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sportav8r(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:25 am Post subject: Icom A200

Fellow aviators:



A few weeks back I loaded a heavy, folding shade tent into the pax seat of my RV-6A to take to a neighbor's fly-in event, in the process bumping the tuning knob of my Icom A200 radio and bending its shaft.  The radio has since stopped responding to turning the outer ring (MHz) selector, and needs repair.

 

I'm not afraid to try this repair myself if I can get my hands on a replacement concentric optical shaft encoder that is a proper fit, nor opposed to sending the radio off for repair by an avionics shop is I can find a reasonable quote.  Menawhile, looking for a loaner radio while I get the repairs done, or a good deal on a replacement A200 if I decide to swap first / repair later.

 

Any help out there?



Thanks,



Bill B/ Stormy  

RV-6A



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bill(at)repucci.com
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:09 pm Post subject: Icom A200

I’m not really sure why you need a radio.  Just stay out of controlled airspace and keep your eyes open.  

   

Bill  

     

From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd

 Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 2:21 PM

 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com; rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com; aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Icom A200  

  

     

Fellow aviators:

 

 A few weeks back I loaded a heavy, folding shade tent into the pax seat of my RV-6A to take to a neighbor's fly-in event, in the process bumping the tuning knob of my Icom A200 radio and bending its shaft.  The radio has since stopped responding to turning the outer ring (MHz) selector, and needs repair.

 

 I'm not afraid to try this repair myself if I can get my hands on a replacement concentric optical shaft encoder that is a proper fit, nor opposed to sending the radio off for repair by an avionics shop is I can find a reasonable quote.  Menawhile, looking for a loaner radio while I get the repairs done, or a good deal on a replacement A200 if I decide to swap first / repair later.

 

 Any help out there?

 

 Thanks,

 

 Bill B/ Stormy  

 RV-6A  

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robertrv607(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:47 pm Post subject: Icom A200

Bill:



I know you are a hot pilot, but in all my years of lying, you are the

first, to tell some one, you do not need a radio...unbelievable'''

I do not puch holes in the sky, around the air port.... I like,

P. Rosales, travell....

thanks

bert

--- On Mon, 7/28/08, Bill Repucci <bill(at)repucci.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   From: Bill Repucci <bill(at)repucci.com>

 Subject: RE: Icom A200

 To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com

 Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 5:07 PM

 I'm not really sure why you need a radio.  Just stay out

 of controlled

 airspace and keep your eyes open.

 

  

 

 Bill

 

  

 

 From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com

 [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On

 Behalf Of Bill Boyd

 Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 2:21 PM

 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com; rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com;

 aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Icom A200

 

  

 

 Fellow aviators:

 

 A few weeks back I loaded a heavy, folding shade tent into

 the pax seat of

 my RV-6A to take to a neighbor's fly-in event, in the

 process bumping the

 tuning knob of my Icom A200 radio and bending its shaft. 

 The radio has

 since stopped responding to turning the outer ring (MHz)

 selector, and needs

 repair.

 

 I'm not afraid to try this repair myself if I can get

 my hands on a

 replacement concentric optical shaft encoder that is a

 proper fit, nor

 opposed to sending the radio off for repair by an avionics

 shop is I can

 find a reasonable quote.  Menawhile, looking for a loaner

 radio while I get

 the repairs done, or a good deal on a replacement A200 if I

 decide to swap

 first / repair later.

 

 Any help out there?

 

 Thanks,

 

 Bill B/ Stormy  

 RV-6A

sportav8r(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:34 pm Post subject: Icom A200

Believe it or not, on a lark, I took the darn thing out of the panel and laid it open: broken outer shaft on the concentric encoder switch was the problem.  Easily unsoldered, removed, opened the switch body.  Lots of teenie weenie innards.  Jeweler's loupes were brought out.  Shaft is brass - was able to silver solder the thing back together and re-assemble the switch (if you saw it you would not beleive it was possible to do in a home workshop). Put the radio back in the panel and it worked!   (Past tense).  Naturally, the solder joint failed after the first few minutes of playing with it, so now it's back to broken status.  I'd rather discover this on the ground than on a X/C.  I kinda thought it would happen - solder is not a structural material, really.  Too bad Icom won't sell me the $25 part (Alps 3-gang rotary encoder) and I cannot find it on the 'net.  The avionics monopoly wins this round.

 

Well, I now have two hours of my time in this thing, about enough to buy a new one, so I'm done messing around, but it was a fun exercise.  I might open a watch repair business on the side, as I discovered talents and patience I didn't know I had.

 

-Bill



On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Bill Repucci <bill(at)repucci.com (bill(at)repucci.com)> wrote:

[quote]              

I'm not really sure why you need a radio.  Just stay out of controlled airspace and keep your eyes open.  

   

Bill  

     

From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd

 Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 2:21 PM

 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com); rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com (rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com); aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)

 Subject: Icom A200  

  

     

Fellow aviators:

 

 A few weeks back I loaded a heavy, folding shade tent into the pax seat of my RV-6A to take to a neighbor's fly-in event, in the process bumping the tuning knob of my Icom A200 radio and bending its shaft.  The radio has since stopped responding to turning the outer ring (MHz) selector, and needs repair.

 

 I'm not afraid to try this repair myself if I can get my hands on a replacement concentric optical shaft encoder that is a proper fit, nor opposed to sending the radio off for repair by an avionics shop is I can find a reasonable quote.  Menawhile, looking for a loaner radio while I get the repairs done, or a good deal on a replacement A200 if I decide to swap first / repair later.

 

 Any help out there?

 

 Thanks,

 

 Bill B/ Stormy  

 RV-6A  

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Ed Anderson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 475

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:42 am Post subject: Icom A200

Bill,  

   

I do a lot of search and buying of electronic components – do you have a part number as I do find Alps encoders on the net just not certain which specific one you require??  

   

Ed  

     

Ed Anderson  

Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered  

Matthews, NC  

eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com  

http://www.andersonee.com  

http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW  

http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html  

        

  

From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd

 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 8:32 PM

 To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Icom A200  

  

     

Believe it or not, on a lark, I took the darn thing out of the panel and laid it open: broken outer shaft on the concentric encoder switch was the problem.  Easily unsoldered, removed, opened the switch body.  Lots of teenie weenie innards.  Jeweler's loupes were brought out.  Shaft is brass - was able to silver solder the thing back together and re-assemble the switch (if you saw it you would not beleive it was possible to do in a home workshop). Put the radio back in the panel and it worked!   (Past tense).  Naturally, the solder joint failed after the first few minutes of playing with it, so now it's back to broken status.  I'd rather discover this on the ground than on a X/C.  I kinda thought it would happen - solder is not a structural material, really.  Too bad Icom won't sell me the $25 part (Alps 3-gang rotary encoder) and I cannot find it on the 'net.  The avionics monopoly wins this round.

 

 Well, I now have two hours of my time in this thing, about enough to buy a new one, so I'm done messing around, but it was a fun exercise.  I might open a watch repair business on the side, as I discovered talents and patience I didn't know I had.

 

 -Bill    

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Bill Repucci <bill(at)repucci.com (bill(at)repucci.com)> wrote:      

I'm not really sure why you need a radio.  Just stay out of controlled airspace and keep your eyes open.  

   

Bill  

     

From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd

 Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 2:21 PM

 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com); rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com (rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com); aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)

 Subject: Icom A200  

  

     

Fellow aviators:

 

 A few weeks back I loaded a heavy, folding shade tent into the pax seat of my RV-6A to take to a neighbor's fly-in event, in the process bumping the tuning knob of my Icom A200 radio and bending its shaft.  The radio has since stopped responding to turning the outer ring (MHz) selector, and needs repair.

 

 I'm not afraid to try this repair myself if I can get my hands on a replacement concentric optical shaft encoder that is a proper fit, nor opposed to sending the radio off for repair by an avionics shop is I can find a reasonable quote.  Menawhile, looking for a loaner radio while I get the repairs done, or a good deal on a replacement A200 if I decide to swap first / repair later.

 

 Any help out there?

 

 Thanks,

 

 Bill B/ Stormy  

 RV-6A  

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Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com

Ed Anderson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 475

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:17 am Post subject: Icom A200

Bill, While I could not find an ALPs 3 model, I notice several hollow shaft encoders of ALPs that are designed to be ganged (several layers) on a shaft.  Something like this one:  

   

http://www3.alps.com/WebObjects/catalog.woa/E/PDF/Switch/Encoder/SRGPSJ/SRGPSJ.PDF  

   

Ed  

     

Ed Anderson  

Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered  

Matthews, NC  

eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com  

http://www.andersonee.com  

http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW  

http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html  

        

  

From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd

 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 8:32 PM

 To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Icom A200  

  

     

Believe it or not, on a lark, I took the darn thing out of the panel and laid it open: broken outer shaft on the concentric encoder switch was the problem.  Easily unsoldered, removed, opened the switch body.  Lots of teenie weenie innards.  Jeweler's loupes were brought out.  Shaft is brass - was able to silver solder the thing back together and re-assemble the switch (if you saw it you would not beleive it was possible to do in a home workshop). Put the radio back in the panel and it worked!   (Past tense).  Naturally, the solder joint failed after the first few minutes of playing with it, so now it's back to broken status.  I'd rather discover this on the ground than on a X/C.  I kinda thought it would happen - solder is not a structural material, really.  Too bad Icom won't sell me the $25 part (Alps 3-gang rotary encoder) and I cannot find it on the 'net.  The avionics monopoly wins this round.

 

 Well, I now have two hours of my time in this thing, about enough to buy a new one, so I'm done messing around, but it was a fun exercise.  I might open a watch repair business on the side, as I discovered talents and patience I didn't know I had.

 

 -Bill    

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Bill Repucci <bill(at)repucci.com (bill(at)repucci.com)> wrote:      

I'm not really sure why you need a radio.  Just stay out of controlled airspace and keep your eyes open.  

   

Bill  

     

From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd

 Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 2:21 PM

 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com); rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com (rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com); aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)

 Subject: Icom A200  

  

     

Fellow aviators:

 

 A few weeks back I loaded a heavy, folding shade tent into the pax seat of my RV-6A to take to a neighbor's fly-in event, in the process bumping the tuning knob of my Icom A200 radio and bending its shaft.  The radio has since stopped responding to turning the outer ring (MHz) selector, and needs repair.

 

 I'm not afraid to try this repair myself if I can get my hands on a replacement concentric optical shaft encoder that is a proper fit, nor opposed to sending the radio off for repair by an avionics shop is I can find a reasonable quote.  Menawhile, looking for a loaner radio while I get the repairs done, or a good deal on a replacement A200 if I decide to swap first / repair later.

 

 Any help out there?

 

 Thanks,

 

 Bill B/ Stormy  

 RV-6A  

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Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com

Ed Anderson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 475

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:26 am Post subject: Icom A200

This seems to be the primary catalog for ALPS encoders -  might be something of interest – but, if your data does not have any specs or details on times – might be hard to match.  

   

http://www3.alps.com/WebObjects/catalog.woa/E/PDF/Switch/Encoder/ENCODER_INDEX.PDF  

   

Ed  

     

Ed Anderson  

Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered  

Matthews, NC  

eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com  

http://www.andersonee.com  

http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW  

http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html  

        

  

From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson

 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:15 AM

 To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Icom A200  

  

   

Bill, While I could not find an ALPs 3 model, I notice several hollow shaft encoders of ALPs that are designed to be ganged (several layers) on a shaft.  Something like this one:  

   

http://www3.alps.com/WebObjects/catalog.woa/E/PDF/Switch/Encoder/SRGPSJ/SRGPSJ.PDF  

   

Ed  

     

Ed Anderson  

Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered  

Matthews, NC  

eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com  

http://www.andersonee.com  

http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW  

http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html  

        

  

From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd

 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 8:32 PM

 To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Icom A200  

  

     

Believe it or not, on a lark, I took the darn thing out of the panel and laid it open: broken outer shaft on the concentric encoder switch was the problem.  Easily unsoldered, removed, opened the switch body.  Lots of teenie weenie innards.  Jeweler's loupes were brought out.  Shaft is brass - was able to silver solder the thing back together and re-assemble the switch (if you saw it you would not beleive it was possible to do in a home workshop). Put the radio back in the panel and it worked!   (Past tense).  Naturally, the solder joint failed after the first few minutes of playing with it, so now it's back to broken status.  I'd rather discover this on the ground than on a X/C.  I kinda thought it would happen - solder is not a structural material, really.  Too bad Icom won't sell me the $25 part (Alps 3-gang rotary encoder) and I cannot find it on the 'net.  The avionics monopoly wins this round.

 

 Well, I now have two hours of my time in this thing, about enough to buy a new one, so I'm done messing around, but it was a fun exercise.  I might open a watch repair business on the side, as I discovered talents and patience I didn't know I had.

 

 -Bill    

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Bill Repucci <bill(at)repucci.com (bill(at)repucci.com)> wrote:      

I'm not really sure why you need a radio.  Just stay out of controlled airspace and keep your eyes open.  

   

Bill  

     

From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd

 Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 2:21 PM

 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com); rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com (rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com); aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)

 Subject: Icom A200  

  

     

Fellow aviators:

 

 A few weeks back I loaded a heavy, folding shade tent into the pax seat of my RV-6A to take to a neighbor's fly-in event, in the process bumping the tuning knob of my Icom A200 radio and bending its shaft.  The radio has since stopped responding to turning the outer ring (MHz) selector, and needs repair.

 

 I'm not afraid to try this repair myself if I can get my hands on a replacement concentric optical shaft encoder that is a proper fit, nor opposed to sending the radio off for repair by an avionics shop is I can find a reasonable quote.  Menawhile, looking for a loaner radio while I get the repairs done, or a good deal on a replacement A200 if I decide to swap first / repair later.

 

 Any help out there?

 

 Thanks,

 

 Bill B/ Stormy  

 RV-6A  

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Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com

sportav8r(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:44 am Post subject: Icom A200

Ed, none of those pictures matched.  the only number stamped on one of the ganged modules was "7LV"  If I could only trick Icom into selling me one, i could install it in under 15 minutes.



-Bill

 

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Ed Anderson <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com (eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com)> wrote:

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This seems to be the primary catalog for ALPS encoders -  might be something of interest – but, if your data does not have any specs or details on times – might be hard to match.  

   

http://www3.alps.com/WebObjects/catalog.woa/E/PDF/Switch/Encoder/ENCODER_INDEX.PDF   

   

Ed  

     

Ed Anderson  

Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered  

Matthews, NC  

eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com (eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com)   

http://www.andersonee.com   

http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW   

http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html   

  

      

  

From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson

 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:15 AM

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Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Icom A200  



  

   

Bill, While I could not find an ALPs 3 model, I notice several hollow shaft encoders of ALPs that are designed to be ganged (several layers) on a shaft.  Something like this one:  

   

http://www3.alps.com/WebObjects/catalog.woa/E/PDF/Switch/Encoder/SRGPSJ/SRGPSJ.PDF   

   

Ed  

     

Ed Anderson  

Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered  

Matthews, NC  

eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com (eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com)   

http://www.andersonee.com   

http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW   

http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html   

        

  

From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd

 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 8:32 PM

 To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com (rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com)

 Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Icom A200  

  

     

Believe it or not, on a lark, I took the darn thing out of the panel and laid it open: broken outer shaft on the concentric encoder switch was the problem.  Easily unsoldered, removed, opened the switch body.  Lots of teenie weenie innards.  Jeweler's loupes were brought out.  Shaft is brass - was able to silver solder the thing back together and re-assemble the switch (if you saw it you would not beleive it was possible to do in a home workshop). Put the radio back in the panel and it worked!   (Past tense).  Naturally, the solder joint failed after the first few minutes of playing with it, so now it's back to broken status.  I'd rather discover this on the ground than on a X/C.  I kinda thought it would happen - solder is not a structural material, really.  Too bad Icom won't sell me the $25 part (Alps 3-gang rotary encoder) and I cannot find it on the 'net.  The avionics monopoly wins this round.

 

 Well, I now have two hours of my time in this thing, about enough to buy a new one, so I'm done messing around, but it was a fun exercise.  I might open a watch repair business on the side, as I discovered talents and patience I didn't know I had.

 

 -Bill    

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Bill Repucci <bill(at)repucci.com (bill(at)repucci.com)> wrote:       

I'm not really sure why you need a radio.  Just stay out of controlled airspace and keep your eyes open.  

   

Bill  

     

From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd

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 Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Icom A200  

  

     

Fellow aviators:

 

 A few weeks back I loaded a heavy, folding shade tent into the pax seat of my RV-6A to take to a neighbor's fly-in event, in the process bumping the tuning knob of my Icom A200 radio and bending its shaft.  The radio has since stopped responding to turning the outer ring (MHz) selector, and needs repair.

 

 I'm not afraid to try this repair myself if I can get my hands on a replacement concentric optical shaft encoder that is a proper fit, nor opposed to sending the radio off for repair by an avionics shop is I can find a reasonable quote.  Menawhile, looking for a loaner radio while I get the repairs done, or a good deal on a replacement A200 if I decide to swap first / repair later.

 

 Any help out there?

 

 Thanks,

 

 Bill B/ Stormy  

 RV-6A  

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Ed Anderson

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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:26 pm Post subject: Icom A200

I can certainly understand your frustration, you know the problem, you can affect the solution – except!   Here is one more set that appears to have some different encoders from ALPS.  Take a look at the stackable Grey encoder.  

   

http://www.dst-gmbh.de/encoder.htm  

   

Don’t guess you have a photo of your busted one?  

     

Ed Anderson  

Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered  

Matthews, NC  

eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com  

http://www.andersonee.com  

http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW  

http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html  

        

  

From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd

 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:43 AM

 To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Icom A200  

  

     

Ed, none of those pictures matched.  the only number stamped on one of the ganged modules was "7LV"  If I could only trick Icom into selling me one, i could install it in under 15 minutes.

 

 -Bill    

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Ed Anderson <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com (eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com)> wrote:      

This seems to be the primary catalog for ALPS encoders -  might be something of interest – but, if your data does not have any specs or details on times – might be hard to match.  

   

http://www3.alps.com/WebObjects/catalog.woa/E/PDF/Switch/Encoder/ENCODER_INDEX.PDF    

   

Ed  

     

Ed Anderson  

Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered  

Matthews, NC  

eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com (eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com)  

http://www.andersonee.com  

http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW  

http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html  

  

        

  

From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson

 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:15 AM    



 To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com (rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com)  

  

Subject: RE: Icom A200  

      

   

Bill, While I could not find an ALPs 3 model, I notice several hollow shaft encoders of ALPs that are designed to be ganged (several layers) on a shaft.  Something like this one:  

   

http://www3.alps.com/WebObjects/catalog.woa/E/PDF/Switch/Encoder/SRGPSJ/SRGPSJ.PDF  

   

Ed  

     

Ed Anderson  

Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered  

Matthews, NC  

eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com (eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com)  

http://www.andersonee.com  

http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW  

http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html  

        

  

From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd

 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 8:32 PM

 To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com (rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com)

 Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Icom A200  

  

     

Believe it or not, on a lark, I took the darn thing out of the panel and laid it open: broken outer shaft on the concentric encoder switch was the problem.  Easily unsoldered, removed, opened the switch body.  Lots of teenie weenie innards.  Jeweler's loupes were brought out.  Shaft is brass - was able to silver solder the thing back together and re-assemble the switch (if you saw it you would not beleive it was possible to do in a home workshop). Put the radio back in the panel and it worked!   (Past tense).  Naturally, the solder joint failed after the first few minutes of playing with it, so now it's back to broken status.  I'd rather discover this on the ground than on a X/C.  I kinda thought it would happen - solder is not a structural material, really.  Too bad Icom won't sell me the $25 part (Alps 3-gang rotary encoder) and I cannot find it on the 'net.  The avionics monopoly wins this round.

 

 Well, I now have two hours of my time in this thing, about enough to buy a new one, so I'm done messing around, but it was a fun exercise.  I might open a watch repair business on the side, as I discovered talents and patience I didn't know I had.

 

 -Bill    

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Bill Repucci <bill(at)repucci.com (bill(at)repucci.com)> wrote:      

I'm not really sure why you need a radio.  Just stay out of controlled airspace and keep your eyes open.  

   

Bill  

     

From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd

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 Subject: Icom A200  

  

     

Fellow aviators:

 

 A few weeks back I loaded a heavy, folding shade tent into the pax seat of my RV-6A to take to a neighbor's fly-in event, in the process bumping the tuning knob of my Icom A200 radio and bending its shaft.  The radio has since stopped responding to turning the outer ring (MHz) selector, and needs repair.

 

 I'm not afraid to try this repair myself if I can get my hands on a replacement concentric optical shaft encoder that is a proper fit, nor opposed to sending the radio off for repair by an avionics shop is I can find a reasonable quote.  Menawhile, looking for a loaner radio while I get the repairs done, or a good deal on a replacement A200 if I decide to swap first / repair later.

 

 Any help out there?

 

 Thanks,

 

 Bill B/ Stormy  

 RV-6A  

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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject: Icom A200

Ed,



I'd say it's definitely one of the RK097 series, 9mm horizontal, but with three gangs and two concentric shafts, the center one having a pull-on switch function (to select .0125 MHz tuning steps).  I don't see one like that in the listings.

 

-Bill



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