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Dear -10 Listers,
I have debated for several days whether to hit the send button on this e-mail. I am not sure that it is my place to share this experience. I attended SNF this year and was pleased to look over all of the -10s that were in attendance. It is exciting to know that my plane will sit in the same row with these birds in the near future. But that’s not the reason for this message…..
On the way home from SNF, we stopped in Georgia to look at a ground looped Skybolt that one of my fellow chapter members is considering purchasing. During the conversation with the salvage yard, I mentioned that I was building an RV-10…and that unfortunately, one had gone down last week. The gent helping us stated that the plane was there…. Right next to where we were standing. We wandered over and took a look…
I have never been humbled as much as I was at the Vietnam Memorial in Washington, D.C. While standing looking at the downed plane, I had a second moving experience -- similar to that at “The Wall”. I recognized the structures. I saw the parts that I am so intimately familiar with. I saw the devastation that the passengers in this aircraft must have endured. I can only hope that they did not suffer.
I am told that the field of debris was 600 feet long (2 football fields). The first sign of contact was fiberglass imbedded 4” into tree tops. The last item in the field was the engine. In all my days, I have never seen a propeller as curled as this one. I am not familiar with all of the details….. but I can tell you this….. There were structures that had every rivet sheared off. I recognized parts that I thought would be impossible to destroy…yet here they were in pieces. It was my familiarity with the parts and pieces that made this moment so significant. I cannot imagine what was happening at the time the airframe came to this state of being. I did not know the pilot or passenger. I wish that I could have met them. I am sure they were fine individuals, as all of the -10 builders seem to be.
Why am I writing this, you ask? I am not concerned about insurance or the future of our small community of builders. I am not concerned about bent sheet metal. I am writing this to encourage you, my airplane and aviation family, to think twice before entering into an area filled with Thunderstorms. I have no idea what happened, but I do know that this one stop… this 10 minutes in Georgia… will change the way that I “pilot”…maybe for the rest of my life. I have landed for weather before….and I will again. From now on…I will be much quicker to make a “NO GO” decision. I encourage you to do the same. The boys from Lancair told harrowing tales of their trip down this year…and how they had been at 400’ AGL above an interstate to avoid towers. I was amazed that they survived their complete lack of judgment. We all can suffer from “get-there-‘it is”
This humbling moment in time, may save my life…and the lives of my passengers. I am sorry that others lost their lives in order to drive this home for me.
Be safe my friends, I hope that I can meet each of you in person one day soon.
Pete
RV-10 #40100
90% done, 90% to go.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:22 am Post subject: Humbling Experience |
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Peter, thanks. I am glad you hit the send button. Thoughtful and well written. Thanks for sharing.
John Jessen
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[quote] From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of James, Peter [SD]
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 8:57 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Humbling Experience
Dear -10 Listers,
I have debated for several days whether to hit the send button on this e-mail. I am not sure that it is my place to share this experience. I attended SNF this year and was pleased to look over all of the -10s that were in attendance. It is exciting to know that my plane will sit in the same row with these birds in the near future. But that’s not the reason for this message…..
On the way home from SNF, we stopped in Georgia to look at a ground looped Skybolt that one of my fellow chapter members is considering purchasing. During the conversation with the salvage yard, I mentioned that I was building an RV-10…and that unfortunately, one had gone down last week. The gent helping us stated that the plane was there…. Right next to where we were standing. We wandered over and took a look…
I have never been humbled as much as I was at the Vietnam Memorial in Washington, D.C. While standing looking at the downed plane, I had a second moving experience -- similar to that at “The Wall”. I recognized the structures. I saw the parts that I am so intimately familiar with. I saw the devastation that the passengers in this aircraft must have endured. I can only hope that they did not suffer.
I am told that the field of debris was 600 feet long (2 football fields). The first sign of contact was fiberglass imbedded 4” into tree tops. The last item in the field was the engine. In all my days, I have never seen a propeller as curled as this one. I am not familiar with all of the details….. but I can tell you this….. There were structures that had every rivet sheared off. I recognized parts that I thought would be impossible to destroy…yet here they were in pieces. It was my familiarity with the parts and pieces that made this moment so significant. I cannot imagine what was happening at the time the airframe came to this state of being. I did not know the pilot or passenger. I wish that I could have met them. I am sure they were fine individuals, as all of the -10 builders seem to be.
Why am I writing this, you ask? I am not concerned about insurance or the future of our small community of builders. I am not concerned about bent sheet metal. I am writing this to encourage you, my airplane and aviation family, to think twice before entering into an area filled with Thunderstorms. I have no idea what happened, but I do know that this one stop… this 10 minutes in Georgia… will change the way that I “pilot”…maybe for the rest of my life. I have landed for weather before….and I will again. From now on…I will be much quicker to make a “NO GO” decision. I encourage you to do the same. The boys from Lancair told harrowing tales of their trip down this year…and how they had been at 400’ AGL above an interstate to avoid towers. I was amazed that they survived their complete lack of judgment. We all can suffer from “get-there-‘it is”
This humbling moment in time, may save my life…and the lives of my passengers. I am sorry that others lost their lives in order to drive this home for me.
Be safe my friends, I hope that I can meet each of you in person one day soon.
Pete
RV-10 #40100
90% done, 90% to go.
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:42 am Post subject: Humbling Experience |
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Pete,
Thanks for posting your story and feelings. We all need to be open
enough to reflect and allow some positive to come from all of the
past and future negatives we encounter in our hobby. If I had
a hundred bucks for every time I've been flying in my RV-10 and
pictured the "aftermath" article that my wrong decision would
make, I'd be able to pay for my plane. It can happen to any
of us, and we all just have to approach all of our decisions with
the proper respect. It is great that you told the story
as it will be a very close to home memory for those who are
faced with such decisions down the road.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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James, Peter [SD] wrote:
| Quote: | Dear -10 Listers,
I have debated for several days whether to hit the send button on this
e-mail. I am not sure that it is my place to share this experience. I
attended SNF this year and was pleased to look over all of the -10s that
were in attendance. It is exciting to know that my plane will sit in
the same row with these birds in the near future. But that’s not the
reason for this message…..
On the way home from SNF, we stopped in Georgia to look at a ground
looped Skybolt that one of my fellow chapter members is considering
purchasing. During the conversation with the salvage yard, I mentioned
that I was building an RV-10…and that unfortunately, one had gone down
last week. The gent helping us stated that the plane was there…. Right
next to where we were standing. We wandered over and took a look…
I have never been humbled as much as I was at the Vietnam Memorial in
Washington, D.C. While standing looking at the downed plane, I had a
second moving experience -- similar to that at “The Wall”. I recognized
the structures. I saw the parts that I am so intimately familiar with.
I saw the devastation that the passengers in this aircraft must have
endured. I can only hope that they did not suffer.
I am told that the field of debris was 600 feet long (2 football
fields). The first sign of contact was fiberglass imbedded 4” into tree
tops. The last item in the field was the engine. In all my days, I
have never seen a propeller as curled as this one. I am not familiar
with all of the details….. but I can tell you this….. There were
structures that had every rivet sheared off. I recognized parts that I
thought would be impossible to destroy…yet here they were in pieces. It
was my familiarity with the parts and pieces that made this moment so
significant. I cannot imagine what was happening at the time the
airframe came to this state of being. I did not know the pilot or
passenger. I wish that I could have met them. I am sure they were fine
individuals, as all of the -10 builders seem to be.
Why am I writing this, you ask? I am not concerned about insurance or
the future of our small community of builders. I am not concerned about
bent sheet metal. I am writing this to encourage you, my airplane and
aviation family, to think twice before entering into an area filled with
Thunderstorms. I have no idea what happened, but I do know that this
one stop… this 10 minutes in Georgia… will change the way that I
“pilot”…maybe for the rest of my life. I have landed for weather
before….and I will again. From now on…I will be much quicker to make a
“NO GO” decision. I encourage you to do the same. The boys from
Lancair told harrowing tales of their trip down this year…and how they
had been at 400’ AGL above an interstate to avoid towers. I was amazed
that they survived their complete lack of judgment. We all can suffer
from “get-there-‘it is”
This humbling moment in time, may save my life…and the lives of my
passengers. I am sorry that others lost their lives in order to drive
this home for me.
Be safe my friends, I hope that I can meet each of you in person one day
soon.
Pete
RV-10 #40100
90% done, 90% to go.
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flysrv10(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:33 pm Post subject: Humbling Experience |
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Thanks for sharing the details of the HORRIBLE accident. I Know how you feel. I have witnessed another RV crash site and it is a sad and humbling experience.
Rob.
On Apr 14, 2008, at 11:56 AM, James, Peter [SD] wrote: | Quote: | Dear -10 Listers,
I have debated for several days whether to hit the send button on this e-mail. I am not sure that it is my place to share this experience. I attended SNF this year and was pleased to look over all of the -10s that were in attendance. It is exciting to know that my plane will sit in the same row with these birds in the near future. But that’s not the reason for this message…..
On the way home from SNF, we stopped in Georgia to look at a ground looped Skybolt that one of my fellow chapter members is considering purchasing. During the conversation with the salvage yard, I mentioned that I was building an RV-10…and that unfortunately, one had gone down last week. The gent helping us stated that the plane was there…. Right next to where we were standing. We wandered over and took a look…
I have never been humbled as much as I was at the Vietnam Memorial in Washington, D.C. While standing looking at the downed plane, I had a second moving experience -- similar to that at “The Wall”. I recognized the structures. I saw the parts that I am so intimately familiar with. I saw the devastation that the passengers in this aircraft must have endured. I can only hope that they did not suffer.
I am told that the field of debris was 600 feet long (2 football fields). The first sign of contact was fiberglass imbedded 4” into tree tops. The last item in the field was the engine. In all my days, I have never seen a propeller as curled as this one. I am not familiar with all of the details….. but I can tell you this….. There were structures that had every rivet sheared off. I recognized parts that I thought would be impossible to destroy…yet here they were in pieces. It was my familiarity with the parts and pieces that made this moment so significant. I cannot imagine what was happening at the time the airframe came to this state of being. I did not know the pilot or passenger. I wish that I could have met them. I am sure they were fine individuals, as all of the -10 builders seem to be.
Why am I writing this, you ask? I am not concerned about insurance or the future of our small community of builders. I am not concerned about bent sheet metal. I am writing this to encourage you, my airplane and aviation family, to think twice before entering into an area filled with Thunderstorms. I have no idea what happened, but I do know that this one stop… this 10 minutes in Georgia… will change the way that I “pilot”…maybe for the rest of my life. I have landed for weather before….and I will again. From now on…I will be much quicker to make a “NO GO” decision. I encourage you to do the same. The boys from Lancair told harrowing tales of their trip down this year…and how they had been at 400’ AGL above an interstate to avoid towers. I was amazed that they survived their complete lack of judgment. We all can suffer from “get-there-‘it is”
This humbling moment in time, may save my life…and the lives of my passengers. I am sorry that others lost their lives in order to drive this home for me.
Be safe my friends, I hope that I can meet each of you in person one day soon.
PeteRV-10 #40100
90% done, 90% to go.
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Pete,
Thank you for this sobering write up. It is truly sad that we are having to learn lessons in such a painful way.
Yes, the RV-10 is a dream airplane for all of us, but at the same time it is HIGH PERFORMANCE airplane - that means it is fast. If you have been flying a C172, the 10 will be a whole new world. I really hope that all future 10 pilots take the time to get plenty of high performance training especially for IFR where things can happen really fast. I get a little nervous when I hear about 10 builders who do not have their license yet. Again I hope they don't fly their 10 until fully trained for this high-performance machine. Sorry to get on my soapbox, but needed to say this.
John Testement
jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com (jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com)
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Richmond, VA
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of James, Peter [SD]
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:57 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Humbling Experience
Dear -10 Listers,
I have debated for several days whether to hit the send button on this e-mail. I am not sure that it is my place to share this experience. I attended SNF this year and was pleased to look over all of the -10s that were in attendance. It is exciting to know that my plane will sit in the same row with these birds in the near future. But that’s not the reason for this message…..
On the way home from SNF, we stopped in Georgia to look at a ground looped Skybolt that one of my fellow chapter members is considering purchasing. During the conversation with the salvage yard, I mentioned that I was building an RV-10…and that unfortunately, one had gone down last week. The gent helping us stated that the plane was there…. Right next to where we were standing. We wandered over and took a look…
I have never been humbled as much as I was at the Vietnam Memorial in Washington, D.C. While standing looking at the downed plane, I had a second moving experience -- similar to that at “The Wall”. I recognized the structures. I saw the parts that I am so intimately familiar with. I saw the devastation that the passengers in this aircraft must have endured. I can only hope that they did not suffer.
I am told that the field of debris was 600 feet long (2 football fields). The first sign of contact was fiberglass imbedded 4” into tree tops. The last item in the field was the engine. In all my days, I have never seen a propeller as curled as this one. I am not familiar with all of the details….. but I can tell you this….. There were structures that had every rivet sheared off. I recognized parts that I thought would be impossible to destroy…yet here they were in pieces. It was my familiarity with the parts and pieces that made this moment so significant. I cannot imagine what was happening at the time the airframe came to this state of being. I did not know the pilot or passenger. I wish that I could have met them. I am sure they were fine individuals, as all of the -10 builders seem to be.
Why am I writing this, you ask? I am not concerned about insurance or the future of our small community of builders. I am not concerned about bent sheet metal. I am writing this to encourage you, my airplane and aviation family, to think twice before entering into an area filled with Thunderstorms. I have no idea what happened, but I do know that this one stop… this 10 minutes in Georgia… will change the way that I “pilot”…maybe for the rest of my life. I have landed for weather before….and I will again. From now on…I will be much quicker to make a “NO GO” decision. I encourage you to do the same. The boys from Lancair told harrowing tales of their trip down this year…and how they had been at 400’ AGL above an interstate to avoid towers. I was amazed that they survived their complete lack of judgment. We all can suffer from “get-there-‘it is”
This humbling moment in time, may save my life…and the lives of my passengers. I am sorry that others lost their lives in order to drive this home for me.
Be safe my friends, I hope that I can meet each of you in person one day soon.
Pete
RV-10 #40100
90% done, 90% to go.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: Humbling Experience |
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Pete,
I know that feeling of wondering how on earth a (fill in the blank) could have gotten twisted up that badly. I'm reminded just how fragile these machines are; the occupants even more so.
Thanks for your well written post.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of James, Peter [SD]
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 8:57 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Humbling Experience
Dear -10 Listers,
I have debated for several days whether to hit the send button on this e-mail. I am not sure that it is my place to share this experience. I attended SNF this year and was pleased to look over all of the -10s that were in attendance. It is exciting to know that my plane will sit in the same row with these birds in the near future. But that’s not the reason for this message…..
On the way home from SNF, we stopped in Georgia to look at a ground looped Skybolt that one of my fellow chapter members is considering purchasing. During the conversation with the salvage yard, I mentioned that I was building an RV-10…and that unfortunately, one had gone down last week. The gent helping us stated that the plane was there…. Right next to where we were standing. We wandered over and took a look…
I have never been humbled as much as I was at the Vietnam Memorial in Washington, D.C. While standing looking at the downed plane, I had a second moving experience -- similar to that at “The Wall”. I recognized the structures. I saw the parts that I am so intimately familiar with. I saw the devastation that the passengers in this aircraft must have endured. I can only hope that they did not suffer.
I am told that the field of debris was 600 feet long (2 football fields). The first sign of contact was fiberglass imbedded 4” into tree tops. The last item in the field was the engine. In all my days, I have never seen a propeller as curled as this one. I am not familiar with all of the details….. but I can tell you this….. There were structures that had every rivet sheared off. I recognized parts that I thought would be impossible to destroy…yet here they were in pieces. It was my familiarity with the parts and pieces that made this moment so significant. I cannot imagine what was happening at the time the airframe came to this state of being. I did not know the pilot or passenger. I wish that I could have met them. I am sure they were fine individuals, as all of the -10 builders seem to be.
Why am I writing this, you ask? I am not concerned about insurance or the future of our small community of builders. I am not concerned about bent sheet metal. I am writing this to encourage you, my airplane and aviation family, to think twice before entering into an area filled with Thunderstorms. I have no idea what happened, but I do know that this one stop… this 10 minutes in Georgia… will change the way that I “pilot”…maybe for the rest of my life. I have landed for weather before….and I will again. From now on…I will be much quicker to make a “NO GO” decision. I encourage you to do the same. The boys from Lancair told harrowing tales of their trip down this year…and how they had been at 400’ AGL above an interstate to avoid towers. I was amazed that they survived their complete lack of judgment. We all can suffer from “get-there-‘it is”
This humbling moment in time, may save my life…and the lives of my passengers. I am sorry that others lost their lives in order to drive this home for me.
Be safe my friends, I hope that I can meet each of you in person one day soon.
Pete
RV-10 #40100
90% done, 90% to go.
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