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robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:53 pm Post subject: Flying RV-10 Weight

-10 List,

	Is there a record of flying RV-10's weights anyplace on the web? Should I be 30# over Max Gross weight before fluids or paint? Ok, ok, it's not that bad....



Robin

Well... it's getting weighed...

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rene(at)felker.com
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject: Flying RV-10 Weight

I do not know of a complete listing, but mine was 1641 at certification time.  I think I may have added a few pounds since then.  Waiting for our local EEA Chapters scales to return before a do the final fighting weight.



Rene' Felker

RV-10 N423CF Flying

801-721-6080



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msausen

Joined: 25 Oct 2007
Posts: 559
Location: Appleton, WI USA

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: Flying RV-10 Weight

Checkoway has a W&B database on his site.  Looks like he has 11 RV-10's in it at the moment.  I recommend that anyone the is flying and hasn't entered their weight into this to do so.  It's a great resource and the more data the better.



http://www.rvproject.com/wab/



Michael



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robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:58 pm Post subject: Flying RV-10 Weight

Michael, that is what I was looking for.



Thanks,

Robin

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2879

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject: Flying RV-10 Weight

One thing about the numbers there....there are some that look kind of

funky.  Here's a tip for some of you, as I have first-hand knowledge

that not everyone understands this point....



When you weigh the plane, MAKE SURE you level the plane first.

Side to side, across the door openings, and fore/aft along the

longerons just under the doors.  IF YOU SIMPLY PUT IT ON JACKS

AND WEIGH IT, you will drastically affect your weight and show

a very aft CG with much less nose weight.  When weighing the

RV-10, you will find that you will likely need to put the rear

scales up on blocks about 2" high for them to bring the plane

to a water-level level position for weighing.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:

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 <rvbuilder(at)sausen.net>

 

 Checkoway has a W&B database on his site.  Looks like he has 11

 RV-10's in it at the moment.  I recommend that anyone the is flying

 and hasn't entered their weight into this to do so.  It's a great

 resource and the more data the better.

 

 http://www.rvproject.com/wab/

 

 Michael

 

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Dave(at)AirCraftersLLC.co
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: Flying RV-10 Weight

Tim's right.  With a digital level you can easily get within .2 degrees.

Anything more than that will make the CG range too inaccurate to use.



Even with the mains on blocks, you will probably have to let some air out of

the nosewheel.  No, you don't have to account for the air...



Dave Saylor

AirCrafters LLC

140 Aviation Way

Watsonville, CA 

831-722-9141

831-750-0284 CL

www.AirCraftersLLC.com

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jcumins(at)jcis.net
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: Flying RV-10 Weight

Tom



I would think it would be better to weight the plane on its wheels not on

jacks.  But you are so right you must be perfectly level in both directions

to get an accurate weight,  



I have weighed numerous planes from the c-5 to Cessna 140 the principles are

the same.



I came up to the same conclusion that a lot of the data in the list was not

as accurate as it should be.  



When I do my 10 I will even calc the % of MAC (mean aero dynamic cord).  



John G. Cumins

President

 

JC'S Interactive Systems

2499 B1 Martin Rd

Fairfield Ca 94533

707-425-7100

707-425-7576 Fax

 

Your Total Technology Solution Provider

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AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:11 am Post subject: Flying RV-10 Weight

27 are in my database.  That leaves well over 120 not reporting in on finished weight.



John Cox



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ncol(at)xtra.co.nz
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:55 am Post subject: Flying RV-10 Weight

Hi John



Anotherone for the database thnen.



Ours came in at 1699lbs. On the heavy side, but it did include  

everything apart from fuel.



We also had a heavy paint job, with primer, base, airbrush & 2 coats  

clear. It also included oil,  & spare 1 quart, 1st aid kit, tie downs,  

AIP's. The only thing we forgot to include was the canopy cover which  

we didn't have at the time.

We have a fairly full panel with HF radio, & lightning. Also Tip  

tanks. So not too bad considering. But no air con.



Neil & Sarah

ZK-RVT



On 21/07/2008, at 2:06 AM, John Cox wrote:.



[quote] 



 27 are in my database.  That leaves well over 120 not reporting in  

 on finished weight.



 John Cox



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AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:26 pm Post subject: Flying RV-10 Weight

1699 in my database.  The paint job is worth every pound.  the canopy

cover is removable so it's part of the useful load component.



JC



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vhmum(at)bigpond.com
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:26 pm Post subject: Flying RV-10 Weight

VH-ICY 1624 pounds

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AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: Flying RV-10 Weight

My database showed an earlier post at 1621.  I will change it.



John Cox



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rene(at)felker.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject: Flying RV-10 Weight

Well, today was my final weight day.  I have almost everything installed.

All I have left is a little bit of headliner and a little paint in the

interior.  Weight today, 1698, at 109.22.



Rene'

801-721-6080

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vhmum(at)bigpond.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:11 pm Post subject: Flying RV-10 Weight

Yes as I have added the tow bar to a fixed point in the baggage area



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robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:58 pm Post subject: Flying RV-10 Weight

Regarding weight mine is going to come in as "portly" due to a lot of extras. We are at ~1625 before paint and partial interior. In our defense we have the OH console, O2, Leather, dual 12V to 24V Comm voltage converters (heavy), balanced wheel pants, double DVD players and the list keeps growing.

My question has to do with weight left to right. I placed the O2 system right of centerline and the wing servos in the right wing expecting my generous proportions would be PIC. But the empty weight was 20# greater on the left wheel than the right. Any thoughts?



Robin

Travel Plans:

San Luis Obispo, LA, Chicago, Arkansas, Chicago, OSH, Kohler, Chicago, LA, San Luis Obispo, LA.

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2879

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:29 am Post subject: Flying RV-10 Weight

Even a minor bit of having it not leveled perfectly side to side

will throw off the W&B numbers, so it could be something as simple

as .1 degree of mis-level.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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Robin Marks wrote:

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 Regarding weight mine is going to come in as "portly" due to a lot of extras. We are at ~1625 before paint and partial interior. In our defense we have the OH console, O2, Leather, dual 12V to 24V Comm voltage converters (heavy), balanced wheel pants, double DVD players and the list keeps growing.

 My question has to do with weight left to right. I placed the O2 system right of centerline and the wing servos in the right wing expecting my generous proportions would be PIC. But the empty weight was 20# greater on the left wheel than the right. Any thoughts?

 

 Robin

 Travel Plans:

 San Luis Obispo, LA, Chicago, Arkansas, Chicago, OSH, Kohler, Chicago, LA, San Luis Obispo, LA.

n801bh(at)netzero.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:28 am Post subject: Flying RV-10 Weight

I am not sure of the mount design but,, in planes with canted engines, ie, the prop is pointed to the right slightly to offset the p factor. This puts the front of the crank centerline right on airframe centerline so the left rear, or the pilots side of the engine is favoring the left side. That will add 18-23 lbs to the left side weight no matter how close you balanced all of your add ons... YMMV 

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Ben Haas

N801BH

www.haaspowerair.com



-- "Robin Marks" <robin1(at)mrmoisture.com> wrote:

--> RV10-List message posted by: "Robin Marks" <robin1(at)mrmoisture.com>



Regarding weight mine is going to come in as "portly" due to a lot of extras. We are at ~1625 before paint and partial interior. In our defense we have the OH console, O2, Leather, dual 12V to 24V Comm voltage converters (heavy), balanced wheel pants, double DVD players and the list keeps growing.

My question has to do with weight left to right. I placed the O2 system right of centerline and the wing servos in the right wing expecting my generous proportions would be PIC. But the empty weight was 20# greater on the left wheel than the right. Any thoughts?



Robin

Travel Plans:

San Luis Obispo, LA, Chicago, Arkansas, Chicago, OSH, Kohler, Chicago, LA, San Luis Obispo, LA.  

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