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Charles Heathco

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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:47 am Post subject: Battery problem

I have to replace batty, rg25xc now near $200. Ive  been told that 300 amp cold cranking lawntractor batty would serve just as well.  Im not sure, anybody here have experience or knowledge about this? Charlie  Heathco

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ronlee(at)pcisys.net
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:28 am Post subject: Battery problem

have you checked the Odyssey batteries?

  

 PC925 is probably a similar capacity

  

 Ron Lee

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denis.walsh(at)comcast.ne
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:36 am Post subject: Battery problem

I used several of those in the past, with mixed results.  Past six or so years I have gone with Odyssey with universal good results. Vans calls them out now for RVs.  Can be had for 100, if you shop around.  just screw some wood spacers in the battery box. Have use both 680 and 625



Works for me.

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Charles Heathco

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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:53 am Post subject: Battery problem

Who makes this Odessey, plug in webb, no result.  Chas

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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:04 am Post subject: Battery problem

In a message dated 5/19/2008 8:56:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  cheathco(at)cox.net writes:

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		  Who makes this Odessey, plug in webb, no    result. 	


 

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 I suppose it would help you to find it were Odyssey spelled correctly.    

 N1GV (RV-6A, Flying 887hrs, O-360-A1A, C/S, Silicon  Valley) 





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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:14 am Post subject: Battery problem

From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of  Vanremog(at)aol.com

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  In a message dated 5/19/2008 8:56:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  cheathco(at)cox.net writes:

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		  Who makes this Odessey, plug in webb, no    result. 	


 

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 I suppose it would help you to find it were Odyssey spelled correctly.    

 N1GV (RV-6A, Flying 887hrs, O-360-A1A, C/S, Silicon  Valley) 





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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:14 am Post subject: Battery problem

Aircraft Spruce carries  them



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  In a message dated 5/19/2008 8:56:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  cheathco(at)cox.net writes:

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		  Who makes    this Odessey, plug in webb, no result. 	


 

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 I suppose it would help you to find it were Odyssey spelled correctly.    

 N1GV (RV-6A, Flying 887hrs, O-360-A1A, C/S, Silicon  Valley) 





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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:26 am Post subject: Re: Battery problem

Here's the link: http://www.odysseyfactory.com/

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carlosh(at)structuralaz.c
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:35 am Post subject: Battery problem

http://www.odysseybatteries.com/



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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:50 am Post subject: Battery problem

Alot of places carry them. I got mine from a local Batteries Plus store. 

Same price if not a few bucks cheaper and no delivery cost.

Here's the web page:   http://www.odysseybatteries.com/



Carlos



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     Who makes this Odessey, plug in webb, no result.



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 I suppose it would help you to find it were Odyssey spelled correctly.

  

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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:41 am Post subject: Battery problem

I just ordered one from here.



http://www.batteryplex.com/odyssey-detail.cfm?model=PC680



This well be my second Odyessy, I have had the one that is in my RV-6 

now since Jan. of 2003 and

it still works great even after no use for several weeks. I am only 

buying a new one because I need a

new battery for my Honda Goldwing so am going to take the one from 

airplane and put in motorcycle.

Charles Heathco wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   I have to replace batty, rg25xc now near $200. Ive been told that 300 

 amp cold cranking lawntractor batty would serve just as well. Im not 

 sure, anybody here have experience or knowledge about this? Charlie 

 Heathco

wdleonard(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:35 am Post subject: Battery problem

With my electrically dependant ignition and avionics, I wanted to maximize the battery that will fit into the stock battery box.  This is what I came up with, after hearing Someone else had good luck with panasonic sealed lead batteries:

 

http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/battery/oem/images/pdf/Panasonic_VRLA_LC-R1233P.pdf



it is 33 Amp.hr, deep cycle, and can be mounted in any position like the oddessey.  In fact, the description seems very much like that of the oddessy batteries:

 

http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/battery/oem/chem/seal/index.html



Have used mine for a year now with great success.  I paid about $110 for it.

 

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 On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Jerry Springer <jsflyrv(at)verizon.net (jsflyrv(at)verizon.net)> wrote:

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 I just ordered one from here.

 

 http://www.batteryplex.com/odyssey-detail.cfm?model=PC680

 

 

 

 This well be my second Odyessy, I have had the one that is in my RV-6 now since Jan. of 2003 and

 it still works great even after no use for several weeks. I am only buying a new one because I need a

 new battery for my Honda Goldwing so am going to take the one from airplane and put in motorcycle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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		   I have to replace batty, rg25xc now near $200. Ive been told that 300 amp cold cranking lawntractor batty would serve just as well. Im not sure, anybody here have experience or knowledge about this? Charlie Heathco

 

 

 

 

 

 	
 

 

 

 

 

 



	


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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:11 pm Post subject: Battery problem

Charles Heathco wrote:  	  Quote: 	
		              I have to replace batty, rg25xc now near $200. Ive been told that 300 amp cold cranking lawntractor batty would serve just as well. Im not sure, anybody here have experience or knowledge about this?

 	
 I've a little tractor battery in my Grumman ...... which I switch out with a core battery every annual.  It's only 4 years old, and since I don't document it    I don't know how long the last one lasted!!!

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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject: Battery problem

Odysseys work...why anguish over it.  

  

 Chuck Jensen  

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Mark Phillips in TN

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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: Battery problem

In a message dated 05/19/2008 10:39:43 AM Central Daylight Time, denis.walsh(at)comcast.net writes:

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		  I have to replace batty, rg25xc now near $200. 	


 Or try one of these from Digi-key.com- A Panasonic VSLA 20 ah unit currently offered for $80:

  

 http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=P231-ND

  

 I've quite successfully used these in O-320 and IO-360 installations...

  

 From The PossumWorks in TN

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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:39 pm Post subject: Battery problem

Other batteries work too. 



The problem with the odysseys is that the biggest one which fits inside the battery box is only 18ah, and that is not big enough for my preference (electric ignition, fuel pumps, and flight instruments).

 

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 On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Chuck Jensen <cjensen(at)dts9000.com (cjensen(at)dts9000.com)> wrote:

[quote]        Odysseys work...why anguish over it.  

  

 Chuck Jensen  

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denis.walsh(at)comcast.ne
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:46 am Post subject: Battery Problem

Not a stupid question.  Rather an excellent observation, and a good  

prompt for a discussion of battery needs for our RVs.

First, you should check the subject to insure the readers respond .

Most would probably contend that the primary role for the aircraft  

battery is to carry you to a safe landing in the event of an  

alternator failure.  Secondary is the start.  Therefore the 18 amp is  

good for start since it has a good cranking amperage; however could be  

marginal if you have a heavy essential load and a need to go quite a  

way if alternator fails.

So the debate will rage on regarding the relative merits of a failure  

warning system, an essential bus, a backup battery/alternator, and or  

a bigger battery.  A further  consideration is a dedicated battery for  

ignition or EFIS.

My current preference for my VFR RV is to have the odyssey but with  

magneto ignition and a light load which includes an internal battery  

for both GPS and EFIS.  But if I  had an automotive type powerplant  

with electric fuel feed. EEC, and ignition, I would feel different.

On May 20, 2008, at 2:29 AM, Mick Muller wrote:

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 Hello Electric buffs. I have a question that may appear stupid, but  

 I'll take my chances.

 Below is a statement made by a lister recently:

> Subject: Re: Battery problem

>

> Other batteries work too.

>

> The problem with the odysseys is that the biggest one which fits  

> inside the

> battery box is only 18ah, and that is not big enough for my  

> preference

> (electric ignition, fuel pumps, and flight instruments).

 If I had electric ignition fuel pumps flight instruments etc that  

 when running  should use say 30 amps in total.

 If my  alternator that was putting out 55Amp hours, why should I  

 worry that the battery  was not rated at 30 amps? The main task of  

 the battery is to start the big fan at the front. Once that is  

 running, the Alternator should be able to handle the entire load and  

 then some. So the real question should be, what is my essential bus  

 load , and how long do I want my battery to last b4 I need to get on  

 the ground?? Wouldn't it make more sense to have two batteries rated  

 at  say 18 amp/hours each rather than a single battery rated at 35  

 amp hours??

 Mick

cjensen(at)dts9000.com
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 4:04 am Post subject: Battery problem

David,

  

 Unless  you need the extra battery weight of a larger battery for W&B, as some  canards do, why not install an E-Buss so you can shed load.  The 18ah  battery will last as long as a 30ah one if you shed load properly, and it  will get you home equally as well, including IFR.  But hey, if its a  'personal preference thing', load 'em up, you're entitled to whatever floats  your boat, or anchors your airplane.

 

Chuck Jensen 

 

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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:15 am Post subject: Battery Problem

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		  >> The problem with the odysseys is that the biggest one which fits  inside 

>> the >>> battery box is only 18ah, and that is not big enough for my 

>> preference >>> (electric ignition, fuel pumps, and flight instruments).


	


This is INCORRECT.  I have an Odyssey 925 in my RV-6A battery

box and am ASSUMING that it is the stock battery box.



You can get the dimensions of the 925 easily to see if it will fit.



Ron Lee

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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:14 am Post subject: Battery Problem

I used the Odessey 925 as well.  I did have to turn it so the terminals were on the side to fit my stock RV-8 battery mount (not a problem for the battery as far as I know).  My 'alternator out' battery drain is about 12 amps for all system in my 'all electric' rotary engine installation..  I can reduce that to about 9 amps by switching off non-essential stuff in a pinch.

   

 Tracy Crook  

 On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Ron Lee <ronlee(at)pcisys.net (ronlee(at)pcisys.net)> wrote:

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		  The problem with the odysseys is that the biggest one which fits  inside the >>> battery box is only 18ah, and that is not big enough for my preference >>> (electric ignition, fuel pumps, and flight instruments).

 	
	
	




This is INCORRECT.  I have an Odyssey 925 in my RV-6A battery

box and am ASSUMING that it is the stock battery box.



You can get the dimensions of the 925 easily to see if it will fit.

 

Ron Lee 

  

 



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