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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:00 pm    Post subject: Rivet Gun Recommendation? Reply with quote

I'm looking for a recommendation on a pneumatic rivet gun... I've searched the archives and see that the one from Harbor Freight appears a few times, but is "low cost"... I read an article in Kitplanes that said to not skimp on the rivet gun and expect to pay $200 for a good one...

Any feedback on this?

Thanks in advance for your suggestions!

Regards,
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: Rivet Gun Recommendation? Reply with quote

Built my entire 601XL with the "cheap" Harbor Freight gun. Worked fine with just a drop of oil now and then.

George May
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Subject: Rivet Gun Recommendation?
From: mwtucker(at)windstream.net
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:00:18 -0700
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I'm looking for a recommendation on a pneumatic rivet gun... I've searched the archives and see that the one from Harbor Freight appears a few times, but is "low cost"... I read an article in Kitplanes that said to not skimp on the rivet gun and expect to pay $200 for a good one..

Any feedback on this?

Thanks in advance for your suggestions!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: Rivet Gun Recommendation? Reply with quote

I purchased mine from Northern Tool Company. It was around $70 and it works fine. I used the heads from the rivet gun from Zenith in it with no problems. I think $200 is a little much and im sure you can get a real good one for that price but others can be had cheeper that will work fine.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:52 pm    Post subject: Rivet Gun Recommendation? Reply with quote

I ended up getting the gun from ZAC. I was going to go the harbor
freight route, however I didn't want to hassle with manufacturing a nose
piece for my gun. I just spent the $80 and was done with it.
george may wrote:
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Built my entire 601XL with the "cheap" Harbor Freight gun. Worked fine
with just a drop of oil now and then.

George May
601XL 912s 200hrs

> Subject: Rivet Gun Recommendation?
> From: mwtucker(at)windstream.net
> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:00:18 -0700
> To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
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> I'm looking for a recommendation on a pneumatic rivet gun... I've
searched the archives and see that the one from Harbor Freight appears
a few times, but is "low cost"... I read an article in Kitplanes that
said to not skimp on the rivet gun and expect to pay $200 for a good
one...
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> Any feedback on this?
>
> Thanks in advance for your suggestions!
>
> Regards,
> Mike
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Rivet Gun Recommendation? Reply with quote

Mine is from HF too, it has not built an airplane , just a rudder and stab. But I could buy a number of them on sale for 200 bucks. Your will have to make the special machined head, very easy and about 5 bucks if you have the drill press ( or lath even better) already.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Rivet Gun Recommendation? Reply with quote

Harbor Freight. 29.95 on sale or $49.95 regular. Works just fine.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Rivet Gun Recommendation? Reply with quote

What PSI do you guys find best for pulling the rivets? I set a few practice ones with my riveter from zenith at 90 and they back end didn't appear to pull tight enough?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Rivet Gun Recommendation? Reply with quote

Andrew:

I used 42 psi for A4s and 60 psi for A5s with my excellent Zenith
supplied rivet gun. I didn't want the gun to pull too fast so that it had
time to completely reshape the rivet head.

Mike
601 XL - Rotax FWfwd installation in progress
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What PSI do you guys find best for pulling the rivets? I set a few
practice ones with my riveter from zenith at 90 and they back end didn't
appear to pull tight enough?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Rivet Gun Recommendation? Reply with quote

I bought the green one in the ZAC toolkit. Was not happy with it. It's purely pnuematic, and "harsh".

While visiting Quality Sport Planes in Cloverdale, I struck up a conversation about riveters with one of the airplane builders, and he let me pull a couple rivets on a 701 with his HF gun.

Big difference. You put oil in it. I bought one on the spot, and have used it ever since.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:54 am    Post subject: Rivet Gun Recommendation? Reply with quote

Look on ebay they have hundreds, bought one for $40 and have built over half
of my 701 without any problems. Just add a little oil and maybe make an
adjustment now and then.

John (Scratch building 701)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:09 am    Post subject: Rivet Gun Recommendation? Reply with quote

Andrew
I use the Zenith gun and have found that the best pressures for me are 45# for A-4s and 60 #s for A-5s. Get a real pressure regulator, that flow restricter that they send with the gun doesn't work well. Be sure and keep the bolts in the gun tight. The bolts in the case tend to work loose and if they get to loose the housing will break. (I'm not going to tell you how I know).
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:28 am    Post subject: Rivet Gun Recommendation? Reply with quote

Hi, Mike (and List),

I built 75% of my 801 using the cheap HF gun, after the $80 one from Zenith
blew apart. Also, the HF unit fits into a lot of places that the Zenith
unit won't. I even pulled AS5 stainless steel rivets in my firewall with
the HF gun! I'm not a fan of Chinese goods, but they did a winner with that
rivet puller.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:36 am    Post subject: Rivet Gun Recommendation? Reply with quote

One more comment: Nosepieces from the Zenith gun will fit the HF gun.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:37 am    Post subject: Re: Rivet Gun Recommendation? Reply with quote

I've built TWO planes with the same harbor freight gun, I oiled it once and
keep the pressure up around 100 psi. I've dropped it a half dozen times
and at this point if it falls apart I'll be happy for the use I got out of it.

I'd buy another in a second.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Rivet Gun Recommendation? Reply with quote

I didn't know that! Very Happy

jmcburney(at)pobox.com wrote:
One more comment: Nosepieces from the Zenith gun will fit the HF gun.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Rivet Gun Recommendation? Reply with quote

If I was building airplanes for a living and pulled thousands of rivets
every day, I would probably buy a professional quality, expensive
rivet puller. For building one airplane and pulling a few thousand
rivets total, the inexpensive Harbor Freight riveter worked just fine. I
built the whole airplane with it with no problem and it still works fine.

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I'm looking for a recommendation on a pneumatic rivet gun... I've searched the archives and see that the one from Harbor Freight appears a few times, but is "low cost"... I read an article in Kitplanes that said to not skimp on the rivet gun and expect to pay $200 for a good one...

Any feedback on this?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:41 pm    Post subject: Rivet Gun Recommendation? Reply with quote

Hi
Do you know the price of the HF gun?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Rivet Gun Recommendation? Reply with quote

Can someone give me the part number of the Harbor Freight gun? Or do they only sell one?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:01 pm    Post subject: Rivet Gun Recommendation? Reply with quote

They list three on their website:

http://search.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do?keyword=riveter&Submit=Go

I think the one I have is the one listed for $34.99. I would have to
check the model number to be sure. These riveters may be available at
their outlet stores also, I mail ordered mine.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Rivet Gun Recommendation? Reply with quote

burbby wrote:
I purchased mine from Northern Tool Company. It was around $70 and it works fine. I used the heads from the rivet gun from Zenith in it with no problems. ...
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I can verify the Northern Tool one works great, with the Zenith heads. I also have Stanley MR77C manual rivet puller, with a 360 degree swiveling head that works great for tight spots or weird angles. The heads also fit it.

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