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isaligman(at)saligman.com Guest
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:07 am Post subject: Hangar Floors |
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Does anyone have any suggestions for a new construction hangar floor finish. I have heard sealing was good but others say that it still lets oil in. Other people swear by various paint products.
All suggestions on and off line are welcome.
Ira Saligman
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:35 am Post subject: Hangar Floors |
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In a message dated 4/21/08 12:08:54 PM, isaligman(at)saligman.com writes:
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I wanted to epoxy coat the new hangar I moved into two years ago, Ira, but discovered there was no moister seal below the concrete so that was out. Instead I bought a 17' x 8' roll of garage rubber floor mat. It's fits under the CJ nicely, and is easy to keep clean. While it doesn't react to oil, av gas will cause it to alter shape should you overfill your fuel tanks on a hot day. Nevertheless, it's worked well, and is ton cheaper than epoxy. ...Blitz
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ReadeG(at)Cairnwood.com Guest
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:57 am Post subject: Hangar Floors |
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You have an advantage with it being new concrete. Basically there are two types of sealers/curing agents – water based and distillate based. Either will give you good results if applied properly. Some of the distillate products can be tinted. We used 2 coats on a new surface and it has worked great.
A third avenue is to use two part urethane type coatings. These are more difficult to use and if not applied properly will peel. They require acid etching and neutralizing for proper adhesion. The trade off is that they can provide the best protection, come in many colors and are very durable.
There are many trade names for these products but frankly, inside each category, they are very similar.
Reade Genzlinger
Cairnwood Cooperative Corporation
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Subject: Hangar Floors
Does anyone have any suggestions for a new construction hangar floor finish. I have heard sealing was good but others say that it still lets oil in. Other people swear by various paint products.
All suggestions on and off line are welcome.
Ira Saligman
o 610 940 0420
c 610 324 5500
f 215 243 7699
isaligman(at)Saligman.com (isaligman(at)Saligman.com)
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petervs(at)knology.net Guest
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject: Hangar Floors |
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Nicest floor I have seen was a large black and white checkerboard pattern done with linoleum tile. Bet it was expensive though.
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Subject: Hangar Floors
Does anyone have any suggestions for a new construction hangar floor finish. I have heard sealing was good but others say that it still lets oil in. Other people swear by various paint products.
All suggestions on and off line are welcome.
Ira Saligman
o 610 940 0420
c 610 324 5500
f 215 243 7699
isaligman(at)Saligman.com (isaligman(at)Saligman.com)
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:41 pm Post subject: Hangar Floors |
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I used 2 part epoxy about 3 years ago, looks good oil wipes off nice
Don
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:05 pm Post subject: Hangar Floors |
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From my experience, the most important thing for the application surface coatings is properly preparing the concrete surface. There are a number of methods that can be utilized…probably the most popular is utilizing some type of acid. However, this procedure has the drawback of properly disposing of the materials. Our company manufactures surface preparation equipment. A lot of our products and, unfortunately, our competition, can be found in almost every equipment rental store.
I favor a high solids, high gloss urethane to help reflect light. White, off white or even a light gray are popular. Color is more personal preference. Depending upon the condition of the surface (ages, cracks, etc) choose either a thin film and apply it by conventional methods (roller, pad, etc) or a thick film material that is self leveling (if the floor is in serious trouble). The down side is that any coating or finish will show the dirt faster.
A good approach is to utilize a low speed concrete grinder (ie:250 RPM) along with 10 grit silicon carbide impregnated stones. The stones are cheap. They will clean the surface and help remove the impurities that can lead to top coat failure. This is not a difficult job and it can be done with little experience because the low speed grinder will not allow you to get into trouble...like grinding too much concrete too fast. On the job site, I always keep a jug of water handy as I am grinding. Pour some water on the floor where you have been grinding. If the water beads up…the floor is still contaminated and the coating will fail. If the water permeates the floor and dries up…the floor is ready for top coating. Not high tech, but it works.
For new floor construction, just wait until the floor has properly cured (28 days). A quick grind job will clean and remove just a few thousands of an inch from the floor and prep the floor for a new coating. The idea is not to grind a lot of concrete. You just want to “open” up the pores in the concrete. There are a number of good floor contractors in your area that can do the job. Use a name brand coating that has a good guarantee and tech support. Use a good contractor that will guarantee his work. He will if he understands proper surface prep.
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From: Ira Saligman [mailto:isaligman(at)saligman.com]
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Subject: Hangar Floors
Does anyone have any suggestions for a new construction hangar floor finish. I have heard sealing was good but others say that it still lets oil in. Other people swear by various paint products.
All suggestions on and off line are welcome.
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:49 am Post subject: Hangar Floors |
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I built a new hanger and used a good cemmercial grade epoxy paint. 8 years and no problems. Oil , MEK, etc do not effect it, just wipe up.
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:58 pm Post subject: Hangar Floors |
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On Apr 21, 2008, at 12:05 PM, Ira Saligman wrote:
Quote: | Does anyone have any suggestions for a new construction hangar floor
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lets oil in. Other people swear by various paint products.
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I have two-part polyurethane over epoxy. Nothing goes through, not
even hydraulic fluid. I did mine in white so that when I look under
the airplane I know precisely what is leaking and from where. I then
just take a rag a wipe it up completely. Hydraulic fluid does get
sticky and needs a bit of solvent to wipe it up but neither 100LL nor
stoddard solvent will attack the polyurethane.
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