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yakjock(at)gmail.com
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 Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:41 am Post subject: How to F@#% Up a Good Thing! |
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Guys and Gals,
This list, and the RPA, and our flying together, work because we are all committed to our common enjoyment of our airplanes, our flying and our being together. Like a smooth engine it runs because it is lubricated by our mutual courtesy of voluntarily - and deliberately - keeping the acidic and corrosive aspects of life out of the conversation.
In part this means to me that:
We choose not to call each other names that are meant to diminish or hurt.
We choose not to deride each other for our choice of airplane, where we live, how we fly or what oil - or additives - we use or don't use.
We choose to respect each other's ancestry and country.
And, we choose not to add the acid of religious beliefs or political views into the conversation.
Vote for and contribute to whomever you wish; Believe in and pray to whatever or whomever you wish; Love and/or have sex with whomever or whatever you wish and will have you; Be a carnivore, a vegan or a synthetic food eater; Believe that the world is flat, round or a grain of sand on a turtle's back; Believe that the government and wall street are here to help you - or not; Believe that Elvis is dead or alive.
Believe and do what you want, but do it somewhere else! Because - if you do it here - know clearly and perfectly well that you are taking a cheap, sneak shot intended to push other people's buttons when they are playing nice with each other and not out looking for a fight. In my view it is the person taking the cheap shot that should be roundly condemned by everyone else on the list who thinks that this community has value.
One of the reasons we get together is because nobody knows the whole story. With planes, engines and flying we can each contribute a bit to an open conversation. That's rare these days. I for one want to keep it running.
Hal
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Dabear(at)damned.org
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:22 am Post subject: How to F@#% Up a Good Thing! |
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Nicely stated!!!!
DaBear
tired of being insulted just because i'm a carnivore.
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ByronMFox(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:23 am Post subject: How to F@#% Up a Good Thing! |
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Thanks, Hal. Sound reminder. Fortunately, most provocateurs grow bored when we fail to rise to their bait and go away. ...Blitz
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steve.fox(at)mac.com
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:49 am Post subject: How to F@#% Up a Good Thing! |
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Hal,
The much younger Fox would like to add his thanks as well.
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mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:09 pm Post subject: How to F@#% Up a Good Thing! |
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Hal, wonderful words of wisdom.
But.............................
What I believe is more important than trying to control what people say,
is to ask the readers why in the world it should matter to them what
anyway else says to begin with?
Advice I have failed to follow myself now and then by the way, but I do
keep trying!
You see when it comes right down to it, there is an amazing range of
things that, if said, can manage to make one person or another angry.
For example, my refusal to give an inch on the issue of wearing Flight
Suits and Parachutes while flying in formation. A lot of people got
very sick and tired of that tirade and they had every right to.
Personally, I get rather tired of RPA members confusing the YAKLIST as
their alternative meeting place and acting like the whole purpose of
this list is to support their functions, advertise their events, and pat
each other on the back for their 'accomplishments'. Others, I am sure,
consider this valuable information. Keep in mind that I have met a few
RPA members and think them a good group of people.
Regardless, many readers of this list come from all over the world and
they come here primarily for technical or other help in keeping their
aircraft flying, to them, much of what we say is pure drivel and
maddening to boot!
In the end there is an old saying in the U.S. military that comes to
mind that I will paraphrase. It goes something like this: "I may
disagree totally with what you are saying, but I will defend with my
life the right for you to say it."
Let's learn to accept the differences between ourselves without anger.
If that fails, then proper peer pressure will usually win out. I think
this a far better solution than hinting around what we should or should
not talk about, although I understand your intentions and honor them as
they were meant.
Mark Bitterlich
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vectorwarbirds(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:21 pm Post subject: How to F@#% Up a Good Thing! |
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Here here! Thanks Hal, I too am tired of being looked down on just because I happen to like sheep.
Bunndini
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JOE HOWSE
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:34 am Post subject: How to F@#% Up a Good Thing! |
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Good for you Hal,
Joe
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:11 am Post subject: How to F@#% Up a Good Thing! |
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Amen, Batman....
In a message dated 8/13/2008 8:42:04 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, yakjock(at)gmail.com writes:
| Quote: | Guys and Gals,
This list, and the RPA, and our flying together, work because we are all committed to our common enjoyment of our airplanes, our flying and our being together. Like a smooth engine it runs because it is lubricated by our mutual courtesy of voluntarily - and deliberately - keeping the acidic and corrosive aspects of life out of the conversation.
In part this means to me that:
We choose not to call each other names that are meant to diminish or hurt.
We choose not to deride each other for our choice of airplane, where we live, how we fly or what oil - or additives - we use or don't use.
We choose to respect each other's ancestry and country.
And, we choose not to add the acid of religious beliefs or political views into the conversation.
Vote for and contribute to whomever you wish; Believe in and pray to whatever or whomever you wish; Love and/or have sex with whomever or whatever you wish and will have you; Be a carnivore, a vegan or a synthetic food eater; Believe that the world is flat, round or a grain of sand on a turtle's back; Believe that the government and wall street are here to help you - or not; Believe that Elvis is dead or alive.
Believe and do what you want, but do it somewhere else! Because - if you do it here - know clearly and perfectly well that you are taking a cheap, sneak shot intended to push other people's buttons when they are playing nice with each other and not out looking for a fight. In my view it is the person taking the cheap shot that should be roundly condemned by everyone else on the list who thinks that this community has value.
One of the reasons we get together is because nobody knows the whole story. With planes, engines and flying we can each contribute a bit to an open conversation. That's rare these days. I for one want to keep it running.
Hal
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