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Any tricks to re-mount the seat-track pins after installing the seats? I don’t see how I’m going to be able to get my hand or a ratchet down in there between seat and wall . . .
TDT
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tdt(at)aurora.aero (tdt(at)aurora.aero)
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:37 am Post subject: Seat track pin |
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I used a 100# daughter-in-law with a very small hand to do the job, and it worked quite well ( I didn't get a single scratch). I will rent her out at a reasonable rate.
Steve Mills N750SM (reserved)
RV-10 40486 Slow-build Eggenfellner E-6TI
Naperville, Illinois
Finishing kit, engine install
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dawson-Townsend,Timothy
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Subject: Seat track pin
Any tricks to re-mount the seat-track pins after installing the seats? I don’t see how I’m going to be able to get my hand or a ratchet down in there between seat and wall . . .
TDT
40025
Tim Dawson-Townsend
tdt(at)aurora.aero (tdt(at)aurora.aero)
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)
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Ray.R.Doerr(at)sprint.com
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:14 am Post subject: Seat track pin |
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I installed the bolt head in the tight area and the washer and nut is then under the bottom cushion. Simply remove the Velcro on the bottom cushion and use an open end wrench in the tight area on the bolt head and then a ratchet on the nut end.
Thank You
Ray Doerr
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Subject: Seat track pin
Any tricks to re-mount the seat-track pins after installing the seats? I don’t see how I’m going to be able to get my hand or a ratchet down in there between seat and wall . . .
TDT
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Tim Dawson-Townsend
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 8:17 am Post subject: Seat track pin |
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Funny you should post while I am trying to find a way to 'fix' the seat rail problem. I'm nowhere near needing to fit the seats, but I thought I'd pull them out and see what they 'feel' like. First, I started looking for the page where you bolt the middle rail support ..... well, you know how that turned out!!!
Some things I didn't like about the seat rails ..... As you know, you have to bolt the pin on AFTER you slide the seat in. My fix at the moment is to leave the aft stop off. Countersink the bar with the slots so the screws are flush.
The other thing I didn't like was the pin is supposed to be next to the tunnel ...... and those flying might comment ..... and I think it's almost a 1/2 gainer into the cabin to grab the handle and slide the seat back. I think the pin should be next to the door so you can reach it easily while on the wing.
That brought me to the next 'problem' ..... wouldn't it be better to slide the seat further back so you could step in on the metal in front of the seat instead of on the seat????
Is it a non-issue??
Linn
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Any tricks to re-mount the seat-track pins after installing the seats? I don’t see how I’m going to be able to get my hand or a ratchet down in there between seat and wall . . .
TDT
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Tim Dawson-Townsend
tdt(at)aurora.aero (tdt(at)aurora.aero)
617-500-4812 (office)
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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 8:48 am Post subject: Seat track pin |
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I always put the pin on the outside by the door for the very reason you mention and because the center armrest/console doesn't allow much room by the tunnel. Also, with the seat all the way back, you can put your foot on the metal in front of the seat. Your whole foot won't fit, but your heal will, and that's what matters. It makes it a lot easier to get in and out, especially if you put a little piece of wing walk material there for grip. I don't think I'd want to be able to move the seat much further back, and certainly wouldn't want to take the back stop off or the seat would end of sliding all the way back and coming off the rails when a newbie is getting in.
Just my $.02
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Saint Aviation, Inc.
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On May 27, 2008, at 11:58 AM, linn Walters wrote:
| Quote: | Funny you should post while I am trying to find a way to 'fix' the seat rail problem. I'm nowhere near needing to fit the seats, but I thought I'd pull them out and see what they 'feel' like. First, I started looking for the page where you bolt the middle rail support ..... well, you know how that turned out!!!
Some things I didn't like about the seat rails ..... As you know, you have to bolt the pin on AFTER you slide the seat in. My fix at the moment is to leave the aft stop off. Countersink the bar with the slots so the screws are flush.
The other thing I didn't like was the pin is supposed to be next to the tunnel ...... and those flying might comment ..... and I think it's almost a 1/2 gainer into the cabin to grab the handle and slide the seat back. I think the pin should be next to the door so you can reach it easily while on the wing.
That brought me to the next 'problem' ..... wouldn't it be better to slide the seat further back so you could step in on the metal in front of the seat instead of on the seat????
Is it a non-issue??
Linn
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Dawson-Townsend,Timothy wrote: | Quote: | Any tricks to re-mount the seat-track pins after installing the seats? I don’t see how I’m going to be able to get my hand or a ratchet down in there between seat and wall . . .
TDT
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The plans call for the pin to be on the outside. I think they might say somewhere that you can put them on the inside if you desire, but that does not look like the optimal place to me.
BTW, I just installed Greg Hale's seat adjustment levers and am really pleased with them. Nice workmanship and an easy install that makes a very nice improvement over the Van's knuckle scrapers. You can see them at Greg's web site. http://www.nwacaptain.com/
David Maib
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On Tuesday, May 27, 2008, at 11:56AM, "Jesse Saint" <jesse(at)saintaviation.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I always put the pin on the outside by the door for the very reason
you mention and because the center armrest/console doesn't allow much
room by the tunnel. Also, with the seat all the way back, you can put
your foot on the metal in front of the seat. Your whole foot won't
fit, but your heal will, and that's what matters. It makes it a lot
easier to get in and out, especially if you put a little piece of wing
walk material there for grip. I don't think I'd want to be able to
move the seat much further back, and certainly wouldn't want to take
the back stop off or the seat would end of sliding all the way back
and coming off the rails when a newbie is getting in.
Just my $.02
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Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On May 27, 2008, at 11:58 AM, linn Walters wrote:
> Funny you should post while I am trying to find a way to 'fix' the
> seat rail problem. I'm nowhere near needing to fit the seats, but I
> thought I'd pull them out and see what they 'feel' like. First, I
> started looking for the page where you bolt the middle rail
> support ..... well, you know how that turned out!!!
>
> Some things I didn't like about the seat rails ..... As you know,
> you have to bolt the pin on AFTER you slide the seat in. My fix at
> the moment is to leave the aft stop off. Countersink the bar with
> the slots so the screws are flush.
>
> The other thing I didn't like was the pin is supposed to be next to
> the tunnel ...... and those flying might comment ..... and I think
> it's almost a 1/2 gainer into the cabin to grab the handle and slide
> the seat back. I think the pin should be next to the door so you
> can reach it easily while on the wing.
>
> That brought me to the next 'problem' ..... wouldn't it be better to
> slide the seat further back so you could step in on the metal in
> front of the seat instead of on the seat????
>
> Is it a non-issue??
> Linn
> do not archive
>
> Dawson-Townsend,Timothy wrote:
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>> Any tricks to re-mount the seat-track pins after installing the
>> seats? I don?t see how I?m going to be able to get my hand or a
>> ratchet down in there between seat and wall . . .
>>
>> TDT
>> 40025
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>> Tim Dawson-Townsend
>> tdt(at)aurora.aero
>> 617-500-4812 (office)
>> 617-905-4800 (mobile)
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>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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ddddsp1(at)juno.com
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 9:36 am Post subject: Seat track pin |
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Two tips on the Seat track pins................#1 Put nut plates on the bracket and then ratchet the bolts in from the seat out. #2 Weld on a 2 1/2" extension to the T handle so it is easier to grap. Otherwise you will be FISHING your hand deep down along the outer seat to find the T handle whne adjusting your seat position.
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dfletourneau(at)comcast.n
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:09 am Post subject: Seat track pin |
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Steve
Have not seen you in over a year. How close are you to getting the 10 into the air.
David LeTourneau
Houston, TX
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Steve Mills N750SM (reserved)
RV-10 40486 Slow-build Eggenfellner E-6TI
Naperville, Illinois
Finishing kit, engine install
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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:11 AM
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Subject: Seat track pin
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617-905-4800 (mobile)
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dlm46007(at)cox.net
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:51 am Post subject: Seat track pin |
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The plans clearly call for the pin/lock to be outboard. Put the bolt head outboard and the locking nuts under the seat. small quarter inch drive ought to do it. try HF.
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 8:59 AM
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Subject: Re: Seat track pin
Funny you should post while I am trying to find a way to 'fix' the seat rail problem. I'm nowhere near needing to fit the seats, but I thought I'd pull them out and see what they 'feel' like. First, I started looking for the page where you bolt the middle rail support ..... well, you know how that turned out!!!
Some things I didn't like about the seat rails .... As you know, you have to bolt the pin on AFTER you slide the seat in. My fix at the moment is to leave the aft stop off. Countersink the bar with the slots so the screws are flush.
The other thing I didn't like was the pin is supposed to be next to the tunnel ...... and those flying might comment ..... and I think it's almost a 1/2 gainer into the cabin to grab the handle and slide the seat back. I think the pin should be next to the door so you can reach it easily while on the wing.
That brought me to the next 'problem' ..... wouldn't it be better to slide the seat further back so you could step in on the metal in front of the seat instead of on the seat????
Is it a non-issue??
Linn
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Any tricks to re-mount the seat-track pins after installing the seats? I don’t see how I’m going to be able to get my hand or a ratchet down in there between seat and wall . . .
TDT
40025
Tim Dawson-Townsend
tdt(at)aurora.aero (tdt(at)aurora.aero)
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)
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David Maib wrote: | Quote: | | Quote: | --> RV10-List message posted by: David Maib <dmaib(at)mac.com> (dmaib(at)mac.com)
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Thanks David! My bad! I got confused in there somewhere! So that's a non-issue. Per Jessie, the seat travel is a non-issue too. I guess I need to build and keep the engineer under lock and key!
Linn
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David Maib
40559
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On Tuesday, May 27, 2008, at 11:56AM, "Jesse Saint" <jesse(at)saintaviation.com> (jesse(at)saintaviation.com) wrote:
| Quote: | I always put the pin on the outside by the door for the very reason
you mention and because the center armrest/console doesn't allow much
room by the tunnel. Also, with the seat all the way back, you can put
your foot on the metal in front of the seat. Your whole foot won't
fit, but your heal will, and that's what matters. It makes it a lot
easier to get in and out, especially if you put a little piece of wing
walk material there for grip. I don't think I'd want to be able to
move the seat much further back, and certainly wouldn't want to take
the back stop off or the seat would end of sliding all the way back
and coming off the rails when a newbie is getting in.
Just my $.02
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Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On May 27, 2008, at 11:58 AM, linn Walters wrote:
| Quote: | Funny you should post while I am trying to find a way to 'fix' the
seat rail problem. I'm nowhere near needing to fit the seats, but I
thought I'd pull them out and see what they 'feel' like. First, I
started looking for the page where you bolt the middle rail
support ..... well, you know how that turned out!!!
Some things I didn't like about the seat rails ..... As you know,
you have to bolt the pin on AFTER you slide the seat in. My fix at
the moment is to leave the aft stop off. Countersink the bar with
the slots so the screws are flush.
The other thing I didn't like was the pin is supposed to be next to
the tunnel ...... and those flying might comment ..... and I think
it's almost a 1/2 gainer into the cabin to grab the handle and slide
the seat back. I think the pin should be next to the door so you
can reach it easily while on the wing.
That brought me to the next 'problem' ..... wouldn't it be better to
slide the seat further back so you could step in on the metal in
front of the seat instead of on the seat????
Is it a non-issue??
Linn
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Albert Gardner
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Greg's seat adjustment levers are very, very nice and I'd recommend them to
every one but make it even harder to install the pin block. BUT, if you use
nut plates instead of lock nuts it's easy to install the bolts. Now if I
could just find a way to make the seat back lock more user friendly...
Albert Gardner
N991RV
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