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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:49 am    Post subject: Camloc frustration Reply with quote

Do any of you have Camloc frustration?

What do you do on the Lightning to keep from losing Camlocs when removing the cowl?

I understand that Spruce sells retaining rings/washers? Does this work with the Lightning cowl?

Jim!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:40 am    Post subject: Camloc frustration Reply with quote

I have the retaining rings on my camloc’s and they work fine. Good luck

John Davis



From: owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Langley
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Do any of you have Camloc frustration?

What do you do on the Lightning to keep from losing Camlocs when removing the cowl?

I understand that Spruce sells retaining rings/washers? Does this work with the Lightning cowl?

Jim!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:48 am    Post subject: Camloc frustration Reply with quote

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> Hello Jim

First, congrats on the inspection. Your airplane is a show stopper!

I do not have experience with the brand of Cam Locks used on Lightings, but the Cam Locks used on my other two airplanes were a pain in the $(at)&!. I finally removed all of them on both planes and installed nut plates on the lower half of the cowling and used stainless steel machine screws with rubber backed metal washer on the outside of the top half of the cowling. It was much faster and less frustrating and they never vibrated loose.

Gary Pennington
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:40 pm    Post subject: Camloc frustration Reply with quote

Thanks Gary for the ideas. I guess as I fly the airplane, I will figure it out.

This list is great for these kind of things.

Jim!

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Hello Jim



First, congrats on the inspection. Your airplane is a show stopper!



I do not have experience with the brand of Cam Locks used on Lightings, but the Cam Locks used on my other two airplanes were a pain in the $(at)&!. I finally removed all of them on both planes and installed nut plates on the lower half of the cowling and used stainless steel machine screws with rubber backed metal washer on the outside of the top half of the cowling. It was much faster and less frustrating and they never vibrated loose.



Gary Pennington
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: Camloc frustration Reply with quote

Jim and all,
Here is how I keep my CamLocs stored when I remove the cowling. We have also made one of these blocks for the prototype and both demos.
Buz


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:02 pm    Post subject: Camloc frustration Reply with quote

Great idea Buz, thanks

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Jim and all,

Here is how I keep my CamLocs stored when I remove the cowling. We have also made one of these blocks for the prototype and both demos.

Buz






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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:22 am    Post subject: Camloc frustration Reply with quote

Jim,

We drill all of our Camlocs holes in the cowl out to 5/16" and physically remove the camlocs from the cowl. Thanks to Buz we place the Camlocs in the block.

I've found, as you and many others have, that Camlocs fall out at the most inopportune times (i.e. in the grass, gravel, etc.) Also, it makes removing the upper cowl much easier, especially up by the last Camlocs next to the spinner.

Mark
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:30 am    Post subject: Camloc frustration Reply with quote

Tanks Mark.

In the long run, this may be the best solution as when taking the top cowl off, I never get all of the Camloc studs out all the way and then the cowl sticks. It might be better to just take them out each time. I guess we’ll see which way I like things best over time.

I’m looking forward to seeing you guys again on Friday.

Jim!

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Jim,



We drill all of our Camlocs holes in the cowl out to 5/16" and physically remove the camlocs from the cowl. Thanks to Buz we place the Camlocs in the block.



I've found, as you and many others have, that Camlocs fall out at the most inopportune times (i.e. in the grass, gravel, etc.) Also, it makes removing the upper cowl much easier, especially up by the last Camlocs next to the spinner.



Mark
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