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Kevin Bonds

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Location: Nashville, Tn

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject: Another XL Down - Brazil

Thanks Gig

I had missed that P.S. After reading it, I am wondering where CH got the 

info about the Barcelona crash. He stated that the pilot was diving at 

180 mph making abrupt maneuvers for the crowd. I don't remember seeing 

this anywhere. Wonder where the info came from.



Kevin  Bonds



Gig Giacona wrote:

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 As far as speculative posts please keep in mind that the well written post James just made is in a thread about an

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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:26 pm Post subject: Another XL Down - Brazil

DO NOT ARCHIVE

More importantly, how would you know about the 180mph?

I guess the Spaniards have telemetry.

Kevin Bonds wrote:

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 Thanks Gig

 I had missed that P.S. After reading it, I am wondering where CH got 

 the info about the Barcelona crash. He stated that the pilot was 

 diving at 180 mph making abrupt maneuvers for the crowd. I don't 

 remember seeing this anywhere. Wonder where the info came from.

 Kevin  Bonds

 Gig Giacona wrote:

> 

> <wr.giacona(at)suddenlink.net>

>

> As far as speculative posts please keep in mind that the well written 

> post James just made is in a thread about an

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n85ae

Joined: 14 Mar 2007
Posts: 403

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: Another XL Down - Brazil

I can't believe this ...



FOUR pages of speculation about what failed, and the details of the crash 

are not even released.



WELL OK THEN ...



I say, what happened is - the timer went off upstairs and God said, ok 

times up - Blamo.



You guys really ought to take a break from the list for a week or two and

think about other things. There is no information on the crash yet. 



Regards,

Jeff

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leinad

Joined: 19 Sep 2006
Posts: 283
Location: Central Virginia

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: Another XL Down - Brazil

Listers,

I debated whether to share this email exchange with you, and have decided to do so, as I believe it's possible (speculation) that it may have been a factor in this particular tragedy.

Dan



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Hi Dan.

 

Thank you for your words!!!

Sorry, I stayed there only some minutes.

I'll tell for him :)

 

Roberto Brito.

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Daniel Dempsey 

To: Roberto Ap. Rodrigues de Brito 

Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:53 PM

Subject: Re: Zodiac by Airfox's videos..

Beautiful Planes Roberto!  I'd advise your freind Richardo to ease up a little on the high speed, high G stuff.  Tell him it's not a crop duster!

I understand I just missed you at the Sun N' Fun barbeque.  

Good luck.

Dan Dempsey

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Roberto Ap. Rodrigues de Brito 

To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; 

Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:20 PM

Subject: Zodiac by Airfox's videos..

Hi All, 

 

See these videos!!!

 

First, the Zodiac #2 (XL TD Jab 3300, Sensenich).

It belongs my friend Ricardo Lopes, Agricultural Pilot almost 19.000 hs as pilot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlpLeVvep7k&feature=related

 

Second, the Zodiac #5  (XL Jab 3300, Sensenich, Leather Seats, Enigma, Balistic Parachute and AP True Track).

It belongs my friend Raimundo Florêncio, note the new main gear!! Higher and nicer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kopooikq7D4

 

Rgds, 

 

Roberto Brito.

Airfox Ultraleves.

www.airfox.com.br 

 

Brazil

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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject: Another XL Down - Brazil

Just a very short note:

   

  If you read it well,  at least for my poor english understanding,   He says that diving at 180 (probably a speed HE got  when actualy testing the XL prototype in a dive)  then pulling  up as a bomb diver will stess the airplane.  I dont find where He says  that THAT specific airplane did that.

   

  Probably I am all wrong, but just want to be fair.   

   

  Back to MUTE and READ.

   

  Saludos

  Gary Gower

  Do not archive.

   

  



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Thanks Gig

I had missed that P.S.        Be a better friend, newshound, and  [quote][b]

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William Dominguez

Joined: 09 Apr 2008
Posts: 118

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:22 pm Post subject: Another XL Down - Brazil

I wonder the same thing. I read several Spanish news reports about the accident plus the preliminary report, none of them mention anything specifically about abrupt maneuvers for the crowd. But it was speculated in the news that the plane was having engine problems and was going to attempt an emergency landing at a soccer field. But there was a game going on in the field and the pilot apparently decided to avoid the field, then the accident happened. 



It was also mention in some of the news that the son of one of the persons aboard the plane was playing in the field. 



However, there's no mention of any of this in the official preliminary report.



William Dominguez

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Miami Florida

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