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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:22 pm    Post subject: Racing and handicaps Reply with quote

One of my customers just completed the Air Race Classic and placed 14th behind a Piper Cherokee 180 and a whole bunch of Cessna 182s.  The handicap speed on the Piper was over 10 knots slower than the Tiger.  Fair enough.  But, the handicap speed on the 182s were also in the 10 to 15 knot range slower than the Tiger.  

What gives?


How is this handicap speed determined?  The Tiger was given a 126 knot handicap.  One of the top 3 182s had a 111 knot handicap.  If their winning speed was only 5 knots faster than the Tigers, the 182s will always have a 10 knot advantage over a TIger regardless of how you look at it.  


Keep in mind, compared to a Tiger, the C-182 has more horsepower, greater rate of climb, longer range, greater fuel load, and a faster cruise speed.  


How is the handicap speed (usually) determined?  

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:23 am    Post subject: Racing and handicaps Reply with quote

They use Relativity in their calculations as an independent variable in
the equation.
Spend an hour in a Tiger, and it seems like 20 minutes. Spend 20 minutes
in a 182....

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teamgrumman(at)aol.com wrote:
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One of my customers just completed the Air Race Classic and placed
14th behind a Piper Cherokee 180 and a whole bunch of Cessna 182s.
The handicap speed on the Piper was over 10 knots slower than the
Tiger. Fair enough. But, the handicap speed on the 182s were also in
the 10 to 15 knot range slower than the Tiger.

What gives?

How is this handicap speed determined? The Tiger was given a 126 knot
handicap. One of the top 3 182s had a 111 knot handicap. If their
winning speed was only 5 knots faster than the Tigers, the 182s will
always have a 10 knot advantage over a TIger regardless of how you
look at it.

Keep in mind, compared to a Tiger, the C-182 has more horsepower,
greater rate of climb, longer range, greater fuel load, and a faster
cruise speed.

How is the handicap speed (usually) determined?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:30 am    Post subject: Racing and handicaps Reply with quote

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One of my customers just completed the Air Race Classic and placed 14th behind a Piper Cherokee 180 and a whole bunch >of Cessna 182s. The handicap speed on the Piper was over 10 knots slower than the Tiger. Fair enough. But, the handicap >speed on the 182s were also in the 10 to 15 knot range slower than the Tiger.


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How is this handicap speed determined? The Tiger was given a 126 knot handicap. One of the top 3 182s had a 111 knot >handicap. If their winning speed was only 5 knots faster than the Tigers, the 182s will always have a 10 knot advantage over a >TIger regardless of how you look at it.



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Keep in mind, compared to a Tiger, the C-182 has more horsepower, greater rate of climb, longer range, greater fuel load, and >a faster cruise speed.



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