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grantr
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 Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:54 am Post subject: Emergency Parachute |
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John Hauck I noticed in another post that you have deployed an emergency parachute twice during your flying time.
What were the reasons for the deployments?
My plane dose not have a emergency chute on it. I am considering getting a BRS for it .
Has anyone else had to deploy an emergency chute?
Are there any other cheaper options that BRS besides the hand throw chutes? I would be scared that a hand throw chute might get caught on the prop or something else if it was just tossed out by hand.
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JetPilot
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:52 am Post subject: Re: Emergency Parachute |
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If you want to know about how many BRS saves there have been, you should look here:
http://brsparachutes.com/files/Documents/Lives-Saved.pdf
If you want a chute on your plane, you should just spend the money and get the proven, quality system BRS sells. If you try to get to cheap, you may end up spending money and effort on something that wont work in many situations.
Mike
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Dana
Joined: 13 Dec 2007
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Location: Connecticut, USA
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject: Emergency Parachute |
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At 02:52 PM 4/18/2008, JetPilot wrote:
| Quote: | If you want to know about how many BRS saves there have been, you should
look here:
http://brsparachutes.com/files/Documents/Lives-Saved.pdf
If you want a chute on your plane, you should just spend the money and get
the proven, quality system BRS sells. If you try to get to cheap, you
may end up spending money and effort on something that wont work in many
situations.
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A BRS is like many things; you balance the cost vs risk vs reward. In my
own case, if I wouldn't fly without a BRS then I couldn't fly... a new BRS
costs significantly more than my airplane cost, thus a lower priced
alternative was an interesting option (that, this time, didn't pan out).
Now, I know that a hand thrown chute (the same kind I was looking at) save
John Hauck's ass twice and Dennis Souder's once, but two of those (they
admit) were deliberately abused aircraft (aerobatics) leading to structural
failure. Structural failure is EXTREMELY rare in a properly designed,
constructed, and maintained aircraft.
As for the list of BRS "saves"... I have no doubt that a BRS _has_ saved
lives, and for flight test of a new aircraft it _definitely_ makes sense,
but I'd credit about 25% of that list as being valid "saves". Component or
structural failure or midair collision, yes. Failure during aerobatics in
a plane not designed for same, that's pilot error. Ditto "loss of
control". Engine failure, 90% of the time (probably 99% of the time in
slow airplanes like we fly) you're better off flying it in under control
than popping a chute and surrendering yourself to the ride.
Some of the items on the list are really weird. "Fuel leaking"...
"installation of improper propeller"... and perhaps the strangest, "struck
obstacle on landing approach" at 25'... THAT's a BRS emergency???
For that matter, my own Ultrastar took a parachute ride. The original
owner had an engine out at 3000' directly over his home airport...
panicked, and deployed the chute (another one I wouldn't count). The plane
went into power lines, blacking out the local area, resulting in
ultralights being banned from that airport. Another guy bought and rebuilt
the wreck, whereupon it passed through two more owners before getting to me.
-Dana
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Blow your mind, smoke gunpowder.
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