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rv9jim(at)juno.com
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 Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:55 am Post subject: Fraudulent Purchase attempt (Off Topic) |
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Eric,
I have a small business and was also a "victim" of this style
fraud. They wanted about $500 worth of "bearings" that I sell. They
used a third party phone conversation. They provided a "good" charge
card and promised the same deal. But then, said they could not come by
and pick the order up. Would I send it FED X to the address given. When
I called Fed X, they said it was going to Nigeria with out me even
giving them the complete address. They turned me over to their fraud
division of Fed X and they confirmed it was a scam. They said I should
call the FBI here in Tampa and report it. The FBI said that they get
about 10 to 20 a day reported to them. I thank Fed X for the heads up.
BTW, the credit card will go through as a good transaction but the
charge will be declined later as the card will be found to be stolen.
Your are then out of the merchandise and freight charges.
Been there, done that Glad you were not "had" by the scum of
the world. Also, most of these scams originate in Nigeria.
Jim Nelson
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rd2(at)evenlink.com
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:16 am Post subject: Fraudulent Purchase attempt (Off Topic) |
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This is strange (one aspect of it) - you mean that the credit card
processor will revert a legitimate charge, even if the merchant complied,
shipped the order, but the card was later found to be stolen? I thought
these risks are born by the credit card company releasing both the holder
and the merchant from liability (some cards may have $50 card holder
liability).
Rumen
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Eric,
I have a small business and was also a "victim" of this style
fraud. They wanted about $500 worth of "bearings" that I sell. They
used a third party phone conversation. They provided a "good" charge
card and promised the same deal. But then, said they could not come by
and pick the order up. Would I send it FED X to the address given. When
I called Fed X, they said it was going to Nigeria with out me even
giving them the complete address. They turned me over to their fraud
division of Fed X and they confirmed it was a scam. They said I should
call the FBI here in Tampa and report it. The FBI said that they get
about 10 to 20 a day reported to them. I thank Fed X for the heads up.
BTW, the credit card will go through as a good transaction but the
charge will be declined later as the card will be found to be stolen.
Your are then out of the merchandise and freight charges.
Been there, done that Glad you were not "had" by the scum of
the world. Also, most of these scams originate in Nigeria.
Jim Nelson
N15JN
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rv9jim(at)juno.com
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:49 am Post subject: Fraudulent Purchase attempt (Off Topic) |
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Rumen,
That is protection for the card holder. I, as the seller of the
material, have no recourse and loose the product and its value. Plus, my
scam artist wanted it sent to "out of the country location".
Jim Nelson
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cjensen(at)dts9000.com
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:01 am Post subject: Fraudulent Purchase attempt (Off Topic) |
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Unfortunately, your understanding is incorrect. The Credit Card Company has 60-90 days to backcharge your account if the recipient of the charge (cardholder) contests the charge--which they most certainly will if the card or card information has been stolen. A credit card charge is not like a Certified Check (and even those have to be looked at with a jaundiced eye). In short, the CCC protect the cardholder with maximum exposure of $50, but the merchant is pretty much at full risk for 90 days. With all the scams and flim-flams, about the only sure method of payment, if you don't know or trust the other party, is cash-in-hand.
Chuck
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trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:38 am Post subject: Fraudulent Purchase attempt (Off Topic) |
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With all the scams and flim-flams, about the only sure method of
| Quote: | payment, if you don't know or trust the other party, is cash-in-hand.
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Even that one is not 100% safe.... So may crooks printing green notes 
Carlos
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Eric M. Jones
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:36 am Post subject: Re: Fraudulent Purchase attempt (Off Topic) |
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And let's not forget the Western Union payment to the consolidator. WU takes only cash in hand...no CCs or checks. That $230.00 would have come out of my pocket.
Eric
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