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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:49 am    Post subject: Sleep well tonight, your government is awake. Reply with quote

I just heard on the news that the FAA has issued a new
rule "critical to making aviation safer". It seems that
a redesign of fuel tanks on air transport category a/c
are to be modified to prevent "catastrophic explosion
like that which brought down TWA800".

This is an excellent example of the lack of science and
understanding that drives the actions of folk-who-know-
more-about-airplanes-than-we-do.

This is in spite of the fact that a kerosene fueled explosion
of the type observed from TWA800 has never happened
before or since nor has it been duplicated in the lab
by anyone, anywhere. This is in spite of the fact that
experienced observers of many explosions of all kinds
(military and x-military) observed that first-light from
the TWA800 explosion was "white" . . . kerosene doesn't
burn white under any conditions.

This is one of those pesky details that is not unlike
the famous bullet ostensibly found on a cot in the emergency
room of a Dallas hospital. A bevy of learned observers
and finders of fact ultimately deduced that this bullet
made multiple holes in two individuals, even turned
a corner or two . . . and "fell out" of one of the bodies
not bearing a single mark or evidence of deformation.

When really stupid "mistakes" are observed, it gives rise
to two questions: If the writers really believe this, what
are their qualifications for making judgement on the matter
in the first place? If they don't believe it but are counting
on the majority of the populace to believe it . . . well,
the implications of that are far more disturbing.

Those are the same folks who sit in judgement on the things we
do on our airplanes and how we use them.

Bob . . .

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( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
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( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:14 am    Post subject: Sleep well tonight, your government is awake. Reply with quote

My question was: What makes an explosion in a wing center section tank any more deadly than an explosion in a outer wing tank? I guess the next step is the removal of ALL fuel tanks, because they just might explode.

Jay in Dallas





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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:14 am    Post subject: Sleep well tonight, your government is awake. Reply with quote

And you would think this was a perfect opportunity to blame it on "terrorists" and a good reason to invade another country...Hmm..Lets see which one this time?

I mean didn't we invade Iraq after a bunch of SAUDI ARABIAN terrorsts carried out 9-11?

Rule making at least doesn't cost us a billion dollars a day....Smile

Frank

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:59 am    Post subject: Sleep well tonight, your government is awake. Reply with quote

The 1,500 gallons of chemical weapons were found in a warehouse in Mosul.

I'm not exactly sure where they found the 550 metric tons of Uranium but I do now that it went to Montreal.

Jon
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:15 am    Post subject: Sleep well tonight, your government is awake. Reply with quote

There's also "plenty of video" showing that Kennedy, Kerry and Clinton thought the same thing about Iraq, and for the same good reasons.

Google "Iraq yellow cake uranium" and read the articles about the finds made this year - should keep you busy awhile rethinking this tripe. As for the rest of Saddam's WMD's (beyond the nerve agents already found in the first months of the war or already used on the Kurds) - he had plenty of time to export them to the Bakaa Valley in peace-loving Syria, where they likely remain hidden to this day, waiting for transfer to the jihadis.

Sleep well Wink

I'll admit this is getting way off topic and could be better taken somewhere else. The general discussion forum on AR15.com might be a good playground for you, if your skin is thick enough.

-Bill B

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Hmm, Frank, we invaded Afghanistan because of 9-11. We invaded Iraq
because they invaded Kuwait.



Plenty of video of Bush saying that we invaded Iraq because Iraq had Weapons of Mass Destruction that he was afraid were going to be used to help terrorists. Hmmm, where exactly did we find those WMDs again?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:40 pm    Post subject: Sleep well tonight, your government is awake. Reply with quote

At 03:37 PM 7/16/2008 -0400, you wrote:
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Er, correct, for the second time. I was talking about the first time we
invaded Iraq, back in 1990.

Simon

I'll encourage EVERYONE to make their feelings about such
matters known to their representatives. Check out

http://congress.org

You can easily write your favorite leadership with a
few minutes effort every day. While the details of your
letter will not reach that individual. The TOPICS and
FLAVORS are tracked by their office minions. You can
bet that 1500 notes with a common theme are noticed
and will at least get lip service if not action.

To be sure, the majority of those in power are finger-
in-the-wind politicians. If the wind doesn't blow, they
don't act.

Write to them if you will about anything else . . . but
write to them about the justification of ever heavier
regulatory burdens based on junk-science. Everybody writes
to complain about the crisis du jour, very few write
to point out fundamental errors in logic and assaults
upon liberty based on those errors. 1500 notes on THAT
would generate some wind. Recall that we're not SUPPOSED
to know about that stuff, it wasn't taught to us in the
approved curriculum.

But for us here on the List, let us keep our heads
down over the project but our heads up on the horizon
lest we discover that when the project is finished,
we're unable to use it for the stupidest of reasons
. . . mindless, burdensome and ineffectual rule making.
Throwing rocks at each other here is a gross mis-use of
precious $time$.
Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Sleep well tonight, your government is awake. Reply with quote

Correct. Uranium also known as "Yellow Cake" enriched to make nuclear bombs. I guess the mass graves discovered while looking for the WMD's wouldn't have been worth the effort however and were none of the USA's business anyway. We should have just left Hussein alone, and not listened to Bill, Hillary, Kerry, Gore and the rest. Oh yeah, and a good chunk of the billions we spend on the war is going into the pockets of our soldiers and employees of manufacturers of the supplies they need.

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