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brian

Joined: 02 Jan 2006
Posts: 643
Location: Sacramento, California, USA

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:02 am Post subject: water skiing

Ah, found it. Here is the link to the video on bush flying with the

example of a super-cub landing on water using its tundra tires.



http://www.bigrockslongprops.com/



My father said that he used to do it in the SNJ, SBD, and later with the

F8F. He says that, at speed, it is almost impossible to get the tires to

sink into the water. I guess it is just like practicing wheel landings.



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cdustercc

Joined: 13 Feb 2006
Posts: 10
Location: Hertford, NC

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:15 am Post subject: Re: water skiing

It sure is rough on a plane though.  I ran an agtruck on water a few years ago and you could see the wing flexing outboard of the strut attach point.  The water wasn't quite glassy but it wasn't what you would consider rough either.  Other planes might do better without the spring landing gear.  

     I saw a video similar to the one you described where the bush pilot would land on water, fast taxi up to a sand bar and then cut the power right at the shoreline.  Those guys could land a supercub on about 100 feet of solid surface like that.  Then they would take off the same way!

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drc(at)wscare.com
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:55 am Post subject: water skiing

I've got some pics of the Wilga on frozen lake Winnebago this winter  

- right off the end of 27 at OSH.  I had never landed on the ice with  

wheels before, just skis, so after several passes I touched the  

mains, like a wheel landing but not enough to compress the trailing  

shocks.  If you know anything about Wilgas - they really are not  

meant for wheel landings - they really are designed for 3 point  

landings.  I "drove" the Wilga about a mile on the ice with the  

tailwheel up and the trailing link mains extended - quite fun and  

very stable.  Of course you can keep your direction into the wind  

which was about 25 knots that day.  Groundspeed with full flaps was  

about 35 knots.  I'll try to get the pic's scanned into the  

computer.  It was fun and all the ice sailors and sturgeon fisherman  

seemed to enjoy it !!



I must admit I would not do it on "soft" water !!  But can see the  

technique being quite the same and not too difficult.

I have also seen the supercubs landed that way.  In fact during OSH  

last year I spent half a day with the Wilga and a flight of 8  

supercubs flying up Door County on the Lake Michigan side going to  

Washington Island.  They spend quite amount of time enjoying the  

water and the sand bars - a few of these guys touch on the water   

first.  The supercubs base at NewHolstein - between MTW and OSH -  

they also party like crazy and have a nice group of guys.  They like  

Yaks alot.  Maybe a combined cook out next year ?  Any thoughts ?



I also have some cockpit video of Sergei "critiquing" my flight, I am  

editing it down to a managable size for web posting and he just  

emailed me to OK it.  You'll enjoy and with some of the discussion  

lately about bad habits it will convince you to get some instruction  

with a pro.  I plan on having him come to MTW/OSH again this year.



Herb

On Feb 28, 2006, at 10:00 AM, Brian Lloyd wrote:



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 Ah, found it. Here is the link to the video on bush flying with the

 example of a super-cub landing on water using its tundra tires.



 http://www.bigrockslongprops.com/



 My father said that he used to do it in the SNJ, SBD, and later  

 with the

 F8F. He says that, at speed, it is almost impossible to get the  

 tires to

 sink into the water. I guess it is just like practicing wheel  

 landings.



 -- 

 Brian Lloyd                         361 Catterline Way

 brian-yak at lloyd dot com          Folsom, CA 95630

 +1.916.367.2131 (voice)             +1.270.912.0788 (fax)



 I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty  

 things . . .

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ReadeG(at)Cairnwood.com
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:49 am Post subject: water skiing

Herb and Others -



The water landing clips are great - when I really learn how to fly I'd like

to try that!  Please post the pics and any clips you have.



I've been appeasing the masses here on the east coast giving rides in the

Wilga - everyone wants a ride in the flying grasshopper.



I didn't realize until recently that the AI-14 was the original engine (or

some variant) in the CJ's.  That explains why we were able to get a new air

distribution valve from Doug.  I also flew one with an M-14P conversion -

talk about climb - what fun.  



Reade

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Valkyre1(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:13 am Post subject: water skiing

Looking forward to the video Herb. On the water ski  subject... I flew a Hughes 500 (rotor wingie thingie) up the Turnigan  arm and then just North of Anchorage for some salmon fishing a few  years ago. 

  

 Looking down at the tree lined river, I saw  three tiny J-3 Cubs sitting on what I thought were impossible to access sandbars  and have wondered how the heck they got in there ever since. Mystery solved.  Anyone who thinks that the pilot isn't the main component in aircraft  performance....well, 'nuff said.

  

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