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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject: flap seals Reply with quote

Graham,

the flaps are only sealed in the up position, by the leading edge of the
flaps pressing against the seal attached to the inside of
the channel. Sealing the flaps in the down position would defeat the
benefit of slotted flaps with their own lift producing
air-foil,in my opinion. The old L 13 Blanik sailplanes used to have such
flap-seals, which would then deteriorate over time.
However, there are now all kinds of such seals available, including those
stocked by camper-trailer and marine suppliers
and installation is particularly easy on the Europa. Try it, you'll like it!

Peter Timm, # 110
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:59 pm    Post subject: flap seals Reply with quote

Peter
that makes sense, the only caveat is that there needs to be a small
amount of reflex on the trailing edge, (TE up) and the seal could
compromise that
Graham

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Graham,

the flaps are only sealed in the up position, by the leading edge of the
flaps pressing against the seal attached to the inside of
the channel. Sealing the flaps in the down position would defeat the
benefit of slotted flaps with their own lift producing
air-foil,in my opinion. The old L 13 Blanik sailplanes used to have such
flap-seals, which would then deteriorate over time.
However, there are now all kinds of such seals available, including
those stocked by camper-trailer and marine suppliers
and installation is particularly easy on the Europa. Try it, you'll like
it!

Peter Timm, # 110


















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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:00 am    Post subject: flap seals Reply with quote

Graham,

How much reflex for best cruise performance? I am thinking of working on
my flap rigging to help the heavy left wing and instead of lowering the
left one slightly which sounds easy thanks to Bud Yearly's suggestion, I
would like to achieve the slight reflex you suggest.And then also the seals.

And thanks very much for the mono landing advice. Bob had a limited
amount of time to work with me, and after a 7 year build process I need
a lot of work! Unfortunately that will have to wait till fall as I
leave Saturday for Alaska for 6 months of work. Next year I will fly
N211KA to AK!

Kevin

Graham Singleton wrote:
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<grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com>

Peter
that makes sense, the only caveat is that there needs to be a small
amount of reflex on the trailing edge, (TE up) and the seal could
compromise that
Graham

Peter Timm wrote:
>
>
> Graham,
>
> the flaps are only sealed in the up position, by the leading edge of
> the flaps pressing against the seal attached to the inside of
> the channel. Sealing the flaps in the down position would defeat the
> benefit of slotted flaps with their own lift producing
> air-foil,in my opinion. The old L 13 Blanik sailplanes used to have
> such flap-seals, which would then deteriorate over time.
> However, there are now all kinds of such seals available, including
> those stocked by camper-trailer and marine suppliers
> and installation is particularly easy on the Europa. Try it, you'll
> like it!
>
> Peter Timm, # 110
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject: flap seals Reply with quote

Kevin
Can you o[pen the attached dxf file? It is an Autocad drawing exchange file.
The leading edge is very important too. It should be quite sharp radius
Graham

Kevin Klinefelter wrote:
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Graham,

How much reflex for best cruise performance? I am thinking of working on
my flap rigging to help the heavy left wing and instead of lowering the
left one slightly which sounds easy thanks to Bud Yearly's suggestion, I
would like to achieve the slight reflex you suggest.And then also the
seals.

And thanks very much for the mono landing advice. Bob had a limited
amount of time to work with me, and after a 7 year build process I need
a lot of work! Unfortunately that will have to wait till fall as I
leave Saturday for Alaska for 6 months of work. Next year I will fly
N211KA to AK!

Kevin

Graham Singleton wrote:

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> <grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com>
>
> Peter
> that makes sense, the only caveat is that there needs to be a small
> amount of reflex on the trailing edge, (TE up) and the seal could
> compromise that
> Graham
>
> Peter Timm wrote:
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>> Graham,
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>> the flaps are only sealed in the up position, by the leading edge of
>> the flaps pressing against the seal attached to the inside of
>> the channel. Sealing the flaps in the down position would defeat the
>> benefit of slotted flaps with their own lift producing
>> air-foil,in my opinion. The old L 13 Blanik sailplanes used to have
>> such flap-seals, which would then deteriorate over time.
>> However, there are now all kinds of such seals available, including
>> those stocked by camper-trailer and marine suppliers
>> and installation is particularly easy on the Europa. Try it, you'll
>> like it!
>>
>> Peter Timm, # 110
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