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danny shepherd



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:36 am    Post subject: graham singleton mod Reply with quote

Hi All,
Does any know the mod number of Graham Singleton's firewall
mod? I'm just finishing the paper work for the final inspection. I
don't know about you guys, but I'm finding this the hardest part of the
build. Sad

Danny G-c.e.r.i


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John Heykoop



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:10 pm    Post subject: graham singleton mod Reply with quote

Hi Danny

Good question. I too have Graham Singleton's firewall mod and was just about to check with the LAA what the mod number is.

The LAA website shows mod 10024 "Removable composite firewall" as a mod approved "all of type" (Europa Classic only). Presumably this is Graham Singleton's mod.

However, Graham in his build instructions quotes a different mod number (mod 11123, as approved by the PFA for Europa Classic G-KWIP).

I have the XS version of Graham's mod and hopefully the LAA will approve this without any further paperwork on the back of mods 10024 and 11123. If another XS builder has already sorted this out with the LAA perhaps they could respond?

John Heykoop
XS mono G-JHKP

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Hi All,
Does any know the mod number of Graham Singleton's firewall
mod? I'm just finishing the paper work for the final inspection. I
don't know about you guys, but I'm finding this the hardest part of the
build. Sad

Danny G-c.e.r.i



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danny shepherd



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:17 am    Post subject: graham singleton mod Reply with quote

Cheers John,
I thought I was being "dum" not being able to find the mod number. Now I feel vindicated Smile .

Danny
XS tri G-CERI

JohnDHeykoop(at)aol.com (JohnDHeykoop(at)aol.com) wrote: [quote] Hi Danny

Good question. I too have Graham Singleton's firewall mod and was just about to check with the LAA what the mod number is.

The LAA website shows mod 10024 "Removable composite firewall" as a mod approved "all of type" (Europa Classic only). Presumably this is Graham Singleton's mod.

However, Graham in his build instructions quotes a different mod number (mod 11123, as approved by the PFA for Europa Classic G-KWIP).

I have the XS version of Graham's mod and hopefully the LAA will approve this without any further paperwork on the back of mods 10024 and 11123. If another XS builder has already sorted this out with the LAA perhaps they could respond?

John Heykoop
XS mono G-JHKP

In a message dated 19/06/2008 16:37:38 GMT Standard Time, danny(at)mcwalterscafe.co.uk (danny(at)mcwalterscafe.co.uk) writes:
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "danny(at)mcwalterscafe.co.uk" (danny(at)mcwalterscafe.co.uk) <danny(at)mcwalterscafe.co.uk> (danny(at)mcwalterscafe.co.uk)

Hi All,
Does any know the mod number of Graham Singleton's firewall
mod? I'm just finishing the paper work for the final inspection. I
don't know about you guys, but I'm finding this the hardest part of the
build. Sad

Danny G-c.e.r.i


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:11 am    Post subject: graham singleton mod Reply with quote

John, Danny

What John has said is correct. There are at least two mods covering Graham's firewall. I have, in the past, chased PFA to get one of these turned into a standard mod but with no results. At the moment, in theory, you need specific approval for the mod on your aircraft BUT recently LAA have started to treat "All of Type" mods as if they are "Standard".

What I suggest you do is document your build as incorporating 11123 and put the paperwork in. If the PFA come back with a query then I will try and sort it out with Andy Draper.


Where on the Web site did you find " The LAA website shows mod 10024 "Removable composite firewall" as a mod approved "all of type" (Europa Classic only). I have it on a list produced for me by PFA in 2006 but cannot find it via the Web site.

Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 200 hours
Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear)
e-mail mods(at)europaclub.org.uk
or direct g-iani(at)ntlworld.com

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:02 am    Post subject: graham singleton mod Reply with quote

Wilco and thanks Danny

G-IANI wrote: [quote] John, Danny

What John has said is correct. There are at least two mods covering Graham's firewall. I have, in the past, chased PFA to get one of these turned into a standard mod but with no results. At the moment, in theory, you need specific approval for the mod on your aircraft BUT recently LAA have started to treat "All of Type" mods as if they are "Standard".

What I suggest you do is document your build as incorporating 11123 and put the paperwork in. If the PFA come back with a query then I will try and sort it out with Andy Draper.


Where on the Web site did you find " The LAA website shows mod 10024 "Removable composite firewall" as a mod approved "all of type" (Europa Classic only). I have it on a list produced for me by PFA in 2006 but cannot find it via the Web site.

Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 200 hours
Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear)
e-mail mods(at)europaclub.org.uk (mods(at)europaclub.org.uk)
or direct g-iani(at)ntlworld.com (g-iani(at)ntlworld.com)

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John Heykoop



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:37 am    Post subject: graham singleton mod Reply with quote

Ian

On the LAA website select Engineering - Mods & Repairs - TL3.07 Using a mod approved for all type.

Scroll down on that page and you will find a list of all the "mods of all type" approved for the Europa. Mod 10024 is the first one on this list.

John Heykoop
XS mono G-JHKP

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Where on the Web site did you find " The LAA website shows mod 10024 "Removable composite firewall" as a mod approved "all of type" (Europa Classic only). I have it on a list produced for me by PFA in 2006 but cannot find it via the Web site.




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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:27 am    Post subject: graham singleton mod Reply with quote

JohnDHeykoop(at)aol.com a écrit :
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Ian

On the LAA website select Engineering - Mods & Repairs - TL3.07 Using
a mod approved for all type.

Scroll down on that page and you will find a list of all the "mods of
all type" approved for the Europa. Mod 10024 is the first one on this
list.

John Heykoop
XS mono G-JHKP

In a message dated 20/06/2008 11:12:03 GMT Standard Time,
g-iani(at)ntlworld.com writes:


Where on the Web site did you find " The LAA website shows mod
10024 "Removable composite firewall" as a mod approved "all of
type" (Europa Classic only). I have it on a list produced for me
by PFA in 2006 but cannot find it via the Web site.



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Hi Graham, what is LAA? Do you have site web adress?

Thanks

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mau11(at)free.fr


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John Heykoop



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:57 am    Post subject: graham singleton mod Reply with quote

Michel

The PFA (Popular Flying Association) has changed its name to LAA (Light Aircraft Association).

Its website address is www.laa.uk.com

John Heykoop
XS mono G-JHKP

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Hi Graham, what is LAA? Do you have site web adress?
Thanks



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:27 am    Post subject: graham singleton mod Reply with quote

Do I find how to make this? In the same place?
Will

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Wilco and thanks Danny

G-IANI wrote:
John, Danny

What John has said is correct. There are at least two mods covering Graham's firewall. I have, in the past, chased PFA to get one of these turned into a standard mod but with no results. At the moment, in theory, you need specific approval for the mod on your aircraft BUT recently LAA have started to treat "All of Type" mods as if they are "Standard".

What I suggest you do is document your build as incorporating 11123 and put the paperwork in. If the PFA come back with a query then I will try and sort it out with Andy Draper.


Where on the Web site did you find " The LAA website shows mod 10024 "Removable composite firewall" as a mod approved "all of type" (Europa Classic only). I have it on a list produced for me by PFA in 2006 but cannot find it via the Web site.

Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 200 hours
Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear)
e-mail mods(at)europaclub.org.uk (mods(at)europaclub.org.uk)  
or direct g-iani(at)ntlworld.com (g-iani(at)ntlworld.com)
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