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jcumins(at)jcis.net
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:46 am Post subject: HS doublwers and j channels

Well I am almost finished with my inventory down to the small parts bags.  I noticed the doublers and j-channel parts are all curved.  I would think they would ne straight. They are used to be doublers for the HS front and rear spars and other spars.  Has any one seen this in there kits besides me.  

   

All other parts look perfect and all in tact.  Box arrived via Fedex Ground.  

   

Thanks  

   

John   

   

40864 inventory mode hope to start building this weekend  

   

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egohr1

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 38
Location: Oklahoma City

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:56 am Post subject: Re: HS doublwers and j channels

This is normal.



Some bending of the thick punched parts is unavoidable due to the forces need to cut the thicker stock.  Just bend it back over the edge of a bench prior to match drilling.

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ricksked(at)embarqmail.co
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:56 am Post subject: HS doublwers and j channels

The forming process tends to curve the parts, once you start to match drill them and cleco them they end up being straight...unless they are REALLY curved bad. I recall the spar doublers being this way for sure, I just used hand pressure to bring them back to flat. 

Rick Sked 

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pascal(at)rv10builder.net
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:12 am Post subject: HS doublwers and j channels

you'll be doing a lot of this.. look at the plans  under the HS (or respective section) and see what they look like when you  install them. Match the part number to the respective section. The only  curving I recall is one that required me to do it.

 Congrats on the new kit!

 Pascal

  



  From: John Cumins (jcumins(at)jcis.net) 

 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:42 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com) 

 Subject: HS doublwers and j channels

 



  

Well I am almost finished with my  inventory down to the small parts bags.  I noticed the doublers and  j-channel parts are all curved.  I would think they would ne straight. They  are used to be doublers for the HS front and rear spars and other spars.   Has any one seen this in there kits besides me. 

  

All other parts look perfect and all  in tact.  Box arrived via Fedex Ground. 

  

Thanks 

  

John  

  

40864 inventory mode hope to start  building this weekend 

 

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n212pj(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:14 am Post subject: HS doublwers and j channels

Normal.  Check several of the web sites  (jessen-rv10.com is one) to see how to get them straight.  In short, for  the thick HS doubler, put in a padded vise at several different positions and  using hand forces, just push in opposite direction of the curve, working your  way along the length of the doubler a little at a time until straight.  No  need to whack it with anything resembling a club.  Not sure about the  J-curves.  I think those come back into alignment through cleco and  riveting.  



 [quote]         From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com    [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John    Cumins

Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:42 AM

To:    rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: HS doublwers and j    channels

   

      

Well I am almost finished with my    inventory down to the small parts bags.  I noticed the doublers and    j-channel parts are all curved.  I would think they would ne straight.    They are used to be doublers for the HS front and rear spars and other    spars.  Has any one seen this in there kits besides    me.   

    

All other parts look perfect and    all in tact.  Box arrived via Fedex Ground.   

    

Thanks   

    

John    

    

40864 inventory mode hope to start    building this weekend   

 

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jcumins(at)jcis.net
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:34 am Post subject: HS doublwers and j channels

Thanks so much everyone.  This saved me a phone call and looking stupid.  

   

I greatly appreciate all the great info and the sharing of ideas and concepts on this list.  

   

   

     

John   

   

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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen

 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:12 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: HS doublwers and j channels  

  

   

Normal.  Check several of the web sites (jessen-rv10.com is one) to see how to get them straight.  In short, for the thick HS doubler, put in a padded vise at several different positions and using hand forces, just push in opposite direction of the curve, working your way along the length of the doubler a little at a time until straight.  No need to whack it with anything resembling a club.  Not sure about the J-curves.  I think those come back into alignment through cleco and riveting.     	  Quote: 	
		    

       

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cumins

 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:42 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: HS doublwers and j channels  

Well I am almost finished with my inventory down to the small parts bags.  I noticed the doublers and j-channel parts are all curved.  I would think they would ne straight. They are used to be doublers for the HS front and rear spars and other spars.  Has any one seen this in there kits besides me.  

   

All other parts look perfect and all in tact.  Box arrived via Fedex Ground.  

   

Thanks  

   

John   

   

40864 inventory mode hope to start building this weekend  

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n212pj(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:52 am Post subject: HS doublwers and j channels

You will probably get a bunch of emails now, saying  something like, "there is no such thing as looking stupid or asking a stupid  question."  Which is true, although some of us cannot possibly look  anything other than stupid .  Anyway, don't hesitate to ask any  question.  Look in the archives, of course, but do not hesitate to ask a  question.  We are all in this together, and learning is part of it.   

  

 Having said all that, make sure that you do not settle for  advice on this list.  There are very smart folks here giving good advice,  but don't get lulled into thinking that just because there is a group think or  group consensus on a matter of interest that it is correct.  Always check  with the factory, and even then be careful about who is giving you the answer  and how deep they are likely to take it with you.  

  

 You are the builder and you need to therefore make the  ultimate decision about what is true and what is just group think.  Be  critical with yourself, with your decision making, and you will be a very  good builder.  

  

 John J

  

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 [quote]         From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com    [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John    Cumins

Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:28 AM

To:    rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: HS doublwers and j    channels

   

      

Thanks so much everyone.     This saved me a phone call and looking stupid.   

    

I greatly appreciate all the great    info and the sharing of ideas and concepts on this    list.   

    

    

       

John    

    

40864

            

   

From:    owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com    [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen

Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:12    AM

To:    rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: HS doublwers and    j channels

   

    

Normal.     Check several of the web sites (jessen-rv10.com is one) to see how to get them    straight.  In short, for the thick HS doubler, put in a padded vise at    several different positions and using hand forces, just push in opposite    direction of the curve, working your way along the length of the doubler a    little at a time until straight.  No need to whack it with anything    resembling a club.  Not sure about the J-curves.  I think those come    back into alignment through cleco and riveting.      	  Quote: 	
		       

                

     

From:      owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cumins

Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:42      AM

To:      rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: HS doublwers and j      channels     

Well I am almost finished with      my inventory down to the small parts bags.  I noticed the doublers and      j-channel parts are all curved.  I would think they would ne straight.      They are used to be doublers for the HS front and rear spars and other      spars.  Has any one seen this in there kits besides      me.     

      

All other parts look perfect and      all in tact.  Box arrived via Fedex  Ground.     

      

Thanks     

      

John           

      

40864 inventory mode hope to      start building this weekend     

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ricksked(at)embarqmail.co
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:24 am Post subject: HS doublwers and j channels

Besides...When you call Van's there is a good chance you will feel stupid when you hang up regardless. so don't worry about that!!   

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n212pj(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:38 am Post subject: HS doublwers and j channels

Now, now, Rick!  That put a smile on my face.   

  

 JJ

  

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 [quote]         From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com    [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick    Sked

Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:21 AM

To:    rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: HS doublwers and j    channels

   

   

Besides...When you call Van's there is a good chance you will feel stupid    when you hang up regardless. so don't worry about that!!     

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pascal(at)rv10builder.net
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject: HS doublwers and j channels

In all seriousness, I have called Van's a few times  at random hours (not their tech hours). Scott and Joe have been great. Scott  knows his stuff and made a real effort to assist me with some issues, Joe  usually recommended I put it on a "to do list" and follow-up later- like after  everything is riveted?? that's a Gotcha! but they really are a good group of  folks that provide guidance. Yes there is one that will make you look like a  buffoon but as one gets more confidence those calls become less  personal.

 For sure, as a new builder, take advantage of the  support Van's provides when needed.

 Pascal 



   From: Rick Sked (ricksked(at)embarqmail.com) 

 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:20 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com) 

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Besides...When you call Van's there is a good chance you will feel stupid  when you hang up regardless. so don't worry about that!!   

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