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The BaronVonEvil

Joined: 23 Jun 2006
Posts: 76
Location: Walla Walla, WA.

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:45 am Post subject: Insurance, Running Naked for now

Hi All,



Well just got off the phone with Falcon regarding my request for insurance on My Kolb Firestar II. 



They said until I have 200hrs total time and 25hrs tailwheel that no one would write a policy.



I have about 100 hrs of Logged time in various spam cans and registered ultrallights and about the same amount of un- official time in my Firestar ( Pre-registration ).



So what is a person to do besides run around "Naked in the Sky" until he builds enough time.



Only time will tell... 



Carlos G

BaronVonEvil

Dana

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 1047
Location: Connecticut, USA

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:14 am Post subject: Insurance, Running Naked for now

At 12:45 PM 6/12/2008, The BaronVonEvil wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  



Hi All,



Well just got off the phone with Falcon regarding my request for insurance 

on My Kolb Firestar II.



They said until I have 200hrs total time and 25hrs tailwheel that no one 

would write a policy.



I have about 100 hrs of Logged time in various spam cans and registered 

ultrallights and about the same amount of un- official time in my Firestar 

( Pre-registration ).



So what is a person to do besides run around "Naked in the Sky" until he 

builds enough time.



Only time will tell... 


	


Try USUA, I don't think their insurance program (through First Flight) has 

such drastic limitations.



-Dana

--

  Of all the forces in the world, only the Federal Government has enough 

power left to destroy America.

Ricochet

Joined: 29 May 2008
Posts: 36
Location: Fresno, CA

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:31 am Post subject: Insurance, Running Naked for now

Carlos,



The easy solution to your problem and perhaps cheaper is to join the  

USUA and purchase your insurance through the insurance company  

affiliated with them, First Flight Insurance   

www.firstflightinsurance.com.



Jerry



On Jun 12, 2008, at 9:45 AM, The BaronVonEvil wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Hi All,



 Well just got off the phone with Falcon regarding my request for  

 insurance on My Kolb Firestar II.



 They said until I have 200hrs total time and 25hrs tailwheel that  

 no one would write a policy.



 I have about 100 hrs of Logged time in various spam cans and  

 registered ultrallights and about the same amount of un- official  

 time in my Firestar ( Pre-registration ).



 So what is a person to do besides run around "Naked in the Sky"  

 until he builds enough time.



 Only time will tell... 



 Carlos G

 BaronVonEvil





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187606#187606

lucien

Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Posts: 721
Location: santa fe, NM

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:03 am Post subject: Re: Insurance, Running Naked for now

 	  Ricochet wrote: 	
		  Carlos,



The easy solution to your problem and perhaps cheaper is to join the  

USUA and purchase your insurance through the insurance company  

affiliated with them, First Flight Insurance   

www.firstflightinsurance.com.



Jerry

	




Be prepared to be disappointed tho. There are only a couple of actual underwriters out there of aircraft insurance policies and it's likely you'll just get turned down by the same people going through USUA.



Give it a shot, but I BTDT getting insurance for my titan. Basically, you don't have a lot of choices, you're stuck with only one or two.



Flying w/o insurance is perfectly legal tho - last I checked, FnAA makes the rules for aviation, not insurance companies. 



I say fly without it until you get the hours - trailer it to someplace that doesn't require insurance if you have to....



LS

_________________
LS
Titan II SS

slyck(at)frontiernet.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:20 pm Post subject: Insurance, Running Naked for now

naked in the sky? now there's a novel concept.  Sure glad I had my  

pants along for the ride when

I ditched in the alfalfa two weeks ago. Made recruiting help a lot  

easier.

Nettles would have been bad too.



I did fly it back but the windy weather has kept me ground bound  

since then.  This morning,

all patched up, super preflight, gas still left over from the  

abbreviated flight, off I went.



Beautiful day.  Like with all modifications that give you that  

additional 5-10 mph, my radiator

fairing seems to be functional.  In addition the coolant recovery  

tank is still accessible.

Prop repitched so I can get better than 5000 rpm on takeoff.



Naked? (insurance that is) yup, I rarely carry a passenger, if I hit  

a house my worries are over.

Only go into obscure strips and neighbor's.

Hope somebody feeds the dog.

BB

MkIII

suzuki G10

do not archive



On 12, Jun 2008, at 12:45 PM, The BaronVonEvil wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Hi All,



 Well just got off the phone with Falcon regarding my request for  

 insurance on My Kolb Firestar II.



 They said until I have 200hrs total time and 25hrs tailwheel that  

 no one would write a policy.



 I have about 100 hrs of Logged time in various spam cans and  

 registered ultrallights and about the same amount of un- official  

 time in my Firestar ( Pre-registration ).



 So what is a person to do besides run around "Naked in the Sky"  

 until he builds enough time.



 Only time will tell... 



 Carlos G

 BaronVonEvil





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187606#187606

planecrazzzy
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: Insurance, Running Naked for now

Did you talk to "Jim Stewart" at Falcon....



I'm with him.... I didn't need all the time your talking about....



I pay $450.00 per year....



 I cancel each year at Winter in this Cold azz State...

.

.

Gotta Fly...

Mike & "Jaz" in MN

.

.

.

russ(at)rkiphoto.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:43 pm Post subject: Insurance, Running Naked for now

Jerry

Do you know if USUA will write insurance for an N-numbered Kolb?

Russ

do  not archive



On Jun 12, 2008, at 1:25 PM, Jerry Jones wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Carlos,



 The easy solution to your problem and perhaps cheaper is to join  

 the USUA and purchase your insurance through the insurance company  

 affiliated with them, First Flight Insurance   

 www.firstflightinsurance.com.



 Jerry



 On Jun 12, 2008, at 9:45 AM, The BaronVonEvil wrote:



> 

> <grageda(at)innw.net>

>

> Hi All,

>

> Well just got off the phone with Falcon regarding my request for  

> insurance on My Kolb Firestar II.

>

> They said until I have 200hrs total time and 25hrs tailwheel that  

> no one would write a policy.

>

> I have about 100 hrs of Logged time in various spam cans and  

> registered ultrallights and about the same amount of un- official  

> time in my Firestar ( Pre-registration ).

>

> So what is a person to do besides run around "Naked in the Sky"  

> until he builds enough time.

>

> Only time will tell... 

>

> Carlos G

> BaronVonEvil

>

>

> Read this topic online here:

>

> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187606#187606

>

>

russ(at)rkiphoto.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:46 pm Post subject: Insurance, Running Naked for now

BB

Never (almost) met a dog I didn't like. I'll feed your dog -- but pls  

don't make me!

do  not archive

On Jun 12, 2008, at 5:18 PM, robert bean wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 naked in the sky? now there's a novel concept.  Sure glad I had my  

 pants along for the ride when

 I ditched in the alfalfa two weeks ago. Made recruiting help a lot  

 easier.

 Nettles would have been bad too.

 I did fly it back but the windy weather has kept me ground bound  

 since then.  This morning,

 all patched up, super preflight, gas still left over from the  

 abbreviated flight, off I went.

 Beautiful day.  Like with all modifications that give you that  

 additional 5-10 mph, my radiator

 fairing seems to be functional.  In addition the coolant recovery  

 tank is still accessible.

 Prop repitched so I can get better than 5000 rpm on takeoff.

 Naked? (insurance that is) yup, I rarely carry a passenger, if I  

 hit a house my worries are over.

 Only go into obscure strips and neighbor's.

 Hope somebody feeds the dog.

 BB

 MkIII

 suzuki G10

 do not archive

 On 12, Jun 2008, at 12:45 PM, The BaronVonEvil wrote:

> 

> <grageda(at)innw.net>

>

> Hi All,

>

> Well just got off the phone with Falcon regarding my request for  

> insurance on My Kolb Firestar II.

>

> They said until I have 200hrs total time and 25hrs tailwheel that  

> no one would write a policy.

>

> I have about 100 hrs of Logged time in various spam cans and  

> registered ultrallights and about the same amount of un- official  

> time in my Firestar ( Pre-registration ).

>

> So what is a person to do besides run around "Naked in the Sky"  

> until he builds enough time.

>

> Only time will tell... 

>

> Carlos G

> BaronVonEvil

>

>

> Read this topic online here:

>

> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187606#187606

>

Dana

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 1047
Location: Connecticut, USA

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:13 pm Post subject: Insurance, Running Naked for now

At 06:39 PM 6/12/2008, Russ Kinne wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  



Do you know if USUA will write insurance for an N-numbered Kolb?


	


I'm pretty sure they will.



-Dana

--

  New safety announcement from the Department of Homeland 

Security:  Securely duct tape shut any books you may own about civil 

liberties or the U.S. Constitution.

Ricochet

Joined: 29 May 2008
Posts: 36
Location: Fresno, CA

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:36 pm Post subject: Insurance, Running Naked for now

Russ, everything I've insured with them was N-numbered and  

experimental, not ELSA, although they do those to.  And...hours  

required?    Only your pencil knows how many hours you've flown,  

maybe more, maybe less.  Many, including me forget to log our hours  

on occasion.  I've heard some say they flew their 40 hours off in one  

day, but I'm sure they were joking.



Jerry

On Jun 12, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Russ Kinne wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Jerry

 Do you know if USUA will write insurance for an N-numbered Kolb?

 Russ

 do  not archive



 On Jun 12, 2008, at 1:25 PM, Jerry Jones wrote:



> 

>

> Carlos,

>

> The easy solution to your problem and perhaps cheaper is to join  

> the USUA and purchase your insurance through the insurance company  

> affiliated with them, First Flight Insurance   

> www.firstflightinsurance.com.

>

> Jerry

>

> On Jun 12, 2008, at 9:45 AM, The BaronVonEvil wrote:

>

>> 

>> <grageda(at)innw.net>

>>

>> Hi All,

>>

>> Well just got off the phone with Falcon regarding my request for  

>> insurance on My Kolb Firestar II.

>>

>> They said until I have 200hrs total time and 25hrs tailwheel that  

>> no one would write a policy.

>>

>> I have about 100 hrs of Logged time in various spam cans and  

>> registered ultrallights and about the same amount of un- official  

>> time in my Firestar ( Pre-registration ).

>>

>> So what is a person to do besides run around "Naked in the Sky"  

>> until he builds enough time.

>>

>> Only time will tell... 

>>

>> Carlos G

>> BaronVonEvil

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Read this topic online here:

>>

>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187606#187606

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

Dana

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 1047
Location: Connecticut, USA

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject: Insurance, Running Naked for now

At 02:03 PM 6/12/2008, lucien wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  Flying w/o insurance is perfectly legal tho - last I checked, FnAA makes 

the rules for aviation, not insurance companies.



I say fly without it until you get the hours - trailer it to someplace 

that doesn't require insurance if you have to....


	


The airport where I keep my plane requires insurance for all aircraft based 

there.  I feel better having it anyway... not for in flight, but I'd hate 

to be caught by a gust of wind when taxiing and ding somebody else's 

$250,000 airplane...



-Dana



--

  Give a monkey a brain and he'll swear he's the center of the universe.

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