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fencline

Joined: 11 Aug 2008
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Location: SE Pennsylvania

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:30 pm Post subject: Kolbra Owners?

I am considering  buying a Kolbra or MarkIII. Have been flying my 1950 Pacer for last 10 years and it is time to do something different. I have always liked the Kolb design and think that is the direction I would like to go. I like tandem seating, hence the Kolbra. The only thing I remember not liking about the MarkIII was the control stick between the passenger and the pilot. Has anyone done a design with the control between the legs? Anyone else here gone from certificated aircraft to these lighter aircraft. Thoughts? I would really like to fly in whatever I am going to buy before purchasing. I contacted Kolb via e-mail with several questions. The reply was prompt but did little to answer questions. Was told to come to homecoming in September and I could get a flight but they weren't sure if there would be a Kolbra there or not. I will try the direct call method and see if I have better luck that way.

  Are there any other discussion boards out there. Other links to information? 

  Thanks in advance for any info. you can provide,

  Andy

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Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:12 am Post subject: Kolbra Owners?

"fencline" wrote: << I am considering  buying a Kolbra or MarkIII. ...

The only thing I remember not liking about the MarkIII was the control

stick between the passenger and the pilot. Has anyone done a design with

the control between the legs? >>



Andy -



I built my Mark-III Classic with the single central control stick.  Like

you, I was somewhat apprehensive about that setup because it was not

exactly conventional.  My only control stick experience was in Cubs and

Champs, which are very conventional stick-between-your-legs airplanes.

But in the 5 years I've been flying my Kolb, I've come to really

appreciate the position of the stick.  It falls very comfortably to the

reach of your right hand, just outboard of the right knee, and it

provides the full range of unobstructed side-to-side movement.  The

armrest between the seats is in the perfect position to support your arm

while flying, making it quite comfortable.  I like it.



But, if you want the conventional dual stick setup, New Kolb offers that

as an option.



<< Anyone else here gone from certificated aircraft to these lighter

aircraft. Thoughts? Andy >>



I hold a Private Pilot's license, but let my medical expire a couple of

years ago when the new Sport Pilot rule came out.  Been flying my Kolb

as Sport Pilot ever since.  Doesn't affect me much, as all my flying is

recreational, and I don't feel as though I've lost any privileges or

freedoms under Sport Pilot.  I'm glad I can do my own maintenance and

annuals - keeps the cost of my hobby reasonable.



Dennis Kirby

Mark-III, 912ul in

Cedar Crest, NM

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NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:50 am Post subject: Kolbra Owners?

Andy



I also have a MKIIIC and came from general aviation. These planes have a 

light wing loading that will get bounced around in thermals. They also have 

very little mass combined with a fair amount of drag that will catch people 

with GA experience off guard when you flair for landing, They slow down VERY 

quickly. Every thing else is very positive. The visibility is so wonderful 

you will never go back to GA.



As for the center stick it has become very natural to me to fly with it. The 

only down side is trying to fold maps on a cross country. It sure would be 

nice to clamp that stick between my legs so I could use two hands from time 

to time. I have watched people get in and out of the dual stick MKIII and it 

is a chore but I'm sure you would get used to that also.



Also if you want to save yourself a bunch of money you can order the VW 

mount and put a redrive VW on a MKIII C or X. It is too wide a mount for the 

Kolbra.



Rick Neilsen

Redrive VW powered MKIIIC



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ulflyer(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:52 pm Post subject: Kolbra Owners?

Why not install a poor mans auto pilot - a light bungee cord 

(1/8-3/16" dia. cloth cover elastic bungee cord) with a half hitch 

looped around the stick.  Position the bungee so it crosses the stick 

so it holds it in it's near neutral in flight position.  You can move 

the loop right or left to adjust wing level - if it at a slight 

diagonal you can use it to adjust slight amount of stick forward or 

stick back pressure.  We had one on the FireFly worked great.

jerb



At 11:50 AM 8/20/2008, you wrote:

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<NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net>



Andy



I also have a MKIIIC and came from general aviation. These planes 

have a light wing loading that will get bounced around in thermals. 

They also have very little mass combined with a fair amount of drag 

that will catch people with GA experience off guard when you flair 

for landing, They slow down VERY quickly. Every thing else is very 

positive. The visibility is so wonderful you will never go back to GA.



As for the center stick it has become very natural to me to fly with 

it. The only down side is trying to fold maps on a cross country. It 

sure would be nice to clamp that stick between my legs so I could 

use two hands from time to time. I have watched people get in and 

out of the dual stick MKIII and it is a chore but I'm sure you would 

get used to that also.



Also if you want to save yourself a bunch of money you can order the 

VW mount and put a redrive VW on a MKIII C or X. It is too wide a 

mount for the Kolbra.



Rick Neilsen

Redrive VW powered MKIIIC



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NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:50 am Post subject: Kolbra Owners?

Jerb



Thanks. A variation of that might just work.



Rick Neilsen

Redrive VW powered MKIIIC



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customersupport(at)tnkolb
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:33 am Post subject: Kolbra Owners?

DENNIS, THE MARK 3  HAS A DUEL CONTROL OPTION .  DONNIE.

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