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ElleryWeld(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject: side slip in a KOLB

I have side slipped three different models of  KOLBS  and they all slip great  if anyone tells you different they  don't know how to side slip properly I just showed Vic from Maine how they slip  today  ask him and he  has flaperons  not Flaps  they all  come down like an elevator with a slip 

  

 Ellery in Maine 

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  In a message dated 7/26/2008 5:27:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com writes:

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Gary mentioned a sudden pitch up when    slipping hard; >>



Hi,

in the UK the tendency for the nose to    lift when sideslipping is 

incorporated in the test write up for the Extra.    Probably different for the 

single seaters.. It is attributed to , not the    weight being aft but the 

airflow sideways across the nose cone producing    lift.

The information in the test results merely said `Not dangerous if the    pilot 

is aware of the effect.



Is there any point in sideslipping a    Kolb?. There is so little side area and 

the flaps can produce a pretty    good descent angle antway. Anyone done any 

comparative tests?



Off    line for the next week as I am off to Summer School at a local    

university.



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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:33 am Post subject: side slip in a KOLB

KOLBS  and they all slip  great>>

  

 Thanks for that, Ellery, I will give it a  go.

  

 Pat 



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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:33 am Post subject: Re: side slip in a KOLB

Mine slips one way better than the other....

 I think it's Right Rudder.....

 That would make sense...I counter with Left Rudder on take off....



 With no doors , I can feel the difference in the wind rushing thru the 

cabin....



 Yeah,  Watching the VSI ,  She drops like a rock.....



                       Gotta Fly...

                                       Mike & "Jaz" in MN

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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:09 pm Post subject: side slip in a KOLB

At 12:50 AM 7/27/2008, ElleryWeld(at)aol.com wrote:

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		  I have side slipped three different models of KOLBS  and they all slip great  if anyone tells you different they don't know how to side slip properly I just showed Vic from Maine how they slip today  ask him and he  has flaperons  not Flaps  they all come down like an elevator with a slip 	


 I think I've learned to do slips "properly" over the years and I can assure that even a full rudder slip has almost no effect on the descent angle in my Ultraster.



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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: side slip in a KOLB

I have not flown a Ultrastar  but try more  aileron input with opposite rudder more down elevator and you should get more  effect with your slip 

 Ellery in Maine 

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  In a message dated 7/28/2008 9:09:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  d-m-hague(at)comcast.net writes:

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		  I have      side slipped three different models of KOLBS  and they all slip      great  if anyone tells you different they don't know how to side slip      properly I just showed Vic from Maine how they slip today  ask him and      he  has flaperons  not Flaps  they all come down like an      elevator with a slip 	


I think I've learned to do    slips "properly" over the years and I can assure that even a full rudder slip    has almost no effect on the descent angle in my Ultraster.



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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:09 pm Post subject: side slip in a KOLB

At 10:36 PM 7/28/2008, ElleryWeld(at)aol.com wrote:

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		  I have not flown a Ultrastar  but try more aileron input with opposite rudder more down elevator and you should get more effect with your slip 	


 When you're at full rudder in a stable slip any more aileron simply rolls the plane, and elevator makes it dive.  Without side area you simply pick up speed instead of drag making you sink at a greater angle.  Remember, the US has no fuselage, no pod at all.



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