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flying(at)qdea.com
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 Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:25 am Post subject: BRS ? |
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Why would a BRS not have helped?
Perhaps you could share your logic with us.
A BRS is generally considered useful for un-landable terrain and loss
of control, unless the altitude isn't enough (300 feet AGL is the
anecdotal minimum height), or the airspeed is too high for deployment
(around 150 MPH).
Hugh Sontag
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No the BRS would not have helped.
Nick
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:04 am Post subject: BRS ? |
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In a message dated 7/8/2008 11:26:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, flying(at)qdea.com writes:
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Why would a BRS not have helped?
Perhaps you could share your logic with us.
A BRS is generally considered useful for un-landable terrain and loss
of control, unless the altitude isn't enough (300 feet AGL is the
anecdotal minimum height), or the airspeed is too high for deployment
(around 150 MPH).
Hugh Sontag
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Hugh,
I am just guessing, but I think you gave the answer.
Nick knows more than he is at liberty to discuss....not to mention the feelings of friends. I would not suggest much of a detailed answer on this medium. Part of the issue is the incomplete nature of the facts and conclusions.
Perhaps it is best to just take your answer..... too low or too fast. However, it could also be preocupation with trying to fly the plane. I cannot remember the name of the pilot and instructor, but the BRS equipted plane that ran into a building in New York City did not deploy either. They were too busy trying to make the turn.
There have been a significant number of aircraft WITH some kind of recovery parachute that had fatal crashes anyway. BRS publishes the "saves" but not the "failure to deploy".
My personal view is that the BRS makes your wife happier....but then the value drops off dramatically. While I am planning to install one in a hot single seat homebuilt I am redoing, I would not do one in a Lightning. In my opinion, a BRS is useful if you dont trust the airframe or if you simply have too high a stall speed and fly over rough terrain. Otherwise it is dead weight...with the exciting potential of accidental discharge!
Doug Koenigsberg
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flying(at)qdea.com
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:37 am Post subject: BRS ? |
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There's no question that pilots tend not to deploy a BRS in
circumstances where it may have been the best option.
I can understand the reluctance, because it's very much a last
resort, and we pilots are by nature optimistic and not inclined to
lose hope.
Hugh
| Quote: | In a message dated 7/8/2008 11:26:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
flying(at)qdea.com writes:
Why would a BRS not have helped?
Perhaps you could share your logic with us.
A BRS is generally considered useful for un-landable terrain and loss
of control, unless the altitude isn't enough (300 feet AGL is the
anecdotal minimum height), or the airspeed is too high for deployment
(around 150 MPH).
Hugh Sontag
Hugh,
I am just guessing, but I think you gave the answer.
Nick knows more than he is at liberty to discuss....not to mention
the feelings of friends. I would not suggest much of a detailed
answer on this medium. Part of the issue is the incomplete nature
of the facts and conclusions.
Perhaps it is best to just take your answer..... too low or too
fast. However, it could also be preocupation with trying to fly
the plane. I cannot remember the name of the pilot and instructor,
but the BRS equipted plane that ran into a building in New York City
did not deploy either. They were too busy trying to make the turn.
There have been a significant number of aircraft WITH some kind of
recovery parachute that had fatal crashes anyway. BRS publishes
the "saves" but not the "failure to deploy".
My personal view is that the BRS makes your wife happier....but then
the value drops off dramatically. While I am planning to install
one in a hot single seat homebuilt I am redoing, I would not do one
in a Lightning. In my opinion, a BRS is useful if you dont trust
the airframe or if you simply have too high a stall speed and fly
over rough terrain. Otherwise it is dead weight...with the
exciting potential of accidental discharge!
Doug Koenigsberg
Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient
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