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mdkitfox(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: To Build or not to build...& Oshkosh

Andy, 

 

  Thank you for your response. Â I have taken so much prodding by everyone I know about the fact I am still building my Series V Speedster, and it's into it's 14th year. Â It's nice to know there is someone else out there who's got me beat, thank you, thank you! Â I have Serial Number 1 of the Model V and it looks like this is the year to complete it (maybeÂ ). Â Like you I have a wife is totally supportive and she says the same thing your wife does. Â "Why don't you go work on the plane and get it done." Â Fortunately, she's not only my wife, but my best friend. Â Couldn't have done this without her support. Â She gave up her dining room, family room, basement and garage to see this plane going through the build process. Â 

  

 

  I believe I've been on the Kitfox list for almost as long as it's been around. Â The list has had it's rough times, but overall it's been a good experience. Â Guy has done a super job stepping up and managing the action. Â I hope he stays the course.

  

 

  Is any one going to be at Oshkosh this year? Â Did I miss that thread? Â The mind is a terrible thing to waste!

  

 

  Rick Weiss

  Series V Speedster

  

 

  

 

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davestapa

Joined: 13 Mar 2007
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Location: Woodstock, GA

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:49 am Post subject: To Build or not to build...& Oshkosh

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:37:13 -0400 mdkitfox(at)aol.com (mdkitfox(at)aol.com) writes:



  

 ......I have taken so much prodding by everyone I know about the fact I  am still building my Series V Speedster, and it's into it's 14th year.   It's nice to know there is someone else out there who's got me beat, thank  you, thank you!  I have Serial Number 1 of the Model V and it looks like  this is the year to complete it (maybe )..........  

  

  

 Rick, I thought I might have the record for longest build time for a 5 (9  years-my original goal was 2 years-but life seems to get in the way sometimes.  But I may have longest Phase 1 test time-over a year now!!)

  

 David Estapa

 Woodstock, Georgia

 N97DE S5 TD 912 ULS

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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:00 pm Post subject: To Build or not to build...& Oshkosh

David, 

 

  You, my friend, are a speed builder relative to me. Â Good thing I bought the quick build:-) Â I'll do my best to let you have the record for the longest phase 1 test time, but you never know. Â Do you have specs for plane? Â Cruise speed, Empty weight, etc? Â Going out to the hangar now to press on before leaving for Oshkosh. Â By the way, where is Woodstock, GA? Â I'm near Daytona Beach? Â Are you going to Oshkosh?

  

 

  Rick Weiss

  Series V Speedster

 DO NOT ARCHIVE

 

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davestapa

Joined: 13 Mar 2007
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Location: Woodstock, GA

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject: To Build or not to build...& Oshkosh

Rick, the plane came in at 833 lbs. My problem with long test period was  high oil temps and a vibration at high RPM's, and the plane is 50 miles from  home. I did a bunch of short flights, maybe 15 at no more than 30 minutes trying  different mods to lower oil temps. I had pitched my prop for 5200 static. Some  one suggested it might be too flat, so I repitched it for lower rpm. Still need  to adjust, but I'm only getting 4800 at takeoff. However oil temps dropped  dramatically, speed increased, and rate of climb increased. I'm seeing  consistently 105 to 110  mph (no pants, but strut fairings), and 1100 fpm  climb at density altitudes of 2100 common in summer here. But you know I have  more fun cruising around the North Georgia mountains at 60. I plan on slowly  changing pitch to see what happens. (by the way it is a warp drive tapered tip,  I believe 72 in,) Ironically my DAR assigned me 25 hours. I questioned this, but  he said I had an approved prop and engine combination. Most people I have  discussed this with say I'm legal after 25 hours, but I'm not convinced. So I'm  taking it to 40 hours. I have about thirty and no that I have most issues solved  it should go real quick.

  

 Yes I'm going to OSH. Driving up Sunday and leaving Thursday. Woodstock is  35 miles NE of Atlanta.

  

 David

  

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   You, my friend, are a speed builder relative to me.  Good thing I    bought the quick build:-)  I'll do my best to let you have the record for    the longest phase 1 test time, but you never know.  Do you have specs for    plane?  Cruise speed, Empty weight, etc?  Going out to the hangar    now to press on before leaving for Oshkosh.  By the way, where is    Woodstock, GA?  I'm near Daytona Beach?  Are you going to    Oshkosh?

   



   Rick Weiss

   Series V Speedster

DO NOT ARCHIVE



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         On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:37:13 -0400 mdkitfox(at)aol.com (mdkitfox(at)aol.com) writes:



    

   ......I have taken so much prodding by everyone I know about the fact    I am still building my Series V Speedster, and it's into it's 14th year.     It's nice to know there is someone else out there who's got me beat,    thank you, thank you!  I have Serial Number 1 of the Model V and it looks    like this is the year to complete it (maybe )..........  

    

    </ div>    Rick, I thought I might have the record for longest build time for a 5 (9    years-my original goal was 2 years-but life seems to get in the way sometimes.    But I may have longest Phase 1 test time-over a year now!!)

    

   David Estapa

   Woodstock, Georgia

   N97DE S5 TD 912 ULS

    

    

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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject: To Build or not to build...& Oshkosh

David,Â  

 

  I have the same engine/prop combination so I'm finding this particularly interesting. Â I also have the bump cowl and the Earl's oil cooler which is upfront under the engine, partially hidden by the cowl. Â Is yours similar? Â  High oil temp seems to be a common issue on early flights. Â I test flew my friend's Model IV (40 hour test period) but we had EGT problems. Â Turns out the probes were too close to the exhaust valves, we moved them and the readings became normal - there never was a problem with the temps themselves. Â Â We expected oil temp problems, but it didn't seem to be an issue for us - we were lucky I guess. Â It sounds like your airplane is performing real good. Â  

 

  I'll be at Oshkosh the whole time. Â If you make it to Aeroshell square look for the Aeroshell coach (an ugly old RV) parked right next to the road parallel to the flight line, and ask around for me. Â I'l be there quite often, especially late in the afternoon each day. Â I'd like to say hey!

  

 

  Later,

  

 

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  Series V Speedster

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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:23 am Post subject: To Build or not to build...& Oshkosh

David, have you checked to see if your tach is  reading correctly?  There have been many cases on this list where people  were chasing problems only to find out that the tach was the problem.   

 Deke Morisse

Mikado Michigan

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davestapa

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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:54 am Post subject: To Build or not to build...& Oshkosh

Rick, I have the smooth cowl with the Earl's cooler. 

  

 I'll look you up at OSH.

  

 David

  

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 [quote]   David,  

   



   I have the same engine/prop combination so I'm finding this particularly    interesting.  I also have the bump cowl and the Earl's oil cooler which    is upfront under the engine, partially hidden by the cowl.  Is yours    similar?   High oil temp seems to be a common issue on early flights.     I test flew my friend's Model IV (40 hour test period) but we had EGT    problems.  Turns out the probes were too close to the exhaust valves, we    moved them and the readings became normal - there never was a problem with the    temps themselves.   We expected oil temp problems, but it didn't    seem to be an issue for us - we were lucky I guess.  It sounds like your    airplane is performing real good.      



   I'll be at Oshkosh the whole time.  If you make it to Aeroshell    square look for the Aeroshell coach (an ugly old RV) parked right next to the    road parallel to the flight line, and ask around for me.  I'l be there    quite often, especially late in the afternoon each day.  I'd like to say    hey!

   



   Later,

   



   RIck Weiss

   Series V Speedster

   DO NOT ARCHIVE

   



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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:54 am Post subject: To Build or not to build...& Oshkosh

Yeah, Deke, I have the Rotax tack and calibrated it when first started. I  also installed a Tiny Tack temporarily to be sure. But left it in anyway.

  

 David

  

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 [quote]   David, have you checked to see if your tach is    reading correctly?  There have been many cases on this list where people    were chasing problems only to find out that the tach was the problem.     

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