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Bill Chenoweth
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 Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:09 am Post subject: 912s installation |
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I'm going to start the conversion from my blue-head 582 to a 912S (on my IV-1200) next week and I'm hoping to find someone with some pictures of the 912S installation in the IV-1200 that I can use as a guide. I have the Kitfox IV firewall forward manual from John McBean but some pictures of the installation in general and in particular of the oil cooler and cabin heater installations would be very helpful.
The motor mount with side-mount brackets and other firewall forward stuff are available for sale at what I guarantee will be reasonable prices.
Bill
Albion, Maine
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lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:57 am Post subject: 912s installation |
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Bill,
I will send photos direct as there are a few. Mine was a 912 straight out
of the box, but I did help once with the tail end of a 912 installation
raplacing a 582. Ragarding the cowl. Everything fit, except we had to add
about two inches to the aft of the ring cowl as I recall.
Lowell
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Bill Chenoweth
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:43 am Post subject: 912s installation |
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Lowell,
Gottem - thanks very much. I like your cowl modification recollection.
Hope I have a similar experience.
Bill
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Float Flyr
Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:40 am Post subject: 912s installation |
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I’m in the throwes of doing just that to my model III-A which I expect is actually closer to a model II. I’m using the model IV Dynafocal mount and the first thing I’ve found is attaching the engione to the mount is probably easier to do before installing in the plane. One other item is the cooling hoses from the water pump to the cylinder heads will require having the studs (45 deg) will need to be turned a bit to get a decent access to putting the hoses on the pump. You may also need to turn the 45 deg studs on the aft cylinders to get a decent clearance on the aft hoses. These studs are held in place with green locktite ( penetrating) and will need to be very carefully heated to remove, clean and reinstall in the correct direction. It was advised to me that Llight Engine Rep[airs uses a rod turned down on a lathe to insert into the studs for removal. I don’t happen to have a lathe or any 1” aluminium stock so I had to substitute brass and a file. If you want to try this remember the old rule don’t grind anything that doesn’t spark so use a file. It may take a lot longer but it will be worth it.
Also be careful removing the top of the pump.. you may want to do that to get a better grasp on the part and to remove the O-ring that is inside the pump inlet.
Pictures following:
Lord mounts and wiring harness will be hard to position on the airplane. I recommend getting the engine fully read then install the engine and mount in one piece. Be careful to make sure the mount fits perfectly before starting working on the engine. This engine has the older style ignition and care must be taken with it.
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I removed the pump back plate to remove the hose nipples so they can be reinstalled in the right directions.
Looks like I may have to do the same thing with the nipples in the rear cylinders.
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Hose nipples may direct the hoses to rub on the motor mount. I expect to have to use longer hoses.
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I made a tool out of a piece of brass round stock to assist removing the nipples from the pump top plate. A careful amount of heat was applied to the nipple only to break the Locktite. Slow and easy using minimum heat to avoid cracking or pinching the nipples. Green, penetrating Locktite will be used to reinstall the nipples in a direction that won’t interfere with the mount.
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Noel Loveys
Campbellton, NL, Canada
CDN AME intern, PP-Rec
C-FINB, Kitfox III-A
Soon 912 W/ Warp, Aerocet 1100 floats
[url=noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca]noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca[/url]
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Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 1:35 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: 912s installation
I'm going to start the conversion from my blue-head 582 to a 912S (on my IV-1200) next week and I'm hoping to find someone with some pictures of the 912S installation in the IV-1200 that I can use as a guide. I have the Kitfox IV firewall forward manual from John McBean but some pictures of the installation in general and in particular of the oil cooler and cabin heater installations would be very helpful.
The motor mount with side-mount brackets and other firewall forward stuff are available for sale at what I guarantee will be reasonable prices.
Bill
Albion, Maine
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Bill Chenoweth
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:48 pm Post subject: 912s installation |
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Noel,
Thanks very much. After reading your comments I'm hoping the fact that I'm doing this with a IV-1200 will mean less complexity. Your thoughts on the mounting procedure sound about right from what I've recently learned and that is my plan. You're going to a 912 not a 912S, right?
Regards,
Bill
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Float Flyr
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:30 pm Post subject: 912s installation |
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Right... It’s an engine I got out of Illinois over the winter.
The mount I’m using is one for a mod IV that I got from John McB
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chenoweth
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 8:14 PM
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Subject: Re: 912s installation
Noel,
Thanks very much. After reading your comments I'm hoping the fact that I'm doing this with a IV-1200 will mean less complexity. Your thoughts on the mounting procedure sound about right from what I've recently learned and that is my plan. You're going to a 912 not a 912S, right?
Regards,
Bill
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Noel Loveys
Campbellton, NL, Canada
CDN AME intern, PP-Rec
C-FINB, Kitfox III-A
Soon 912 W/ Warp, Aerocet 1100 floats
[url=noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca]noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca[/url]
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chenoweth
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 1:35 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: 912s installation
I'm going to start the conversion from my blue-head 582 to a 912S (on my IV-1200) next week and I'm hoping to find someone with some pictures of the 912S installation in the IV-1200 that I can use as a guide. I have the Kitfox IV firewall forward manual from John McBean but some pictures of the installation in general and in particular of the oil cooler and cabin heater installations would be very helpful.
The motor mount with side-mount brackets and other firewall forward stuff are available for sale at what I guarantee will be reasonable prices.
Bill
Albion, Maine
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