For me, it would be a pity to split the 601 list off from the 701/801
list. Athough my 601HD has been flying for nearly 5 years, I still keep
up with the Zenith list because, about once or twice each week, I learn
something of importance from other builders/flyers, of both 601 and
701/801 aircraft. Although it is probably futile to say it, the problem
would be cured if people would confine themselves to reasonably brief
posts directly concerned with building and flying Zenith products. Is
this too much to ask?

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