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greghale
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I don't know if this has been addressed before, but does anyone know what I need to do to be able to listen to the DVD, XM, audio player I am installing in my RV10 with headphones? There is no headphone output jack on the player. It only has wires for speakers.
Thanks,
Greg Hale
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:46 pm Post subject: Car Radio output to headphones |
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how about if you connected it to the aux port in your audio panel? aka you
would use "aux" to listen to the DVD/XM music.
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I don't know if this has been addressed before, but does anyone know what
I need to do to be able to listen to the DVD, XM, audio player I am
installing in my RV10 with headphones? There is no headphone output jack
on the player. It only has wires for speakers.
Thanks,
Greg Hale
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scottmschmidt(at)yahoo.co
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:04 pm Post subject: Car Radio output to headphones |
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You will need to wire the output of the radio into your intercom and then most likely put all the inputs into your stereo.
Which intercom and stereo are you using first and I bet we can look up the intercom wiring online as well as the stereo system you are using.
I have a DVD/CD, XM radio, iPod all fed into my Pioneer stereo then to my PS Engineering intercom and it works great.
My stereo accepts the inputs and then outputs to the intercom through two wires.
On the PS Engineering intercom I have is a "karaoke" mode that allows the music to keep playing even though I am talking or someone is talking to me. This is done through the MUTE button.
It shuts off if I pull the mic on.
It makes it really nice. I'm not sure if you can do that with the Garmin stuff. I do know that on new planes with the G1000 or Avidyne anytime anyone talks in the plane or radio it mutes the radio and then takes a second to come back on. People who fly with these systems and then fly with me just love the fact that the music keep playing in the background while I listen to radio calls.
Scott Schmidtscottmschmidt(at)yahoo.com
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: Car Radio output to headphones |
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No kidding, Karaoke mode is awesome! It's the one time the
world can stand to have me yelling out to my favorite tunes...
when I'm 10,000' above the land and have a loud engine
that keeps anyone from hearing me. 
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Scott Schmidt wrote:
[quote] You will need to wire the output of the radio into your intercom and
then most likely put all the inputs into your stereo.
Which intercom and stereo are you using first and I bet we can look up
the intercom wiring online as well as the stereo system you are using.
I have a DVD/CD, XM radio, iPod all fed into my Pioneer stereo then to
my PS Engineering intercom and it works great.
My stereo accepts the inputs and then outputs to the intercom through
two wires.
On the PS Engineering intercom I have is a "karaoke" mode that allows
the music to keep playing even though I am talking or someone is talking
to me. This is done through the MUTE button.
It shuts off if I pull the mic on.
It makes it really nice. I'm not sure if you can do that with the
Garmin stuff. I do know that on new planes with the G1000 or Avidyne
anytime anyone talks in the plane or radio it mutes the radio and then
takes a second to come back on. People who fly with these systems and
then fly with me just love the fact that the music keep playing in the
background while I listen to radio calls.
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt(at)yahoo.com
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greghale
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: Car Radio output to headphones |
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I am using Garmin's audio panel for my intercom. The stereo I have is the Valor ITS-720W Mobile Multi-Media System. Everything DVD, XM radio control, IPOD input plug, FM radio are all installed in the unit. The output of the system is eight wires. Two for each front speaker and two for each back speakers. There is no two single wires for the audio panel. The system has a 35w x 4 amplifier with 4.1 channel surround output. My concern is blowing the audio panel with that much power. I was hoping to just provide a jack in the panel for my LightSpeed headset to plug into. The LightSpeed headsets allows me to listen to one thing and my wife listen to another by plugging a separate device into the other headset box.
Greg...
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject: Car Radio output to headphones |
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You cannot plug any low power device like headphones or an audio panel directly into high power outputs like speaker feeds. They will blow the headphones or audio panel in short order. There are devices out there that will take a high level speaker feed and give you low level outputs but you will eventually toast the amplifier without it connected to speakers to use some of the power up. Without the amp you will have nothing. It seems odd that something with all that capability doesn't have low level out on it but if that's truly the case you are better off selling it on eBay or returning it for something that has low level out's.
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greghale
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: Car Radio output to headphones |
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Sorry about my typing. It is the Valor 702W.
Greg...
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:18 am Post subject: Car Radio output to headphones |
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Leave the speaker connector disconnected and use the line-out front
L/R. Connect those to the stereo input on your intercom and then set
the Valor's fade to front speakers only. That's what I did for mine and
it seems to work fine.
PJ Seipel
RV-10 #40032
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:45 am Post subject: Car Radio output to headphones |
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That idea seems that it should work ok, but I have a
question about that. They have line out for the subwoofer.
Won't you lose all the low low's if you just take the
Front L/R? It seems like they're missing one simple
wire connection.....plain old Line-out audio.
It may be that to really get all the sound quality you'd
want, you would have to add another intermediate device
to mix those signals back together.
I don't know the answer, but I do know that like others
said, you definitely don't want to tie the speaker
outputs to the audio panel. You also won't need to
use the remote amp for this whole system.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:35 am Post subject: Car Radio output to headphones |
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[b][/b]That should work just fine and that is how I have mine hooked up as well.
Like others have mentioned, not sure if you can mix the bass into the output as well. You may want to call the Garmin or PS Engineering guys that question.
Here is something I found on the PS Engineering website.
Like it mentions, if you don't have the low level output and only speaker outputs, you can buy the PL2 I have linked below.
So, what song will played first after or during that first flight?
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[b] Can I use my 200W AIWA Car Stereo?[/b]
[b]Sure. Just don't hook the speaker output directly to the intercom. It will fail.[/b]
[b]The PS Engineering intercoms are designed to accept a low-level ( less than 3 V P-P) audio signal, like the ones provided by portable devises. Car stereo headphone amplifiers are not referenced to ground, and our intercoms are, so the moment power is turned on, the output amplifier will try its darndest to find ground, even if it has to let the smoke out of components.[/b]
[b]We recommend using a "Line Level" output from the car stereo. This is the one usually used for power amplifiers, equalizers and other add-ons. Again, the signals on this line vary widely between the brands and model.[/b]
[b]IF your automotive stereo does not have a "line out" there is an adapter available from Crutchfield . Called the PowerLinkII (PL2) this connects between the stereo and the intercom. It provides the proper levels and can be adjusted to suit your needs. [/b][b]Naturally, the ideal solution is our PCD7100, which is FAA-approved and designed to work in airplanes.[/b]
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-K9I5Jr0Z26g/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?I=101pl2&search=PL2
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:40 am Post subject: Car Radio output to headphones |
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You can disable it in set of hardware(Radio)
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greghale
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:44 am Post subject: Re: Car Radio output to headphones |
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You know sometimes you can stare at something and still not get it until someone else points it out to you. LINE OUT!!--Duh. You guys are the greatest and it is times like this that make the forum great! Scott I am not sure about the exact first song, but I'm sure I GET AROUND by the The Beach Boys will be at the top of the list. Thanks again everyone for your input. Hopefully I will finally be done by early next year and be at Oshkosh to meet all of you.
Greg...
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seipel(at)seznam.cz
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:33 am Post subject: Car Radio output to headphones |
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Tim,
On mine, unless you select in the radio's menu to have the bass go to
the subwoofer then there won't be anything output on that line and the
bass goes to the regular speakers. At least on my radio that connection
is optional. But it may very well depend on the brand of radio you have.
PJ Seipel
RV-10 #40032
Tim Olson wrote:
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That idea seems that it should work ok, but I have a
question about that. They have line out for the subwoofer.
Won't you lose all the low low's if you just take the
Front L/R? It seems like they're missing one simple
wire connection.....plain old Line-out audio.
It may be that to really get all the sound quality you'd
want, you would have to add another intermediate device
to mix those signals back together.
I don't know the answer, but I do know that like others
said, you definitely don't want to tie the speaker
outputs to the audio panel. You also won't need to
use the remote amp for this whole system.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
PJ Seipel wrote:
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> Leave the speaker connector disconnected and use the line-out front
> L/R. Connect those to the stereo input on your intercom and then set
> the Valor's fade to front speakers only. That's what I did for mine
> and it seems to work fine.
>
> PJ Seipel
> RV-10 #40032
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> greghale wrote:
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>> I found the wiring diagram for the Valor 702W. Any ideas on what I
>> can do or use?
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>> http://www.valordvd.com/FileForDownload/InstallingGuide/ITS-702WInstallingGuide.pdf
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>> I really appreciate the comments and help.
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>> Greg...
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>> Greg Hale rv8/rv10
>> www.nwacaptain.com
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=198313#198313
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:49 am Post subject: Car Radio output to headphones |
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That's cool....way easier to do that then have to mess
with wiring to do that.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
PJ Seipel wrote:
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Tim,
On mine, unless you select in the radio's menu to have the bass go to
the subwoofer then there won't be anything output on that line and the
bass goes to the regular speakers. At least on my radio that connection
is optional. But it may very well depend on the brand of radio you have.
PJ Seipel
RV-10 #40032
Tim Olson wrote:
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>
> That idea seems that it should work ok, but I have a
> question about that. They have line out for the subwoofer.
> Won't you lose all the low low's if you just take the
> Front L/R? It seems like they're missing one simple
> wire connection.....plain old Line-out audio.
>
> It may be that to really get all the sound quality you'd
> want, you would have to add another intermediate device
> to mix those signals back together.
>
> I don't know the answer, but I do know that like others
> said, you definitely don't want to tie the speaker
> outputs to the audio panel. You also won't need to
> use the remote amp for this whole system.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
> PJ Seipel wrote:
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>> Leave the speaker connector disconnected and use the line-out front
>> L/R. Connect those to the stereo input on your intercom and then set
>> the Valor's fade to front speakers only. That's what I did for mine
>> and it seems to work fine.
>>
>> PJ Seipel
>> RV-10 #40032
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>> greghale wrote:
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>>> I found the wiring diagram for the Valor 702W. Any ideas on what I
>>> can do or use?
>>>
>>> http://www.valordvd.com/FileForDownload/InstallingGuide/ITS-702WInstallingGuide.pdf
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>>>
>>> I really appreciate the comments and help.
>>>
>>> Greg...
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>>> --------
>>> Greg Hale rv8/rv10
>>> www.nwacaptain.com
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>>> Read this topic online here:
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>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=198313#198313
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:34 pm Post subject: Car Radio output to headphones |
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If you could somehow hook up the bass line to the prop governor so the
engine provides the bass on beat, that would be a pretty tricked-out
ride!
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On Aug 13, 2008, at 3:49 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
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That's cool....way easier to do that then have to mess
with wiring to do that.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
PJ Seipel wrote:
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> Tim,
> On mine, unless you select in the radio's menu to have the bass go
> to the subwoofer then there won't be anything output on that line
> and the bass goes to the regular speakers. At least on my radio
> that connection is optional. But it may very well depend on the
> brand of radio you have.
> PJ Seipel
> RV-10 #40032
> Tim Olson wrote:
>>
>>
>> That idea seems that it should work ok, but I have a
>> question about that. They have line out for the subwoofer.
>> Won't you lose all the low low's if you just take the
>> Front L/R? It seems like they're missing one simple
>> wire connection.....plain old Line-out audio.
>>
>> It may be that to really get all the sound quality you'd
>> want, you would have to add another intermediate device
>> to mix those signals back together.
>>
>> I don't know the answer, but I do know that like others
>> said, you definitely don't want to tie the speaker
>> outputs to the audio panel. You also won't need to
>> use the remote amp for this whole system.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> PJ Seipel wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Leave the speaker connector disconnected and use the line-out
>>> front L/R. Connect those to the stereo input on your intercom
>>> and then set the Valor's fade to front speakers only. That's
>>> what I did for mine and it seems to work fine.
>>>
>>> PJ Seipel
>>> RV-10 #40032
>>>
>>> greghale wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I found the wiring diagram for the Valor 702W. Any ideas on
>>>> what I can do or use?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.valordvd.com/FileForDownload/InstallingGuide/ITS-702WInstallingGuide.pdf
>>>>
>>>> I really appreciate the comments and help.
>>>>
>>>> Greg...
>>>>
>>>> --------
>>>> Greg Hale rv8/rv10
>>>> www.nwacaptain.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
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>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=198313#198313
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