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Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:54 pm Post subject: SLICK MAGs

I recently became aware of what appears to be a developing  and 

potentially significant problem. Slick (Unison industries) has issued 2 

service bulletins for their Mags and LASAR ignitions. depending upon 

serial number applicability,  they require recurrent inspections (at)  5 

hours of ops and then at 15-20  hour intervals.  There has been some 

chatter on VAF about  this,  however the problem seems to be bigger 

than  reported, with  several magnetos failing  at relatively short  

time in service durations.  I recently heard of an RV-10 experiencing a 

mag failure (at) 50 hours . With nearly 150 RV-10's flying I'm curious as 

to the extent this problem has been seen in the community.  What are 

people experiencing/hearing?



Deems Davis # 406

'Its all done....Its just not put together'

http://deemsrv10.com/

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject: SLICK MAGs

I checked my s/n this weekend (didn't do an internal inspection of

the mag) and found that mine is before the S/N's listed, so I breathed

a huge sigh of relief.  But, I just heard of our pal Wayne up in

Alaska...y'all know him, and he hasn't had THAT many hours on his

plane, but I guess his mag was one affected and he just had it

go out up there....sounds like it was just a wreck inside.

I don't know what the heck Unison did...would be nice to know the

history, but it sure sounds like if you're in that s/n range, it's

a disaster waiting to happen....so I'd keep close tabs on it.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

do not archive

Deems Davis wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 I recently became aware of what appears to be a developing  and 

 potentially significant problem. Slick (Unison industries) has issued 2 

 service bulletins for their Mags and LASAR ignitions. depending upon 

 serial number applicability,  they require recurrent inspections (at)  5 

 hours of ops and then at 15-20  hour intervals.  There has been some 

 chatter on VAF about  this,  however the problem seems to be bigger 

 than  reported, with  several magnetos failing  at relatively short  

 time in service durations.  I recently heard of an RV-10 experiencing a 

 mag failure (at) 50 hours . With nearly 150 RV-10's flying I'm curious as 

 to the extent this problem has been seen in the community.  What are 

 people experiencing/hearing?

 

 Deems Davis # 406

 'Its all done....Its just not put together'

 http://deemsrv10.com/

sam(at)fr8dog.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: SLICK MAGs

The cap failed on my Bendix mag (at) 50 hours, could be a product wide problem.



Deems Davis wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 I recently became aware of what appears to be a developing  and 

 potentially significant problem. Slick (Unison industries) has issued 

 2 service bulletins for their Mags and LASAR ignitions. depending upon 

 serial number applicability,  they require recurrent inspections (at)  5 

 hours of ops and then at 15-20  hour intervals.  There has been some 

 chatter on VAF about  this,  however the problem seems to be bigger 

 than  reported, with  several magnetos failing  at relatively short  

 time in service durations.  I recently heard of an RV-10 experiencing 

 a mag failure (at) 50 hours . With nearly 150 RV-10's flying I'm curious 

 as to the extent this problem has been seen in the community.  What 

 are people experiencing/hearing?



 Deems Davis # 406

 'Its all done....Its just not put together'

 http://deemsrv10.com/

ron.mcgann(at)baesystems.
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject: SLICK MAGs

I knew nothing about this SB until Deems' email - thanks for the heads

up!!



Since my engine ex Vans was shipped mid last year, I expect that I will

have two problematic mags that need treatment.  With luck and since they

have not been used, I may be able to have them replaced under warranty.



I have never pulled a mag apart before and have little clue about what

may be involved to perform these inspections.  Can anyone shed any light

on basic mag maintenance, or provide a pointer to the relevant Slick

docs (eg L1363)?



I thought I was almost finished, but with 2 Vans SBs, one on the

Injector servo and now this, I doubt I will ever get there and wonder

what I've gotten myself into.



Ron

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Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:27 pm Post subject: SLICK MAGs

If I read the SB's correctly (that's a bif IF). the 1st one which 

contains the most restrictive and more frequent inspection cycles has a 

narrower serial number range. The implication is that this issue is 

related to more recent production (say within the last couple of years. 

However, the second SB, essentially broadens the serial number range, 

but makes the inspection cycle somewhat less onerous for the earlier 

produced units. I didn't know of Wayne's incident, but that's the 2n'd 

RV-10 with a mag failure that I've heard of with relatively few hours on 

the mag/s



Deems



Tim Olson wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 I checked my s/n this weekend (didn't do an internal inspection of

 the mag) and found that mine is before the S/N's listed, so I breathed

 a huge sigh of relief.  But, I just heard of our pal Wayne up in

 Alaska...y'all know him, and he hasn't had THAT many hours on his

 plane, but I guess his mag was one affected and he just had it

 go out up there....sounds like it was just a wreck inside.

 I don't know what the heck Unison did...would be nice to know the

 history, but it sure sounds like if you're in that s/n range, it's

 a disaster waiting to happen....so I'd keep close tabs on it.



 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

 do not archive

 Deems Davis wrote:

> 

>

> I recently became aware of what appears to be a developing  and 

> potentially significant problem. Slick (Unison industries) has issued 

> 2 service bulletins for their Mags and LASAR ignitions. depending 

> upon serial number applicability,  they require recurrent inspections 

> (at)  5 hours of ops and then at 15-20  hour intervals.  There has been 

> some chatter on VAF about  this,  however the problem seems to be 

> bigger than  reported, with  several magnetos failing  at relatively 

> short  time in service durations.  I recently heard of an RV-10 

> experiencing a mag failure (at) 50 hours . With nearly 150 RV-10's 

> flying I'm curious as to the extent this problem has been seen in the 

> community.  What are people experiencing/hearing?

>

> Deems Davis # 406

> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'

> http://deemsrv10.com/

>

Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: SLICK MAGs

I'm hoping the Kelly McMullen ,  John Cox, or Pat Thysen will chime in 

here on this, and shed some A&P insight. Some of the other lists have 

chatter that's pretty critical towards Unison.



Deems



Tim Olson wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 I checked my s/n this weekend (didn't do an internal inspection of

 the mag) and found that mine is before the S/N's listed, so I breathed

 a huge sigh of relief.  But, I just heard of our pal Wayne up in

 Alaska...y'all know him, and he hasn't had THAT many hours on his

 plane, but I guess his mag was one affected and he just had it

 go out up there....sounds like it was just a wreck inside.

 I don't know what the heck Unison did...would be nice to know the

 history, but it sure sounds like if you're in that s/n range, it's

 a disaster waiting to happen....so I'd keep close tabs on it.



 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

 do not archive

 Deems Davis wrote:

> 

>

> I recently became aware of what appears to be a developing  and 

> potentially significant problem. Slick (Unison industries) has issued 

> 2 service bulletins for their Mags and LASAR ignitions. depending 

> upon serial number applicability,  they require recurrent inspections 

> (at)  5 hours of ops and then at 15-20  hour intervals.  There has been 

> some chatter on VAF about  this,  however the problem seems to be 

> bigger than  reported, with  several magnetos failing  at relatively 

> short  time in service durations.  I recently heard of an RV-10 

> experiencing a mag failure (at) 50 hours . With nearly 150 RV-10's 

> flying I'm curious as to the extent this problem has been seen in the 

> community.  What are people experiencing/hearing?

>

> Deems Davis # 406

> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'

> http://deemsrv10.com/

>

robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:41 pm Post subject: SLICK MAGs

Ron,

	Now I feel awful when I goofed you about "almost being done."

Sorry, you will get there we have no doubts.

	I asked someone from the RV list to cross post his info on

inspection of his mags. Worth reading.



Robin



Do Not Archive

  



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dlm46007(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:30 pm Post subject: SLICK MAGs

One of the things to note is that the 0409xxxx series seem to be the retard

breaker mags and the 0408xxxx seem to be the non retard breaker mags.  



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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:35 am Post subject: SLICK MAGs

Yeah, and lucky me, after seeing your post I went back digging

for the SB's and saw the 2nd one, which DOES incorporate my

mag.  The nice thing is, I have over 250 hours, which puts

me at a less frequent inspection timing.....but it still doesn't

give me lots of warm fuzzies.  The real big thing that DOES

give me warm fuzzies is that I have a Lightspeed unit, so even

if my mag fails, my LSE should be working good....but hopefully

the mag timing isn't so far off if the mag fails that it

makes the engine run bad.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

do not archive

Deems Davis wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 If I read the SB's correctly (that's a bif IF). the 1st one which 

 contains the most restrictive and more frequent inspection cycles has a 

 narrower serial number range. The implication is that this issue is 

 related to more recent production (say within the last couple of years. 

 However, the second SB, essentially broadens the serial number range, 

 but makes the inspection cycle somewhat less onerous for the earlier 

 produced units. I didn't know of Wayne's incident, but that's the 2n'd 

 RV-10 with a mag failure that I've heard of with relatively few hours on 

 the mag/s

 

 Deems

 

 Tim Olson wrote:

> 

>

> I checked my s/n this weekend (didn't do an internal inspection of

> the mag) and found that mine is before the S/N's listed, so I breathed

> a huge sigh of relief.  But, I just heard of our pal Wayne up in

> Alaska...y'all know him, and he hasn't had THAT many hours on his

> plane, but I guess his mag was one affected and he just had it

> go out up there....sounds like it was just a wreck inside.

> I don't know what the heck Unison did...would be nice to know the

> history, but it sure sounds like if you're in that s/n range, it's

> a disaster waiting to happen....so I'd keep close tabs on it.

>

> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

> do not archive

> Deems Davis wrote:

>> 

>>

>> I recently became aware of what appears to be a developing  and 

>> potentially significant problem. Slick (Unison industries) has issued 

>> 2 service bulletins for their Mags and LASAR ignitions. depending 

>> upon serial number applicability,  they require recurrent inspections 

>> (at)  5 hours of ops and then at 15-20  hour intervals.  There has been 

>> some chatter on VAF about  this,  however the problem seems to be 

>> bigger than  reported, with  several magnetos failing  at relatively 

>> short  time in service durations.  I recently heard of an RV-10 

>> experiencing a mag failure (at) 50 hours . With nearly 150 RV-10's 

>> flying I'm curious as to the extent this problem has been seen in the 

>> community.  What are people experiencing/hearing?

>>

>> Deems Davis # 406

>> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'

>> http://deemsrv10.com/

>>

sam(at)fr8dog.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:06 am Post subject: SLICK MAGs

I also have a Lightspeed unit on the right, (top) side, and when my mag failed, I experienced no noticeable difference in engine operation. Until the next preflight run!

 

 

 Tim Olson wrote: [quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com> (Tim(at)myrv10.com)   

   

 Yeah, and lucky me, after seeing your post I went back digging   

 for the SB's and saw the 2nd one, which DOES incorporate my   

 mag.  The nice thing is, I have over 250 hours, which puts   

 me at a less frequent inspection timing.....but it still doesn't   

 give me lots of warm fuzzies.  The real big thing that DOES   

 give me warm fuzzies is that I have a Lightspeed unit, so even   

 if my mag fails, my LSE should be working good....but hopefully   

 the mag timing isn't so far off if the mag fails that it   

 makes the engine run bad.   

   

 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying   

 do not archive   

   

   

 Deems Davis wrote:   

    	  Quote: 	
		  --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis(at)cox.net> (deemsdavis(at)cox.net)     

     

 If I read the SB's correctly (that's a bif IF). the 1st one which contains the most restrictive and more frequent inspection cycles has a narrower serial number range. The implication is that this issue is related to more recent production (say within the last couple of years. However, the second SB, essentially broadens the serial number range, but makes the inspection cycle somewhat less onerous for the earlier produced units. I didn't know of Wayne's incident, but that's the 2n'd RV-10 with a mag failure that I've heard of with relatively few hours on the mag/s     

     

 Deems     

     

 Tim Olson wrote:     

      	  Quote: 	
		  --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com> (Tim(at)myrv10.com)       

       

 I checked my s/n this weekend (didn't do an internal inspection of       

 the mag) and found that mine is before the S/N's listed, so I breathed       

 a huge sigh of relief.  But, I just heard of our pal Wayne up in       

 Alaska...y'all know him, and he hasn't had THAT many hours on his       

 plane, but I guess his mag was one affected and he just had it       

 go out up there....sounds like it was just a wreck inside.       

 I don't know what the heck Unison did...would be nice to know the       

 history, but it sure sounds like if you're in that s/n range, it's       

 a disaster waiting to happen....so I'd keep close tabs on it.       

       

 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying       

 do not archive       

       

       

 Deems Davis wrote:       

        	  Quote: 	
		  --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis(at)cox.net> (deemsdavis(at)cox.net)         

         

 I recently became aware of what appears to be a developing  and potentially significant problem. Slick (Unison industries) has issued 2 service bulletins for their Mags and LASAR ignitions. depending upon serial number applicability,  they require recurrent inspections (at)  5 hours of ops and then at 15-20  hour intervals.  There has been some chatter on VAF about  this,  however the problem seems to be bigger than  reported, with  several magnetos failing  at relatively short  time in service durations.  I recently heard of an RV-10 experiencing a mag failure (at) 50 hours . With nearly 150 RV-10's flying I'm curious as to the extent this problem has been seen in the community.  What are people experiencing/hearing?         

         

 Deems Davis # 406         

 'Its all done....Its just not put together'         

 http://deemsrv10.com/         

         

       	
       

       

       

       

       

       

     	
     

     

     

     

     

   	
   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

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wayne.e(at)grandecom.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:13 am Post subject: SLICK MAGs

Thought I would chime in on the Slick mag issue  since I'm the recipient of one of their failures. On June 21st I left TX  starting on a flying trip up to and through Alaska that ended this last Sunday  July 6th back in TX. When I was in Anchorage getting ready to head  to Ketchican I had my right mag fail. I don't mean run rough it completely  drop off the earth and went to mag heaven. I don't know the technical  term but basically the lobe on the cam in the mag that lifts  the points to allow them to open was completely worn off, they call it the  breaker point cam. I'm sure all of you already know this but it's Lycoming  Service Bulletin 583 & 584 dated June 3rd.

  

 I have the Lasar system so I had that plus the left  mag remaining so if I had been where there was no repair station I still had  some options left to me. At the time of failure I had about 165 hours on the  engine.

  

 I was lucky and found a great shop on the  field in Anchorage to work on my problem, Aero Twin. These guys were probably  this best group I've ever worked with. I was flying with 12 other planes that  had to go on without me and the shop was trying their damndest to get me  back in the air so I could catch up with the group. They even worked through  their lunch hour to get me back in the air. Great bunch of guys. 

  

 My first problem was finding a mag, since as all of  you know that electronic ignition isn't widely used and available for general  aviation. So the shop manager was able to talk to Joe at Unison and he over  nighted me a new mag. The mag that he sent me is under their same service  bulletin as the one that was being replace, since they really don't have a know  fix yet, that I'm aware of. So I've just traded a bad problem for a known  problem. Sue at Aero Sport told me that probably all Slick mags from 2004 on  are affected. Isn't this amazing, they've been making these parts forever  and they find someone who will make them for $3 less and we end up with their  mess because of this.

  

 My second problem came when the shop didn't have  the Lasar timing tool. I called Unison and he didn't have any available to send  me with the mag and I then called Aero Sport Power, Sue, who I had been  communicating with on this, and she had one but they had a Canadian holiday this  next day and couldn't get it to me. I ended up calling my friend Steve Gross who  hangars his RV6 in my hangar, and he overnighted me my timing tool. I thought  this was kind of a funny statement, but maybe not, Joe from Unison said I should  always carry my timing tool with me in the plane. Boy that's confidence don't  you think! Oh well. 

  

 Anyway I was able to get back up and running and  was able to catch up with the group in Ketchican, so I guess the saying is all's  well that ends well. I guess for now :>}

  

 If any of you have any interest in seeing some of  the Alaskan photos that we took I created a blog for my grandkids where I made a  daily  posting               

  

 triptoalaska2008.blogspot.com     

  

  Actually with the lack of WIFI at one  location and this mag failure I got behind a little but I'm trying to get  it caught back up know. At the very bottom of the blog is a daily  folder of all the photos we took. There is some pretty interesting  country side in Alaska for those of you who haven't been there.

  

 Wayne Edgerton N602WT

  

  

  

  

  

  

             Time:      07:54:09 PM PST  US            From:      Deems Davis <deemsdavis(at)cox.net (deemsdavis(at)cox.net)>            Subject:      SLICK  MAGs       

      

      I recently  became aware of what appears to be a developing  and  

      potentially significant problem. Slick  (Unison industries) has issued 2 

      service  bulletins for their Mags and LASAR ignitions. depending upon  

      serial number applicability,  they  require recurrent inspections (at)  5 

      hours  of ops and then at 15-20  hour intervals.  There has been some  

      chatter on VAF about  this,   however the problem seems to be bigger 

       than  reported, with  several magnetos failing  at relatively  short  

      time in service durations.   I recently heard of an RV-10 experiencing a 

       mag failure (at) 50 hours . With nearly 150 RV-10's flying I'm curious as  

      to the extent this problem has been seen in  the community.  What are 

      people  experiencing/hearing?

       

      Deems Davis #  406

      'Its all done....Its just not put  together'

      http://deemsrv10.com/



   [quote][b]

wayne.e(at)grandecom.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:38 am Post subject: SLICK MAGs

By the way I forgot to mention that I lost a mag on  my first flight, so this is the second mag that I've lost. Makes a guy feel warm  and fuzzy huh!

  

 Wayne edgerton N602WT

  

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Kelly McMullen

Joined: 16 Apr 2008
Posts: 1188
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:38 am Post subject: SLICK MAGs

A Bendix mag is very different than a Slick and generally is very

reliable. Slick has had its ups and downs. Mainly use of forms of

plastic that aren't as heat resistant as needed.



On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Sam Marlow <sam(at)fr8dog.net> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 The cap failed on my Bendix mag (at) 50 hours, could be a product wide problem.

_________________
Kelly McMullen
A&P/IA, EAA Tech Counselor
KCHD

Kelly McMullen

Joined: 16 Apr 2008
Posts: 1188
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:15 am Post subject: SLICK MAGs

Makes one want to specify a Bendix mag or two when buying from one of

our favorite specialty engine shops, eh?



On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Wayne Edgerton <wayne.e(at)grandecom.net> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   By the way I forgot to mention that I lost a mag on my first flight, so this

 is the second mag that I've lost. Makes a guy feel warm and fuzzy huh!



 Wayne edgerton N602WT

_________________
Kelly McMullen
A&P/IA, EAA Tech Counselor
KCHD

sam(at)fr8dog.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:19 pm Post subject: SLICK MAGs

That's what I thought to, until I read this last post, describing how 

the points failed. It described my failure exactly.

Kelly McMullen wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 A Bendix mag is very different than a Slick and generally is very

 reliable. Slick has had its ups and downs. Mainly use of forms of

 plastic that aren't as heat resistant as needed.

 On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Sam Marlow <sam(at)fr8dog.net> wrote:

> 

>

> The cap failed on my Bendix mag (at) 50 hours, could be a product wide problem.

>

>

GenGrumpy(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: SLICK MAGs

Guys:

  

 As a reminder, the corrected copy of the SB contains the applicable serial  numbers that are affected.

  

 grumpy

 N184JM

  

 In a message dated 7/9/2008 6:36:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  Tim(at)MyRV10.com writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  -->    RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com>



Yeah, and    lucky me, after seeing your post I went back digging

for the SB's and saw    the 2nd one, which DOES incorporate my

mag.  The nice thing is, I have    over 250 hours, which puts

me at a less frequent inspection timing.....but    it still doesn't

give me lots of warm fuzzies.  The real big thing    that DOES

give me warm fuzzies is that I have a Lightspeed unit, so    even

if my mag fails, my LSE should be working good....but hopefully

the    mag timing isn't so far off if the mag fails that it

makes the engine run    bad.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

do not    archive

Deems Davis wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   --> RV10-List message posted    by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis(at)cox.net>

 

 If I read the SB's    correctly (that's a bif IF). the 1st one which 

 contains the most    restrictive and more frequent inspection cycles has a 

 narrower serial    number range. The implication is that this issue is 

 related to more    recent production (say within the last couple of years. 

 However, the    second SB, essentially broadens the serial number range, 

 but makes    the inspection cycle somewhat less onerous for the earlier 

 produced    units. I didn't know of Wayne's incident, but that's the 2n'd 

 RV-10    with a mag failure that I've heard of with relatively few hours on 

    the mag/s

 

 Deems

 

 Tim Olson wrote:

>    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson    <Tim(at)myrv10.com>

>

> I checked my s/n this weekend    (didn't do an internal inspection of

> the mag) and found that mine    is before the S/N's listed, so I breathed

> a huge sigh of    relief.  But, I just heard of our pal Wayne up in

>    Alaska...y'all know him, and he hasn't had THAT many hours on his

>    plane, but I guess his mag was one affected and he just had it

> go    out up there....sounds like it was just a wreck inside.

> I don't    know what the heck Unison did...would be nice to know the

> history,    but it sure sounds like if you're in that s/n range, it's

> a    disaster waiting to happen....so I'd keep close tabs on    it.

>

> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

> do    not archive

> Deems Davis    wrote:

>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis    <deemsdavis(at)cox.net>

>>

>> I recently became    aware of what appears to be a developing  and 

>>    potentially significant problem. Slick (Unison industries) has issued    

>> 2 service bulletins for their Mags and LASAR ignitions.    depending 

>> upon serial number applicability,  they    require recurrent inspections 

>> (at)  5 hours of ops and then    at 15-20  hour intervals.  There has been 

>> some    chatter on VAF about  this,  however the problem seems to be    

>> bigger than  reported, with  several magnetos    failing  at relatively 

>> short  time in service    durations.  I recently heard of an RV-10 

>> experiencing a    mag failure (at) 50 hours . With nearly 150 RV-10's 

>> flying I'm    curious as to the extent this problem has been seen in the 

>>    community.  What are people    experiencing/hearing?

>>

>> Deems Davis #    406

>> 'Its all done....Its just not put    together'

>> http://deemsrv10.com/

	

	


 

  



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robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject: SLICK MAGs

[quote]I am the proud owner of two brand spanking new defective SLICK Mag’s that are covered under the SB. Gezzz another thing to worry about on First Flight. RobinDo Not Archive  [b]

robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:05 pm Post subject: SLICK MAGs

 	  Quote: 	
		  I emailed BPE this morning regarding the joy of having TWO brand spanking new mags that fall under the SB. Rhonda did a little research and found a solution that gets around the SB / future inspections. She OK’d me to post this to the list: 	
  

Here is the pricing from the local accessory shop in Tulsa, Quality Aircraft Accessories.  Replace the carbon brush and cam, including labor for any Slick mag at or around 100 hours for $75/mag.  This would be Aero-Accessory replacement parts, so they would not be affected by the SB after the repair.    

   [quote]Justin Hicks at Quality can be reached directly at (918) 835-6948 for assistance.   I am not sure what it takes to do this yourself. The SB makes the replacement seem pretty simple.  Robin[b]

ron.mcgann(at)baesystems.
Guest

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject: SLICK MAGs

I expect any new engine or rebuilt engine with  new mags will be affected by the SB.  I bought my engine from Vans mid '07  and I too have dud mags.  I contacted Unison to see if I could have them  replaced under warranty - mine are brand new never run.  The simple issue  is that they have NO solution and have nothing better to replace them  with.  Given our deeeep south location, there are not many options with  alternate brush/cam suppliers, so I have no choice other than inspections every  15-20 hrs until 50hrs per the SB.  I just hope the mags are not difficult  to remove - I am having nightmares about dropping a support bracket or nut into  the engine accessory case already.

  

 cheers,

 Ron

 -187, Tailcone SB done, back to  finishing.



 [quote]         From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com    [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin    Marks

Sent: Friday, 11 July 2008 9:32 AM

To:    rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: SLICK    MAGs

   

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		  I emailed BPE this morning regarding the joy of having TWO brand spanking new mags that fall under the SB. Rhonda did a little research and found a solution that gets around the SB / future inspections. She OK’d me to post this to the list: 	
   

Here is the    pricing from the local accessory shop in Tulsa, Quality Aircraft    Accessories.  Replace the carbon brush and cam, including labor for any    Slick mag at or around 100 hours for $75/mag.  This would be    Aero-Accessory replacement parts, so they would not be affected by the SB    after the repair.     

  	  Quote: 	
		  Justin Hicks at Quality can be reached directly at (918) 835-6948 for assistance.   I am not sure what it takes to do this yourself. The SB makes the replacement seem pretty simple.  Robin



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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:11 am Post subject: SLICK MAGs

Just Checked my TMX IO-540 delivered in '07 and it looks like my engine is good.  My serial number is 0604 1519, model 6351 rev C.  The affected range is 0610xxxx thru 0804xxxx.



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