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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:03 am    Post subject: Compass Location Reply with quote

I cannot find a good location for a compass except up high on the
canopy. Has anyone successfully mounted a compass up there? I don't
really want to drill a hole, but I'm also unsure of how I would glue
a mount to the inside of that curved surface.

Alternatively, has anyone de-magnetized their instrument panel area
successfully? Does this procedure involve any risk to the radios or
gyros? Or other equipment? Is it necessary to repeat the de-gaussing
from time to time, or is it a once and forever solution?

Thanks in advance
Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:18 am    Post subject: Compass Location Reply with quote

I had the same problem, I tried mounting a regular aircraft compass in
the panel and on top of the panel and could not get it to zero in
properly. One day I bought a compass at Meijer for $10 for my Jeep. I
followed the instructions and had it zeroed out great stuck to the
windshield with the suction cup mounts. Then I decided to try it out
in my Zodiac. I stuck it to the canopy with the suction cups about six
inches above the panel and was able to get it zeroed in just fine.

My regular aircraft compass was a Hamilton vertical card type. It
probably would have worked in the same location but I figured it was
too heavy and awkward to mount there. So I sold the vertical card
compass on eBay and used the 3M double sided adhesive tape that came
with the Meijer compass to permanently affix it the canopy. It's been
a over year now and I've had no problem with it.

The Meijer compass is an Airguide brand similar to an aircraft whiskey
compass. It is marked with both the eight cardinal directions and in
degrees. It only weighs a couple of ounces. It is mostly installed to
comply with the FAA requirement for a magnetic compass, but it works
well enough to navigate by if necessary. I usually use the GPS for
navigation.

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I cannot find a good location for a compass except up high on the
canopy. Has anyone successfully mounted a compass up there? I
don't really want to drill a hole, but I'm also unsure of how I
would glue a mount to the inside of that curved surface.

Alternatively, has anyone de-magnetized their instrument panel area
successfully? Does this procedure involve any risk to the radios or
gyros? Or other equipment? Is it necessary to repeat the de-gaussing
from time to time, or is it a once and forever solution?

Thanks in advance
Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:44 am    Post subject: Compass Location Reply with quote

Grant--
Due to interference from my GPS I also had to move the compass from the top of the panel to the canopy. I used double sided foam tape(pads). I did find after the plane sat for five days in the sun at Oshkosh that the compass ,due to its weight peeled away from the tape, however, the tape remained on the canopy. I subsequently found that if you add some instant glue(ZAP etc) under the compass side of the pad it gives enough strength to not peel away in the heat of the summer.

Good luck

George May
601XL 912s

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From: grant.corriveau(at)telus.net
Subject: Zenith-List: Compass Location
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 04:00:32 -0700
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grant.corriveau(at)telus.net>

I cannot find a good location for a compass except up high on the
canopy. Has anyone successfully mounted a compass up there? I don't
really want to drill a hole, but I'm also unsure of how I would glue
a mount to the inside of that curved surface.

Alternatively, has anyone de-magnetized their instrument panel area
successfully? Does this procedure involve any risk to the radios or
gyros? Or other equipment? Is it necessary to repeat the de-gaussing
from time to time, or is it a once and forever solution?

Thanks in advance
Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:46 am    Post subject: Compass Location Reply with quote

Grant,
I mounted my vertical card compass on top of the instrument panel, centerline. I used the two small bar magnets found in the base of GPS antennas and placed them at the base of the compass on the top panel skin on both sides. They worked to "neutralize" the mag flux in the area of the compass. I was able to swing the compass ok.
Prior to trying the small bar magnets (I used aluminum tape to cover them and painted over the tape), there was no way I could swing the compass to agree on all cardinal headings. Panel with compass is shown on the yellow airplane at http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/pic05/493tg3.jpg

Tony Graziano
XL/Jab3300; N493TG; 364 hrs
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Subject: Re: Compass Location From: Bryan Martin (bryanmmartin(at)comcast.net ([email]bryanmmartin(at)comcast.net?subject=Re:%20Compass%20Location&replyto=9AEABE4B-C456-42AD-A60A-F03C39306AA0(at)comcast.net[/email])) Date: [b]Sun Apr 13 - 9:18 AM[/b]
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I had the same problem, I tried mounting a regular aircraft compass in
the panel and on top of the panel and could not get it to zero in
properly. One day I bought a compass at Meijer for $10 for my Jeep. I
followed the instructions and had it zeroed out great stuck to the
windshield with the suction cup mounts. Then I decided to try it out
in my Zodiac. I stuck it to the canopy with the suction cups about six
inches above the panel and was able to get it zeroed in just fine.

My regular aircraft compass was a Hamilton vertical card type. It
probably would have worked in the same location but I figured it was
too heavy and awkward to mount there. So I sold the vertical card
compass on eBay and used the 3M double sided adhesive tape that came
with the Meijer compass to permanently affix it the canopy. It's been
a over year now and I've had no problem with it.

The Meijer compass is an Airguide brand similar to an aircraft whiskey
compass. It is marked with both the eight cardinal directions and in
degrees. It only weighs a couple of ounces. It is mostly installed to
comply with the FAA requirement for a magnetic compass, but it works
well enough to navigate by if necessary. I usually use the GPS for
navigation.

Quote:

>

I cannot find a good location for a compass except up high on the
canopy. Has anyone successfully mounted a compass up there? I
don't really want to drill a hole, but I'm also unsure of how I
would glue a mount to the inside of that curved surface.

Alternatively, has anyone de-magnetized their instrument panel area
successfully? Does this procedure involve any risk to the radios or
gyros? Or other equipment? Is it necessary to repeat the de-gaussing
from time to time, or is it a once and forever solution?

Thanks in advance
Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF


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N61BM, CH 601 XL,
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:34 am    Post subject: Compass Location Reply with quote

I mounted my vertical card compass on top of my panel, center in my
CH701. It is dead on N/S and nearly so E/W. Just prior to final assembly,
I removed the entire metal cabin frame and took it to a TV repairman who
had a large, homemade degausser. After that I reinstalled the cabin
frame. At the time, I doubted it was worth all the effort, but now that
I'm flying with it, I'm glad I did it. I read somewhere in the list
archives to never degauss near radios and instruments, so that is the
reason I removed the cabin frame.

Jeff Beachy
CH701, 52 hours


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Compass Location Reply with quote

How about a curved aluminum tube that runs front to back, that follows the contour of the canopy, and then mount the compass on that? Might even provide some measure of rollover protection. Not much protection, but a little, especially if you ran another section side to side and connected them.

grant.corriveau(at)TELUS. wrote:
I cannot find a good location for a compass except up high on the
canopy. Has anyone successfully mounted a compass up there? I don't
really want to drill a hole, but I'm also unsure of how I would glue
a mount to the inside of that curved surface.

Alternatively, has anyone de-magnetized their instrument panel area
successfully? Does this procedure involve any risk to the radios or
gyros? Or other equipment? Is it necessary to repeat the de-gaussing
from time to time, or is it a once and forever solution?

Thanks in advance
Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF


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