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WillUribe(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:40 pm Post subject: I flew my FireStar into a dust devil and almost ended in a s

Click  here: Kolb FireStar flys into a dust devil 

  

 Greetings,

 This Sunday we all flew to a small airport and while filming some  ultralights on the way back I ran into a clear air dust devil.  I was  flying very slow and when the left wing dropped I moved the stick full  right but I had no response.  I dropped the camera pushed the nose  down and check to see if I hadn't lost one of my ailerons. Then I throttled up  and flew out of the dust devil.  When I checked my camera for damaged I  noticed it had been on throughout the maneuver. After I had everything squared  away I continued filming and my flight was uneventful after that.  Dave  was working on his Mosquito and getting it ready for it's first  flight. Two of the other planes in my flight went down with a collapsed nose  gear on the weedhopper and a hole in the XAir's engine, both planes should  be in the air by next Sunday.

  

 Regards,

Will Uribe

 FireStar II 360 hours



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rowedenny

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Location: Western PA

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:59 am Post subject: I flew my FireStar into a dust devil and almost ended in a s

Will,

 Glad to hear you are OK! You and Dave sure know how to find those dust  devils.

 What caused the hole in the 582?

 Denny Rowe, Mk-3, PA

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FS2Kolb(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:05 am Post subject: I flew my FireStar into a dust devil and almost ended in a s

In a message dated 7/15/2008 4:59:55 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  rowedenny(at)windstream.net writes:

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		  What    caused the hole in the 582? 	


 

 That is what happens when you go over the recommended  rpms.



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WillUribe(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:44 am Post subject: I flew my FireStar into a dust devil and almost ended in a s

Hi Denny,

 He need to change the pitch on the prop because it was producing over 7000  rpms.  He was planing to do it after the flight but was too late. 

 It's hard to miss dust devils when they are not making dust. This is the  first time I actually lost control, normally I avoid them if I can but when the  ground it wet there is no dust. The Challenger hit a dust devil and came  out flying the opposite direction.



Regards,

Will Uribe

 FireStar II 360 hours

  

 Will FireStar airplane web  page 

  

  

From:  owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Denny  Rowe

Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:56 AM

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Subject: Re: I flew my FireStar  into a dust devil and almost ended in a spin 

  

Will, 

Glad to hear you are  OK! You and Dave sure know how to find those dust devils. 

What caused the hole  in the 582? 

Denny Rowe, Mk-3,  PA



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JetPilot

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:04 am Post subject: Re: I flew my FireStar into a dust devil and almost ended in

Where did you hit the dust devil ??   How high were you ?  



Mike

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WillUribe(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject: I flew my FireStar into a dust devil and almost ended in a s

Hi  Mike, 

I was  flying over the desert by Horizon City and I was about 5,500 ft  high. 

  

Regards, 

Will  Uribe  

FireStar II  

El Paso,  TX 

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JetPilot

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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:37 am Post subject: Re: I flew my FireStar into a dust devil and almost ended in

I have never even seen a dust devil here in Miami, so I know very little about them.   Were you 5500 feet AGL ?   I had no idea that a dust devil would even go that high,  I can only imagine what flying through one would be like at low level.    Did the Challenger crash just because of the low altitude, or did it cause any kind of structural failure before the airplane hit ?



I see these big dust devils going across the desert on TV,  I have always wanted to fly one of my RC planes through one of those  



Looks like a lot of ultralight activity in ElPaso, much more than here in Miami.  Miami if flat, but not a great place to fly, we are very boxed in and have a very narrow area to fly up north..  We have ocean to the East, and South, and Unlandable Everglades to the west.   With airport traffic areas, this leaves us a north south corridor a few miles wide for about 100 miles where you have any kind of chance in landing engine out.  



Was the Dust devil violent enough you worried about structural failure in your plane ?   From your video , it looked pretty smooth up until the point you got in it, was it smooth ?



Mike



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Ralph B

Joined: 14 Apr 2007
Posts: 367
Location: Mound Minnesota

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:52 am Post subject: Re: I flew my FireStar into a dust devil and almost ended in

Several years ago, I passed over a dust devil that was on the ground over the airfield as I was landing. I dropped about 20 feet as I went over. Luckily, I had enough altitude. Since then, I avoid them.

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lucien

Joined: 03 Jun 2007
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: Re: I flew my FireStar into a dust devil and almost ended in

 	  Ralph B wrote: 	
		  Several years ago, I passed over a dust devil that was on the ground over the airfield as I was landing. I dropped about 20 feet as I went over. Luckily, I had enough altitude. Since then, I avoid them. 	




I've flown through a couple in a glider, pretty much a non-event (at least in the air) I suppose due to the long wing and thus exceptional stability.



In a powered plane its a different story. Flew through one with a friend of mine in a 172 last summer on takeoff. Tried to tump the plane over, was quite a wild ride.



Dust devils are a way of life here in the summer, even the biz jets go around when a dust devil forms off the approach end of a runway or pretty much when there's any chance of hitting one on landing.



I'm a morning/evening pilot in summer for that reason...... 



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WillUribe(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject: I flew my FireStar into a dust devil and almost ended in a s

Hi Mike,

 I was 5500 MSL or 1500 AGL and the challenger didn't crash it flew out of  the dust devil just like I did but he came out going the opposite  direction.

  

 Regards,

 Will Uribe

 FireStar II

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