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J5Cub

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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:22 am Post subject: Garmin Experimental Only Radios

I was wondering what the difference between the radios they sell as Experimental only and the ones that they sell for Certified aircraft?  Is there an easy way to tell them apart?  I am looking to get either a 430 or a 530 and have been looking at used units but don't want to buy one of the experimental ones if they are not legal to install.

  

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 Greg



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Sam

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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:49 am Post subject: Garmin Experimental Only Radios

If you are not sure if it is legal to install, check with the A&P or repair station that is going to sign off the installation.  Too often, an owner comes in with something that he/she has purchased and the installer has to jump through all sorts of hoops.

 

Don't buy it unless they tell you they can sign it off.



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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:09 am Post subject: Garmin Experimental Only Radios

Certified one's have an extra 0 at the end of the price tag 

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[quote]  I was wondering what the difference between the radios they sell as Experimental only and the ones that they sell for Certified aircraft?  Is there an easy way to tell them apart?  I am looking to get either a 430 or a 530 and have been looking at used units but don't want to buy one of the experimental ones if they are not legal to install.

  

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Bill Denton

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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:51 am Post subject: Garmin Experimental Only Radios

My understanding is that all Garmin units are for certified aircraft, but must be installed according to the installation manual and appropriate TSO’s.  

   

Some Garmin dealers do sell units with a harness for experimental aircraft, which allows them to get around Garmin’s requirements for their dealers to do the installation.  

   

But the radios themselves are exactly the same, and all are approved for certified aircraft…  

     

Thanks!  

   

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I was wondering what the difference between the radios they sell as Experimental only and the ones that they sell for Certified aircraft?  Is there an easy way to tell them apart?  I am looking to get either a 430 or a 530 and have been looking at used units but don't want to buy one of the experimental ones if they are not legal to install.  

    

   

    

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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:23 am Post subject: Garmin Experimental Only Radios

Good Morning Sam,

  

 Way out of my area of expertise, but I think you will find that there is no  difference at all. 

  

 If you buy it for an experimental, you can install it yourself and still  get a warranty. If it is installed in a certificated airplane, it must be  installed by an Garmin approved radio shop to get the warranty.

  

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  In a message dated 6/16/2008 7:51:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  sam.hoskins(at)gmail.com writes:

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		  If you    are not sure if it is legal to install, check with the A&P or repair    station that is going to sign off the installation.  Too often, an owner    comes in with something that he/she has purchased and the installer has to    jump through all sorts of hoops.



Don't buy it unless they tell you they    can sign it off.



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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:45 am Post subject: Garmin Experimental Only Radios

I should have prefaced it with - "if you are installing it in a certificated aircraft".  Otherwise, you are correct.



Sam



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		       Good Morning Sam,

  

 Way out of my area of expertise, but I think you will find that there is no  difference at all. 

  

 If you buy it for an experimental, you can install it yourself and still  get a warranty. If it is installed in a certificated airplane, it must be  installed by an Garmin approved radio shop to get the warranty.

  

 Happy  Skies,



Old Bob

AKA

Bob Siegfried

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628 West  86th Street

Downers Grove, IL 60516

630 985-8502 

Stearman  N3977A

Brookeridge Air Park LL22

  

  In a message dated 6/16/2008 7:51:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  sam.hoskins(at)gmail.com (sam.hoskins(at)gmail.com) writes:

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		  If you    are not sure if it is legal to install, check with the A&P or repair    station that is going to sign off the installation.  Too often, an owner    comes in with something that he/she has purchased and the installer has to    jump through all sorts of hoops.



Don't buy it unless they tell you they    can sign it off.



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J5Cub

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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:31 pm Post subject: Re: Garmin Experimental Only Radios

Thank you for the replies.



Looks like the radios are the same and the FEDs won't care which I have installed.  The only difference is that the Garmin warranty would likely not be honored if new "experimental aircraft" radio was installed in a certified aircraft.  My mechanic says he can install the radio and he knows a radio shop that will do the certification.



Since a new "experimental aircraft" 430 or 530 can be purchased for about the same price as a used one it might be worth investigating.  I wouldn't have a warranty either way and the certified aircraft radios are about $3000 more.  That is a lot to pay for a warranty.



Greg



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